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Post by followyoudown on Apr 28, 2021 18:25:27 GMT
Look as far as I am concerned everyone is free to do whatever they want with whoever they want if its legal but this stuff really is beyond a joke a woman sacked over this.....
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 28, 2021 19:06:07 GMT
Biology states 2 key points
If you have a penis you're a male. If you have a vagina you're a female.
And thats how i see the world.
People really need to get a grip ffs.
Pandering to some 'look at me idiots' who identify as non binary one day, gender neutral the next day, a giraffe the next day, a scotch egg the next, when will it end.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 28, 2021 19:30:35 GMT
I saw this nonsense a few weeks ago www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/03/19/bournemouth-council-may-scrap-mr-and-mrs-titles-for-all-residents-14270107/amp/If people want to swap their traditional Mr, Mrs or Miss title in favour of something neutral then surely the more sensible solution would be for them to write to the council and request it, just as they would if they were changing their title to Dr, Prof or Rev. But potentially changing everyone's title to suit a tiny minority is the tail wagging the dog? If my local council ever adopted such a policy and addressed me as Mx the letter will be getting returned with 'No one of that name at this address' written on the envelope 😄
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Post by Boothen on Apr 28, 2021 19:34:11 GMT
Clown world. Honk honk.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2021 19:47:18 GMT
This was bound to happen eventually. What you have now is effectively the radical feminists and the trans-lobby at war with each other. Ultimately, while they both call themselves feminists, their core principals are directly at odds with each other. Radical feminists believe that men are men, women are women and all men are violent misogynists who kick the shit out of women. Trans feminists believe that all men are kicking the shit out of women as well, but if you identify as a female and call yourself a feminist too, then technically you're not part of the problem. Those two mentalities cannot co-exist within that weirdly structured part of the world.
Popcorn at the ready.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 28, 2021 19:50:31 GMT
Look at me, look at me, look at me🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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Post by thevoid on Apr 28, 2021 20:04:30 GMT
This was bound to happen eventually. What you have now is effectively the radical feminists and the trans-lobby at war with each other. Ultimately, while they both call themselves feminists, their core principals are directly at odds with each other. Radical feminists believe that men are men, women are women and all men are violent misogynists who kick the shit out of women. Trans feminists believe that all men are kicking the shit out of women as well, but if you identify as a female and call yourself a feminist too, then technically you're not part of the problem. Those two mentalities cannot co-exist within that weirdly structured part of the world. Popcorn at the ready. The Oscar acceptance speeches were something else this year. They elevated box ticking into an art form. It was almost as memorable as Jasper Carrott's routine about car insurance claim forms.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 28, 2021 20:10:02 GMT
This was bound to happen eventually. What you have now is effectively the radical feminists and the trans-lobby at war with each other. Ultimately, while they both call themselves feminists, their core principals are directly at odds with each other. Radical feminists believe that men are men, women are women and all men are violent misogynists who kick the shit out of women. Trans feminists believe that all men are kicking the shit out of women as well, but if you identify as a female and call yourself a feminist too, then technically you're not part of the problem. Those two mentalities cannot co-exist within that weirdly structured part of the world. Popcorn at the ready. The Oscar acceptance speeches were something else this year. They elevated box ticking into an art form. It was almost as memorable as Jasper Carrott's routine about car insurance claim forms. Haven't watched the oscars in years, but i can imagine they were a barrel of fucking laughs tbh.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 28, 2021 20:14:56 GMT
The Oscar acceptance speeches were something else this year. They elevated box ticking into an art form. It was almost as memorable as Jasper Carrott's routine about car insurance claim forms. Haven't watched the oscars in years, but i can imagine they were a barrel of fucking laughs tbh. Oh I didn't watch but it appeared on my news feed due to one of my interests being film. Cringe-a-rama.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 28, 2021 20:30:46 GMT
The world is a fucking cesspit.
