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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 17, 2021 22:02:55 GMT
MON was always going to come good, that’s now being proven now he’s actually putting together a team of players he wants and isn’t saddled with the dregs that have sapped this club for years.
He performed a miracle even keeping us in this division, our squad was absolute dogshit.
Time to consign this to the excrement bin where it belongs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 22:03:58 GMT
Nice. The last thing I want my team to be is nice. Who mentioned about the team being nice? Certainly not me. I’m on about the football that is played.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 22:05:31 GMT
MON was always going to come good, that’s now being proven now he’s actually putting together a team of players he wants and isn’t saddled with the dregs that have sapped this club for years. He performed a miracle even keeping us in this division, our squad was absolute dogshit. Time to consign this to the excrement bin where it belongs. We had as good a team last season and he definitely chose not to go for it. Indeed with Campbell in I think it was probably a bit better and we still didn’t get anywhere close to this and didn’t try.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 17, 2021 22:08:49 GMT
There’s quite a few posters conspicuous by their absence tonight😄they know who they are as well I’m here!!
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2021 22:08:49 GMT
MON was always going to come good, that’s now being proven now he’s actually putting together a team of players he wants and isn’t saddled with the dregs that have sapped this club for years. He performed a miracle even keeping us in this division, our squad was absolute dogshit. Time to consign this to the excrement bin where it belongs. We had as good a team last season and he definitely chose not to go for it. Indeed with Campbell in I think it was probably a bit better and we still didn’t get anywhere close to this and didn’t try. Do you not think that a big part of the problem was all the shit we had clinging on? Don’t you acknowledge it could have had a negative affect on the dressing room? We’ve shifted those bad eggs out and now the team look a lot better. Not a coincidence IMO
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 22:10:55 GMT
Nice. The last thing I want my team to be is nice. Who mentioned about the team being nice? Certainly not me. I’m on about the football that is played. Nice is not a word that should be used to describe any aspect of a football team. Agressive. Pacy. Purposeful. Determined. Uncompromising. Versatile. Adaptable. Controlled. Not nice. Ever.
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 17, 2021 22:12:06 GMT
So many on here criticised some of us for suggesting MON was the second coming of Jesus Christ when he arrived
And I fucking knew he was
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 22:12:31 GMT
We had as good a team last season and he definitely chose not to go for it. Indeed with Campbell in I think it was probably a bit better and we still didn’t get anywhere close to this and didn’t try. Do you not think that a big part of the problem was all the shit we had clinging on? Don’t you acknowledge it could have had a negative affect on the dressing room? We’ve shifted those bad eggs out and now the team look a lot better. Not a coincidence IMO No. They were irrelevant. It doesn’t stop you trying to attack. And I think the dressing room was fine. The only issue seemed to be McKinlay.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 22:13:48 GMT
Who mentioned about the team being nice? Certainly not me. I’m on about the football that is played. Nice is not a word that should be used to describe any aspect of a football team. Agressive. Pacy. Purposeful. Determined. Uncompromising. Versatile. Adaptable. Controlled. Not nice. Ever. If you say so. I totally disagree. Football was played in the right way today 👍
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 17, 2021 22:14:43 GMT
MON was always going to come good, that’s now being proven now he’s actually putting together a team of players he wants and isn’t saddled with the dregs that have sapped this club for years. He performed a miracle even keeping us in this division, our squad was absolute dogshit. Time to consign this to the excrement bin where it belongs. We had as good a team last season and he definitely chose not to go for it. Indeed with Campbell in I think it was probably a bit better and we still didn’t get anywhere close to this and didn’t try. Nah I think this team pisses over last seasons, last seasons had Batth & Chester at the back and Headless Joe doing his usual act of being in 17 different positions other than the one he’s meant to be in. Also think there was too much poison around the club, there’s no doubt this appears to be a much happier squad, I feel like MON’s thought process was steady the ship enough to see the season out then the purge can start, wasn’t pretty but it seems to be paying off so far at least.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 17, 2021 22:17:30 GMT
What it does show is how much injuries can make or break a manager.
If as happened last season you lose key players for long periods results won’t be as good.
