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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 23, 2021 18:41:54 GMT
The Internet.
The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things.
One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask.
Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line.
Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2021 19:38:38 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. But without it would I be talking to you? |
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Post by felonious on Apr 23, 2021 19:41:28 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. But without it would I be talking to you? Seymour without it I doubt anyone would be talking to him  |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 23, 2021 19:42:34 GMT
But without it would I be talking to you? Seymour without it I doubt anyone would be talking to him Brilliant You've hit a nerve there, Petulia |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 23, 2021 19:46:09 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. But without it would I be talking to you? True. And there are many advantages to this great technology. But I wonder if the online relationships are lacking something....or not. I believe that there may be a poster on here who tries to post under different usernames/ personas.....does it matter? |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2021 20:29:31 GMT
But without it would I be talking to you? True. And there are many advantages to this great technology. But I wonder if the online relationships are lacking something....or not. I believe that there may be a poster on here who tries to post under different usernames/ personas.....does it matter? Well I don't if that's what you were suggesting. If anyone else does - that's up to them - however I do think that many internet personas are false in a way you wouldn't get away with face to face. It's also quite reductive - twitter being even worse - everything becomes binary, one dimensional and summarised in 140 characters with everyone trying to win an arguement rather than looking to understand each other. It's also very difficult to understand someone in the round. Take you for example. If I just read the Brexit thread then I would consider that you and I would be so diametrically opposed that there would essentially be no point in talking to you. That could lead you to being completely dismissive of someome you don't know and have never met. Not good. However from other threads you clearly have a love of music and animals which is very much shared and I don't think our way of managing the technology is sufficiently nuanced to cope with that which means we focus more on the differences than the common ground. Just my view. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 23, 2021 20:45:29 GMT
True. And there are many advantages to this great technology. But I wonder if the online relationships are lacking something....or not. I believe that there may be a poster on here who tries to post under different usernames/ personas.....does it matter? Well I don't if that's what you were suggesting. If anyone else does - that's up to them - however I do think that many internet personas are false in a way you wouldn't get away with face to face. It's also quite reductive - twitter being even worse - everything becomes binary, one dimensional and summarised in 140 characters with everyone trying to win an arguement rather than looking to understand each other. It's also very difficult to understand someone in the round. Take you for example. If I just read the Brexit thread then I would consider that you and I would be so diametrically opposed that there would essentially be no point in talking to you. That could lead you to being completely dismissive of someome you don't know and have never met. Not good. However from other threads you clearly have a love of music and animals which is very much shared and I don't think our way of managing the technology is sufficiently nuanced to cope with that which means we focus more on the differences than the common ground. Just my view. I agree absolutely Seymour. In real life I have quite a few friends who are Remainers. The three friends who I see regularly are Remainers. We go out as a group of 4. Out next Tuesday. One is Polish by birth and ancestory so he has an individual perspective. Another born in Scotland, a Hearts supporter. Our conversations vary from the light hearted piss take to the serious discussion. But unlike on the Oatcake there seems to be an acceptance of Brexit and that " we" have just got to get on with it. |
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Post by foster on Apr 23, 2021 21:08:02 GMT
Well I don't if that's what you were suggesting. If anyone else does - that's up to them - however I do think that many internet personas are false in a way you wouldn't get away with face to face. It's also quite reductive - twitter being even worse - everything becomes binary, one dimensional and summarised in 140 characters with everyone trying to win an arguement rather than looking to understand each other. It's also very difficult to understand someone in the round. Take you for example. If I just read the Brexit thread then I would consider that you and I would be so diametrically opposed that there would essentially be no point in talking to you. That could lead you to being completely dismissive of someome you don't know and have never met. Not good. However from other threads you clearly have a love of music and animals which is very much shared and I don't think our way of managing the technology is sufficiently nuanced to cope with that which means we focus more on the differences than the common ground. Just my view. I agree absolutely Seymour. In real life I have quite a few friends who are Remainers. The three friends who I see regularly are Remainers. We go out as a group of 4. Out next Tuesday. One is Polish by birth and ancestory so he has an individual perspective. Another born in Scotland, a Hearts supporter. Our conversations vary from the light hearted piss take to the serious discussion. But unlike on the Oatcake there seems to be an acceptance of Brexit and that " we" have just got to get on with it. You mean 1 or max 2 people on here. Let it go. |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 23, 2021 21:09:23 GMT
I agree absolutely Seymour. In real life I have quite a few friends who are Remainers. The three friends who I see regularly are Remainers. We go out as a group of 4. Out next Tuesday. One is Polish by birth and ancestory so he has an individual perspective. Another born in Scotland, a Hearts supporter. Our conversations vary from the light hearted piss take to the serious discussion. But unlike on the Oatcake there seems to be an acceptance of Brexit and that " we" have just got to get on with it. You mean 1 or max 2 people on here. Let it go. You are correct, one or two people on here. We need to let it go. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 23, 2021 22:10:41 GMT
Was talking about this in the pub just over a few sherbets. My opinion was the way technology and communication channels peaked around ten years ago where there was a balance between good face to face communication and technology advancements making things easier, however now I think it’s gone the other way and is in a downward spiral of faceless non personality guff.
You only have to look at kids today or teenagers of your own to realise personality has all but left them(slight exaggeration perhaps).