He’s got a tallywhacker and more facial hair than I’ve got pubes, it’s a fucking bloke fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 21:10:46 GMT
The Oscar acceptance speeches were something else this year. They elevated box ticking into an art form. It was almost as memorable as Jasper Carrott's routine about car insurance claim forms. Haven't watched the oscars in years, but i can imagine they were a barrel of fucking laughs tbh. Used to be great films won Oscars, now is about content etc After #Bohemian Rhapsody' won was time to finally put them to bed. Was like a bad , made for TV film
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Post by lagwafis on Apr 28, 2021 21:12:58 GMT
Haven't watched the oscars in years, but i can imagine they were a barrel of fucking laughs tbh. Oh I didn't watch but it appeared on my news feed due to one of my interests being film. Cringe-a-rama. 1) Hold your event at Union Station, just north of Skid Row 2) 'Ask' the local homeless poulation to stay away from the venue3) Go on stage, preach about 'equality' while handing out £225k giftbags to multimillionaire nominees
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Post by riverman on Apr 29, 2021 8:30:09 GMT
I often wonder why, if they want to be referred to in the plural, they always refer to themselves in the singular. Can't have it both ways.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 29, 2021 8:43:23 GMT
I often wonder why, if they want to be referred to in the plural, they always refer to themselves in the singular. Can't have it both ways. They will demand that they do.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 29, 2021 9:30:29 GMT
The world is a fucking cesspit. He’s got a tallywhacker and more facial hair than I’ve got pubes, it’s a fucking bloke fuck off. I've decided to identify as a millonaire and if my card declines when I'm buying my new Rolex I'll be sueing both the jewellers and the bank due to the upset caused.
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Post by franklin on Apr 29, 2021 11:03:12 GMT
Things like this just deflect attention from real issues while people are fighting over garbage like this real criminals are laughing. I really dont care what anyone may call themselves because I know most of the time what they are. I'm slightly old fashioned a blokes a bloke and a woman is a woman that's it.
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Post by sd22 on Apr 29, 2021 11:29:35 GMT
I get males who want to be females. I get females who want to be males. I get cross dressers I get people being ‘pre/post’ op
But to be neither, to spit your dummy out because you’ve been called a gender specific pronoun. Please can you do us all a favour, and fuck off?
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Post by Goonie on Apr 29, 2021 19:22:19 GMT
Although I respect anyone's right to define their identity I cannot help be influenced by this:
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Post by Goonie on Apr 29, 2021 19:23:19 GMT
I get males who want to be females. I get females who want to be males. I get cross dressers I get people being ‘pre/post’ op But to be neither, to spit your dummy out because you’ve been called a gender specific pronoun. Please can you do us all a favour, and fuck off? By 'get' do you mean understand or acquire? We should be told!
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Post by Goonie on Apr 29, 2021 19:29:12 GMT
I fully understand the world is an just place for people of colour, ethnic minorities, sexualities, identities, disabilities it all feels a bit like they're trying to say their 'struggle' equates to that of the suffragettes, the black power struggles of the 60s and 70s and the Stonewall of the 60s, AIDS of the 80s whereas, please feel free to correct if I am way off beam,the modern era seems the best time to be alive(in the UK at least) for anyone who is non-male, white and straight.
Or am I deluded?
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Post by Boothen on Apr 29, 2021 19:57:18 GMT
By 'get' do you mean understand or acquire? We should be told! Friend of mine used to work in a coffee shop down London, she used to take great pleasure in confusing American tourists by refusing to allow them to 'get a coffee'. She always insisted on getting it for them, as customers weren't allowed behind the counter let alone allowed to mess with the machines.
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Post by sd22 on Apr 29, 2021 20:02:40 GMT
I get males who want to be females. I get females who want to be males. I get cross dressers I get people being ‘pre/post’ op But to be neither, to spit your dummy out because you’ve been called a gender specific pronoun. Please can you do us all a favour, and fuck off? By 'get' do you mean understand or acquire? We should be told! I understand! I definitely don’t acquire!
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 30, 2021 0:14:01 GMT
Although I respect anyone's right to define their identity I cannot help be influenced by this: How incredibly prescient that turned out to be. Cleese is regularly great on these topics on Twitter even now
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2021 7:21:47 GMT
That asteroid cant come soon enough...
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Post by thevoid on May 13, 2021 9:27:49 GMT
That asteroid cant come soon enough... Covid only affects males and females so if you're non-binary you should be risk free and won't require a mask 👍 The irony being that it would have taken far less of this daft melt's time and effort to listen to whatever message was being relayed than to type his 'look at me' Tweet 😄
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 13, 2021 9:31:07 GMT
Whether you agree with it all or not, you have to see the positives in the situation. If you'd asked teens what a pronoun was about 5 years ago, i bet most wouldn't have had a fucking clue what they were. It's helping knowledge of grammar,if nothing else.
