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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2021 9:41:36 GMT
From The Independent:
Education Secretary Gavin Williamson has condemned “completely unacceptable” protests outside a school in West Yorkshire after a teacher was suspended for showing a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad in class.
At least 50 demonstrators congregated at Batley Grammar School on Thursday, with images on social media showing the crowd partially blocking the road.
The protests were organised after it was claimed a cartoon, reportedly an image previously published by French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, was shown during a religious studies class.
West Yorkshire Police said the street outside the school had been closed for a short time
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Where are the Police enforcing the Covid rules on gatherings and social distancing here why would that be ?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 26, 2021 10:00:27 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 26, 2021 10:03:31 GMT
politics and religion the 2 most divisive elements in society. If only there wasn’t radical views on either side the world would be a better place.
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Post by erogenous on Mar 26, 2021 10:23:00 GMT
The religion of peace demanding special treatment in an aggressive and socially divisive way.
We obviously need to show more sensitivity and understanding.
In a mad way I admire them they are like really organised militant scousers.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 26, 2021 10:49:06 GMT
This is fucking outrageous. What is happening to this country?
Apparently the teacher in question is now under police protection. Police protection for a teaching his children the importance free speech. The PM needs to grow some fucking balls and step in here. Free speech has to be protected at all costs.
I'm genuinely concerned for the teacher's safety. Certain people will want him dead and we saw what happened with the beheading in France.
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Post by Orbs on Mar 26, 2021 10:50:02 GMT
Most schools follow the agreed syllabus from the local authority in which they are situated. N Yorks agreed syllabus
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 26, 2021 11:01:01 GMT
Most schools follow the agreed syllabus from the local authority in which they are situated. N Yorks agreed syllabusYes, Orbs, thanks, I used to teach RE in Derbyshire in the 80s. In those days we had SACRE...Standing Advisory Committee on Religious Education...to discuss the syllabus/issues. It was a time when RE moved away from being bible/ Christianity based to being multicultural. I was organising visits to Mosques, Synagogues, Gurdwaras etc...it was actually popular with the children....and even the parents, who even at Secondary came along with us.More pupils opted for RE than history at GCSE. It has been my opinion that anything should be up for discussion. I can understand the view that some might be offended because of their love of God, but for me I don't think that anyone should intimidate or restrict another person's thinking/ exploring because of their own views....and in any case there are ways and means of having discussions/ achieving change. Certainly teachers lives should not be at risk. Clearly this teacher will not teach at thst school again....the school will " have " to stand down....and I think it will have wider implications all across the school and in the community. As you say, there will be an agreed syllabus ,so presumably the teacher is teaching to it.....and yet he/ she will be hounded out.
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Post by franklin on Mar 26, 2021 11:04:05 GMT
Its the same "rent a demonstrator" who caused all the problems at the Birmingham school. He's in the "beige" overcoat the same youth who harassed people outside the Birmingham school. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-56523179
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 26, 2021 11:10:42 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 26, 2021 11:16:29 GMT
i spoke to a teacher yesterday and every religion is covered now. It seems more like it’s almost a religious history syllabus now than one that’s simply reading from the bible. It sounds like a lot more fun and should be bringing different communities together not splitting them. This i guess is what happens when you have a religion where it’s their way or the hard way. People should be entitled to follow the religion they want and there should be allowed to be healthy discussion around all religions without getting like this. These parents aggression will follow down to their children which is very sad.
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Post by mattyd2 on Mar 26, 2021 11:18:15 GMT
Some so called Islamic charity has named the teacher, which is bang out of order, similar thing in France led to a teacher being beheaded.
Could you imagine this sort of faux Outrage if it had been mocking christianity, the makers of The Life of Brian and Spitting Image would have been lynched.
So called religion of peace my arse.
Heathens living in the dark ages.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2021 11:44:52 GMT
i spoke to a teacher yesterday and every religion is covered now. It seems more like it’s almost a religious history syllabus now than one that’s simply reading from the bible. It sounds like a lot more fun and should be bringing different communities together not splitting them. This i guess is what happens when you have a religion where it’s their way or the hard way. People should be entitled to follow the religion they want and there should be allowed to be healthy discussion around all religions without getting like this. These parents aggression will follow down to their children which is very sad. This is where over tolerance and appeasement lead, I wonder how many of these protesters were issued with statutory fines for breaking covid regulations, will the organiser be fined £10,000 if not another dangerous precedent has been set, you can't appease bullies it doesn't work never has and never will.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2021 11:54:17 GMT
Some so called Islamic charity has named the teacher, which is bang out of order, similar thing in France led to a teacher being beheaded. Could you imagine this sort of faux Outrage if it had been mocking christianity, the makers of The Life of Brian and Spitting Image would have been lynched. So called religion of peace my arse. Heathens living in the dark ages. If true their charity status should be removed.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 26, 2021 12:08:34 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me.....
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2021 12:15:04 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... Sort of blows Covid legislation and laws out of the water though doesn't it, you can not apply these laws differently to suit political agendas or communities it's farcical and frankly makes our police force look weak and spineless.