At work we’ve taken on a fair few of the kickstart crew(the government initiative) and all of them without exception can’t hold a conversation for longer than a few seconds. I find it extremely worrying that this is what the younger generation are becoming.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Apr 24, 2021 23:45:31 GMT
I think it's more smart phones than anything. Gives a reason for not talking to people anymore. I, however am still keeping up the fine art of waiting. I don't need a smart phone to pass the time. I wait at the doctors, dentists, auto mechanics, etc. just like I did in the old days...sitting there and annoying people with small talk or moaning about this or that.
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Post by musik on Apr 25, 2021 1:47:54 GMT
I'm going analog this year.
Planning to buy a white wig, a mantle, a white ruffle shirt, patent leather shoes with large buckles, some feather pens and lots of ink and an inkwell, as well as thousands of parchment paper - at the central alley shop downtown.
An old original Ericsson analog phone with a winch, to get it started. I've laid my eyes on one at the antique store already.
Some nice paraffin lamps. I have this phenomenal boutique next door.
Train some carrier pigeons to know their routes. I have a female one already, I use to talk to.
Get rid of the tv, mobile and pc of course.
Use a washboard and a tub, instead of the laundry room.
Maybe even buy a horse, or at least one of those high old bicycles I saw last summer.
🦉
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Post by Orbs on Apr 25, 2021 5:23:23 GMT
I'm going analog this year. Planning to buy a white wig, a mantle, a white ruffle shirt, patent leather shoes with large buckles, some feather pens and lots of ink and an inkwell, as well as thousands of parchment paper - at the central alley shop downtown. An old original Ericsson analog phone with a winch, to get it started. I've laid my eyes on one at the antique store already. Some nice paraffin lamps. I have this phenomenal boutique next door. Train some carrier pigeons to know their routes. I have a female one already, I use to talk to. Get rid of the tv, mobile and pc of course. Use a washboard and a tub, instead of the laundry room. Maybe even buy a horse, or at least one of those high old bicycles I saw last summer. 🦉 POIDH |
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Post by farnborostokie63 on Apr 25, 2021 8:02:46 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. if your a regular at a bank they get to know you, so if sy an OAP who goes in regularly to withdraw small amounts suddenly withdraws a huge amount, possibly being coerced into it, they would ring the alarm bells and start asking questions. Well you would hope. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Apr 25, 2021 8:15:37 GMT
Unsurprisingly it's become another tool for the wealthy elite to control the narrative pushed to the plebs.
I quit Twitter during the general election campaign because of the amount of lies being pushed in people's faces. Some of it from actual MPs and ministers.
It's a huge threat to democracies the world over.
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 25, 2021 8:41:28 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. Over communicating with one another, this came to a head last weekend for me. Was invited with the missus for a beer round at an old friend we haven’t seen in yonks.... no problem. 20 minutes in and the missus and her friend are glued to their mobiles. I just got up without saying a word jumped in the car and drove home..... 20 minutes later I get a call “ where are you ?” “ I’m at home in the garden” “ I though you were on the toilet” came the reply A massive row ensued where I refused to pick her up and she walked home . What I expected to be a nice catch up and chat turned into a shit afternoon for her and a nice relaxing one for me We now have an agreement that the phones stay in the car in the glove box if we go round to someone’s for a coffee/afternoon |
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Post by musik on Apr 25, 2021 8:45:54 GMT
Naa ... 🤭 I was just kidding. It was a dream I had, and it wasn't a nightmare. But it would never had worked, would it?! 25 years ago it was no problem going analog. The only thing left for us to do in this country without any digital involvement from our side is to vote in the election for a new government. |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 25, 2021 9:25:04 GMT
It’s given us the ability to ridicule mock and debase people from afar with no consequences. It’s allowed people without evidence or knowledge to preach their rhetoric and “cancel” others. But it’s also allowed millions to keep there jobs in a crisis allowed families to communicate and stay in touch its truest a double edged sword
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Post by Goonie on Apr 26, 2021 5:56:48 GMT
Alan Watts predicted this late 60s early 70s
Fascinating listen. Though not a technologist or futurist, he was a spiritual teacher, he seems spot on in many ways
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 26, 2021 6:42:06 GMT
The Internet. The advent of the Internet and www has obviously changed the world in terms of communication and globalisation amongst many other things. One side effect I've become more aware of today.....how impersonal it has made many aspects of life. In the " olden days" we had to physically go into a bank, to bank. The tellers could get to know you, your family and develop a relationship just through everyday smalltalk. " How are you today? " How's your mum?" " Have you still got your dog?" etc etc. Nowadays know matter how long you have been with a particular bank, there is no personal rapport/ relationship. Why should there be, you might ask. Multiply this to include local shops etc., now done on line. Just an observation, perhaps it doesn't matter. But without it would I be talking to you? Send a stamped addressed envelope for a reply to find out. |
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Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 26, 2021 8:00:06 GMT
Alan Watts predicted this late 60s early 70s Fascinating listen. Though not a technologist or futurist, he was a spiritual teacher, he seems spot on in many ways 30 years ago I used to search for recordings of Watts. It was next to impossible. Now his take on life is just a click of a button away. I'm staggered how many young people are aware of him now. The technology has good and bad implications. Like everything else "accentuate the postive" - to quote the bard. |
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