If he has a fit squad MON will do well.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 17, 2021 22:17:55 GMT
Do you not think that a big part of the problem was all the shit we had clinging on? Don’t you acknowledge it could have had a negative affect on the dressing room? We’ve shifted those bad eggs out and now the team look a lot better. Not a coincidence IMO No. They were irrelevant. It doesn’t stop you trying to attack. And I think the dressing room was fine. The only issue seemed to be McKinlay. I don't think the appointment of Holden replacing McKinlay should be overlooked.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 22:18:14 GMT
So many on here criticised some of us for suggesting MON was the second coming of Jesus Christ when he arrived And I fucking knew he was BRIAN: Are you the O’Neill People's Front? REG: Fuck off! BRIAN: What? REG: O’Neill People's Front. We're the People's Front of O’Neill! O’Neill People's Front. Cawk. FRANCIS: Wankers. BRIAN: Can I... join your group? REG: No. Piss off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 22:18:26 GMT
We had as good a team last season and he definitely chose not to go for it. Indeed with Campbell in I think it was probably a bit better and we still didn’t get anywhere close to this and didn’t try. Nah I think this team pisses over last seasons, last seasons had Batth & Chester at the back and Headless Joe doing his usual act of being in 17 different positions other than the one he’s meant to be in. Also think there was too much poison around the club, there’s no doubt this appears to be a much happier squad, I feel like MON’s thought process was steady the ship enough to see the season out then the purge can start, wasn’t pretty but it seems to be paying off so far at least. Allen has been doing that this season bar tonight 😂 And Chester was a lot better (for him) last season. But the back 3 is different class agreed. But I’d have Mikel or Cousins in this midfield over Allen tbh. I don’t think the poison was an issue tbh. The squad always seemed to be ok in the spirits stake. And even the ones we hate seem liked by the players. And Etebo and Badou who are the two I think would affect that haven’t been at the club for 18 months.
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Post by ethers26 on Aug 17, 2021 22:23:25 GMT
So many on here criticised some of us for suggesting MON was the second coming of Jesus Christ when he arrived And I fucking knew he was BRIAN: Are you the O’Neill People's Front? REG: Fuck off! BRIAN: What? REG: O’Neill People's Front. We're the People's Front of O’Neill! O’Neill People's Front. Cawk. FRANCIS: Wankers. BRIAN: Can I... join your group? REG: No. Piss off. MON to PC: Hello, Peter. Pete: Don't you "hello Peter" me! What're all those people doing out there? C'mon, what've you been up to, my lad? MON: I think they must've popped by, or something. Pete: Popped by? Swarmed by, more like! There's a multitude out there!
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Post by mcw on Aug 17, 2021 22:29:05 GMT
Now Bayern is finally showing some optimism for once we should embrace this and use the carrot instead of the stick🤣! It’s been obvious to me that MON knows what he is doing and is building a team not a bunch of individuals. The sum of the parts is greater than the individual pieces and whilst I don’t think last year’s squad was devoid of character and spirit they just weren’t what he wanted to field. Over the last 18 months he’s performed a minor miracle taking a squad of highly paid mercenaries shorn of confidence, keeping us up and then managing to shed a huge amount to of deadwood 12 months before I envisaged. At the end of last season I would have been happy enough with another mid table finish on the proviso I expected us to still be lumbered with some shit we couldn’t shift. As it now stands I think a solid top 10 season is on the cards with the possibility of better dependent on the final 2 weeks of the transfer window. Happy days!
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Post by potterburt on Aug 17, 2021 22:29:20 GMT
43 pages of mainly posters just laying into a manager that’s stopped a team getting relegated, managed to get rid of 20 odd first team high earning players to ship out when zero clubs actually really wanted them and rebuild a club that we are now actually getting excited about again….
And so many of those so called supporters don’t even have the basic balls to join in the enjoyment.
Sad feckers,
I get that as fans we have gripes, frustrations and differing opinions but it also just shows that some fans have chosen and only know of a singular toxic form of ‘supporting’ their team and it doesn’t warrant to be connected to the word ‘supporting’. They don’t support Stoke - they idly await a reason to grumble and be negative over something they choose to follow - sooo bizarre.
Anyways… just feel sorry for ya’ll tbh.
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 17, 2021 22:30:12 GMT
I'm not a massive fan of digging these threads up to prove a point... As the saying goes a broken clock is right twice a day... The critisism last season was 100% justified for alot of the season
HOWEVER
Pre season, clear out of evil, transfers in, start to this season is massively promising and, dare I say it, we are looking bloody good. I said on here that I was going to erase any existing faults etc from last season and start a fresh this season and if it carries on like this, MON and the rest of the club will get nothing but praise from me, however if things go sour again (I genuinely don't think they will) then I, and others on here, will say what we believe. But as I say I, I really don't think that will happen and for the first time in a long time, I'm REALLY optimistic and excited about this season
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Post by mcw on Aug 17, 2021 22:34:37 GMT
And the more time that passes the more you realise what an utter charlatan Gary Rowett was, he is pretty much 100% responsible for holding us back by 12/24 months with his car crash spending spree post relegation. Hughes was not blameless on that score, but he at least earned the right to make a few mistakes. If only we had skipped that toaster!!!!