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 26, 2021 12:21:54 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... Sort of blows Covid legislation and laws out of the water though doesn't it, you can not apply these laws differently to suit political agendas or communities it's farcical and frankly makes our police force look weak and spineless. I disagree Leeds supporters, Liverpool supporters, Rangers supporters, go down any park when the sun is out the laws are being applied differently and in most cases sensibly because it just wouldn't be practicible to arrest everyone if there is violence like in Bristol thats different.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2021 12:44:06 GMT
Sort of blows Covid legislation and laws out of the water though doesn't it, you can not apply these laws differently to suit political agendas or communities it's farcical and frankly makes our police force look weak and spineless. I disagree Leeds supporters, Liverpool supporters, Rangers supporters, go down any park when the sun is out the laws are being applied differently and in most cases sensibly because it just wouldn't be practicible to arrest everyone if there is violence like in Bristol thats different. There was only 50 there apparently, they know who organised it not difficult is it, mixed messages
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Post by Orbs on Mar 26, 2021 12:55:57 GMT
Most schools follow the agreed syllabus from the local authority in which they are situated. N Yorks agreed syllabusYes, Orbs, thanks, I used to teach RE in Derbyshire in the 80s. In those days we had SACRE...Standing Advisory Committee on Religious Education...to discuss the syllabus/issues. It was a time when RE moved away from being bible/ Christianity based to being multicultural. I was organising visits to Mosques, Synagogues, Gurdwaras etc...it was actually popular with the children....and even the parents, who even at Secondary came along with us.More pupils opted for RE than history at GCSE. It has been my opinion that anything should be up for discussion. I can understand the view that some might be offended because of their love of God, but for me I don't think that anyone should intimidate or restrict another person's thinking/ exploring because of their own views....and in any case there are ways and means of having discussions/ achieving change. Certainly teachers lives should not be at risk. Clearly this teacher will not teach at thst school again....the school will " have " to stand down....and I think it will have wider implications all across the school and in the community. As you say, there will be an agreed syllabus ,so presumably the teacher is teaching to it.....and yet he/ she will be hounded out. Spot on BJR. Totally agree. The more education about RE the better. Stops people being frightened and unwelcoming towards other faiths and cultures because of a lack of education. If it is the same guy from Birmingham organising the protest then he appeared at our local school about 18 months ago protesting about the teaching of LGBTQ in the SRE curriculum. He was met with short shrift by a large number of counter protesters (including Mrs Orbs) waving rainbow flags etc. Soon got packed off.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 26, 2021 13:14:05 GMT
They'll want Ricky Gervais' head on a stick.
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Post by felonious on Mar 26, 2021 13:14:33 GMT
This is fucking outrageous. What is happening to this country? Apparently the teacher in question is now under police protection. Police protection for a teaching his children the importance free speech. The PM needs to grow some fucking balls and step in here. Free speech has to be protected at all costs. I'm genuinely concerned for the teacher's safety. Certain people will want him dead and we saw what happened with the beheading in France. It's been going on since Salmon Rushdie.
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Post by adri2008 on Mar 26, 2021 13:21:20 GMT
Always amazes me the ridiculous fanfare you get with regards religion. If you don't like what someone says, just ignore them. Problem solved without the need to behead anyone.
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Post by thevoid on Mar 26, 2021 13:35:15 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... I love Ricky G. And he's far from right wing too.
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Post by zerps on Mar 26, 2021 13:35:20 GMT
How many of them were handcuffed by the police? Was it none? 😂
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Post by starkiller on Mar 26, 2021 14:10:00 GMT
Always amazes me the ridiculous fanfare you get with regards religion. If you don't like what someone says, just ignore them. Problem solved without the need to behead anyone. If their god is so offended by these cartoons, why doesn't he strike this bloke down?
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 26, 2021 14:35:02 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... If this tweet is genuine, then I can’t see it ending well for Ricky. He will be getting pelters for this, is he brave or strong enough to kick back, or will he roll over with a retraction and apology?
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Post by Orbs on Mar 26, 2021 14:46:52 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... If this tweet is genuine, then I can’t see it ending well for Ricky. He will be getting pelters for this, is he brave or strong enough to kick back, or will he roll over with a retraction and apology? He doesn’t give a fuck.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 26, 2021 14:48:15 GMT
Without knowing the context it was shown in its hard to comment on the story meaningfully, can't see the teacher has done anything wrong apart from maybe being insensitive, nothing wrong with protesting as long as there is no threats of violence does seem a bit strange cartoons are causing more offence than an actual ongoing genecide in china but maybe thats just me..... If this tweet is genuine, then I can’t see it ending well for Ricky. He will be getting pelters for this, is he brave or strong enough to kick back, or will he roll over with a retraction and apology? He's been making comments like this one for years to be fair......
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 26, 2021 14:51:45 GMT
If this tweet is genuine, then I can’t see it ending well for Ricky. He will be getting pelters for this, is he brave or strong enough to kick back, or will he roll over with a retraction and apology? He doesn’t give a fuck. Quite rightly too upto 31k likes so seems he is going to be ok, anyone it offends should search I dont want guitar lessons.
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Post by zerps on Mar 26, 2021 14:52:25 GMT
Fair play to gervais. He’s absolutely right and he’s got the bollocks to say it in public.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 26, 2021 15:05:48 GMT
Never been a Ricky Gervais fan, however he's gone up in my estimation with that tweet, cos he's bang on the money
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