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Post by sd22 on May 13, 2021 17:39:43 GMT
Whether you agree with it all or not, you have to see the positives in the situation. If you'd asked teens what a pronoun was about 5 years ago, i bet most wouldn't have had a fucking clue what they were. It's helping knowledge of grammar,if nothing else. I remember in high school, and being top of my Spanish class (I left in 2013 so not too long ago) trying to explain to friends about masculine and feminine article changes and the use of pronouns and their effect on the sentence as a whole was particularly painful. I’ve since picked Spanish back up over lockdown, and on the forum boards, a young man actually asked the question the other day. ‘What is a pronoun?’ Well chappy, if you wish to achieve fluency, you had better learn damn quick!!
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Post by PotterLog on May 13, 2021 18:34:19 GMT
Whether you agree with it all or not, you have to see the positives in the situation. If you'd asked teens what a pronoun was about 5 years ago, i bet most wouldn't have had a fucking clue what they were. It's helping knowledge of grammar,if nothing else. I remember in high school, and being top of my Spanish class (I left in 2013 so not too long ago) trying to explain to friends about masculine and feminine article changes and the use of pronouns and their effect on the sentence as a whole was particularly painful. I’ve since picked Spanish back up over lockdown, and on the forum boards, a young man actually asked the question the other day. ‘What is a pronoun?’ Well chappy, if you wish to achieve fluency, you had better learn damn quick!! Interesting you bring that up because there is now a concerted effort by diversity types in the Spanish-speaking world to "gender neutralise" the language, with "words" like estimad@s, vecines, niñas/os and todxs becoming quite commonplace. It's misguided and completely ridiculous for exactly the reason you mention - Spanish is grammatically such a deeply gendered language it's impossible and absurd to take gender out of it, it's like trying to take salt out of soup. Ironically native speakers of Spanish often don't really realise this because they just speak it naturally and have never had to actively study the language and notice something like that.
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Post by murphthesurf on May 13, 2021 19:21:24 GMT
I remember in high school, and being top of my Spanish class (I left in 2013 so not too long ago) trying to explain to Interesting you bring that up because there is now a concerted effort by diversity types in the Spanish-speaking world to "gender neutralise" the language, with "words" like estimad@s, vecines, niñas/os and todxs becoming quite commonplace. It's misguided and completely ridiculous for exactly the reason you mention - Spanish is grammatically such a deeply gendered language it's impossible and absurd to take gender out of it, it's like trying to take salt out of soup. Ironically native speakers of Spanish often don't really realise this because they just speak it naturally and have never had to actively study the language and notice something like that. Exactly the same thing is currently being suggested in France re. the French language & attempts made to gender-neutralise it, however the country's 'elder statesmen' (or words to that effect) have apparently said "NON!" Be that as it may, you can bet your life that if we had masculine & feminine gender-classed words/articles, etc., in the English language the PC/Woke Brigade would be all over them by now, howling and insisting that they be instantly abolished!
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Post by sd22 on May 13, 2021 19:21:35 GMT
I remember in high school, and being top of my Spanish class (I left in 2013 so not too long ago) trying to explain to friends about masculine and feminine article changes and the use of pronouns and their effect on the sentence as a whole was particularly painful. I’ve since picked Spanish back up over lockdown, and on the forum boards, a young man actually asked the question the other day. ‘What is a pronoun?’ Well chappy, if you wish to achieve fluency, you had better learn damn quick!! Interesting you bring that up because there is now a concerted effort by diversity types in the Spanish-speaking world to "gender neutralise" the language, with "words" like estimad@s, vecines, niñas/os and todxs becoming quite commonplace. It's misguided and completely ridiculous for exactly the reason you mention - Spanish is grammatically such a deeply gendered language it's impossible and absurd to take gender out of it, it's like trying to take salt out of soup. Ironically native speakers of Spanish often don't really realise this because they just speak it naturally and have never had to actively study the language and notice something like that. Not more for me to learn!! Haha! I rarely think about it myself, even as a learner, only thinking about it when talking about a person, like cansado or cansada. But I see many people asking why a table is a woman, it’s not, it’s just... a feminine article! I have seen an explanation that the categorisation of objects has nothing to do with gender but it’s just easier to be categorised as masculine or feminine to fall in line with when you are talking about a person, such as él or ella. I love the language, and somethings are actually easier to explain in Spanish I feel, just because of the speed of speech and simplification of sentences!
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