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Post by liathroid on Aug 17, 2021 22:35:28 GMT
Nah I think this team pisses over last seasons, last seasons had Batth & Chester at the back and Headless Joe doing his usual act of being in 17 different positions other than the one he’s meant to be in. Also think there was too much poison around the club, there’s no doubt this appears to be a much happier squad, I feel like MON’s thought process was steady the ship enough to see the season out then the purge can start, wasn’t pretty but it seems to be paying off so far at least. Allen has been doing that this season bar tonight 😂 And Chester was a lot better (for him) last season. But the back 3 is different class agreed. But I’d have Mikel or Cousins in this midfield over Allen tbh. I don’t think the poison was an issue tbh. The squad always seemed to be ok in the spirits stake. And even the ones we hate seem liked by the players. And Etebo and Badou who are the two I think would affect that haven’t been at the club for 18 months. Them pair of CUNTS refused to play for the club
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 17, 2021 22:36:01 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 17, 2021 22:36:59 GMT
No. They were irrelevant. It doesn’t stop you trying to attack. And I think the dressing room was fine. The only issue seemed to be McKinlay. I don't think the appointment of Holden replacing McKinlay should be overlooked. I’ve pondered this but is he really that influential? ( glad to have him in the camp btw)
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 17, 2021 22:37:09 GMT
BRIAN: Are you the O’Neill People's Front? REG: Fuck off! BRIAN: What? REG: O’Neill People's Front. We're the People's Front of O’Neill! O’Neill People's Front. Cawk. FRANCIS: Wankers. BRIAN: Can I... join your group? REG: No. Piss off. MON to PC: Hello, Peter. Pete: Don't you "hello Peter" me! What're all those people doing out there? C'mon, what've you been up to, my lad? MON: I think they must've popped by, or something. Pete: Popped by? Swarmed by, more like! There's a multitude out there! ARTHUR and HARRY: Speak to us, Master! Speak to us! MON: Go away! FOLLOWERS: A blessing! A blessing! ARTHUR: How shall we go away, Master?! MON: Oh, just go away! Leave me alone! SHOE FOLLOWER: Give us a sign! ARTHUR: He has given us a sign! He has brought us to this place! MON: I didn't bring you here! You just followed me! SHOE FOLLOWER: Oh, it's still a good sign by any standard. ARTHUR: Master! Your people have walked many miles to be with You! They are weary and have not seen a decent team in years. MON: It's not my fault they haven't had a decent team! ARTHUR: There is no decent players in this team! MON: Well, what about the lad Brown over there? ELSIE: Hhhh! FOLLOWERS: Heh! A miracle! A miracle! Ohh!... SHOE FOLLOWER: He has made Jacob Brown fruitful by His words.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 22:42:56 GMT
Attention. This vehicle is reversing. Beep.Beep.Beep
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Post by a on Aug 17, 2021 22:45:14 GMT
Do you not think that a big part of the problem was all the shit we had clinging on? Don’t you acknowledge it could have had a negative affect on the dressing room? We’ve shifted those bad eggs out and now the team look a lot better. Not a coincidence IMO No. They were irrelevant. It doesn’t stop you trying to attack. And I think the dressing room was fine. The only issue seemed to be McKinlay. I think you’ve shown your ignorance to what goes on behind the scenes, especially the importance of the team and the effect of bad apples. I’d say I’m surprised but that would be a lie.
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Post by nickpowellgoals on Aug 17, 2021 22:54:37 GMT
I just like the stability that seems to have returned to the club - the chopping and changing of Lambert, Rowett and then Jones in under 2 years caused a really mismatched squad of players.
MON has been in post for nearly 2 years and has seemingly got the squad into a position where he is stamping his system. While a lot of his football thus far has been awful, it seems to be improving after he's been given chance. I admit that Jones had to go, as did Rowett. Nonetheless it seems admissible that a period of stability has really improved our fortunes.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 17, 2021 22:59:14 GMT
Please....don't fire him! We just started doing this new thing.
Winning.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2021 23:09:30 GMT
No. They were irrelevant. It doesn’t stop you trying to attack. And I think the dressing room was fine. The only issue seemed to be McKinlay. I think you’ve shown your ignorance to what goes on behind the scenes, especially the importance of the team and the effect of bad apples. I’d say I’m surprised but that would be a lie. The team spirit was fine though. And as I’ve said even the ones we don’t like seem well liked by the other players. I think it’s overplayed massively. Bauer and Wimmer seem well liked. McClean definitely was. As I said the only two would be Badou and Etebo but neither have been at the club for 18 months have they? So who exactly are the bad apples?
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Post by gawa on Aug 17, 2021 23:18:15 GMT
I think any professional footballer though tends to keep personal opinions out of the public eye.
You can sit and speculate that Bauer, McClean etc.. are well liked. But I'm sure many on here probably thought shawcross got along with the majority of the squad during the PL days and that it was harmonious. And we've recently learned that wasn't the case.
I'm sure seeing players such as Vokes earning 30k a week with 0 goal contributions across the season must cause some form of resentment and frustration within the squad.
Just because it isn't publicised doesn't mean everything is good within.
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Post by yyy on Aug 17, 2021 23:24:39 GMT
Is this going to be towed out everytime we have a few good results and a few bad results.
Sad & embarrassing in equal measure
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