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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 15:22:09 GMT
Amongst my specialist interest subjects, a key area of study is English Follore and tradition, and this extends to both to old villages with their sometimes strange names for locations and lanes, and a fascination for old and historic inns and pubs. I travel all over the country and if I know of a nearby public house that has a compelling lifestory, such as an association with a particular historical event, or perhaps a famous author, or maybe haunted, I will go out of my way to visit it. Hopefully all the restrictions on travel and hostelry socialising will end soon and I can go back to my "studies".
There are so many interesting and often clearly popular pub names such as the Royal Oak and the Marquis of Granby. Many are famous names in their own right whilst some signs are just weird. One such that is currently fascinating me is The Old Silent Inn, Stanbury, West Yorkshire near the Bronte’s village of Haworth. The pub dates back over 400 years and legend has it that when Bonnie Prince Charlie was retreating to Scotland, he stayed here, when it was then called “The Eagle Inn”. Standing just outside of the village of Stanbury, the inn gave shelter to the Prince who had to make a dashing escape when his pursuers discovered his whereabouts.. The local inhabitants remained silent about his presence and so it is believed that is why it adopted its present name. More colourful however is the background of haunting and the Inn apparently hosts a number of ghostly inhabitants, too numerous to mention here, but according to one previous landlord, a man in a top hat and long coat appears to guests, and he is often referred to as "Old Silent".
What prompted this thread, strangely, is a junk email, which I seem to receive and delete every day entitled "Flabby Arms". I have no idea of its content but everyday I think how that would make a really attention catching name for a pub. The Flabby Arms.
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2021 15:35:41 GMT
If i was uber generalissimo/king/ el presidente of these isles I would make it law that no two pubs could have the same name, you'd get some inventive names then I'm sure
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 25, 2021 15:45:49 GMT
Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem
As England's oldest inn, the pub is nestled beneath the cliff on which Nottingham's historic castle stands, and was once a well-known pit stop for crusader knights. It is said that King Richard the Lionheart and his men are more than likely to have gathered at this historic royal dwelling before journeying to Jerusalem in 1189AD, thus giving the pub its unusual name. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 15:46:40 GMT
If i was uber generalissimo/king/ el presidente of these isles I would make it law that no two pubs could have the same name, you'd get some inventive names then I'm sure So many pub names have historical backrounds, often going back up to 300 years or more. What makes things interesting though is the evolution of modern naming. For example most Stokies will have known of Pubs such as "The Man in Space" at Hanford, which had the image of an Apollo Spacewalker on its pub sign. (1970's). And new entrants to the market are coming up with innovative ideas, such as the "Slug and Lettuce" chain, and of course Wetherspoons, who often choose the most obscure name they can think of, based on local historic tradition, being in Hanley's case "The Reginald Mitchell". |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 15:49:47 GMT
Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem
As England's oldest inn, the pub is nestled beneath the cliff on which Nottingham's historic castle stands, and was once a well-known pit stop for crusader knights. It is said that King Richard the Lionheart and his men are more than likely to have gathered at this historic royal dwelling before journeying to Jerusalem in 1189AD, thus giving the pub its unusual name. A unique pub, with parts of its interior formed from the rock face of the cliff. Well worth a visit. As are the other dozen or so pubs that variously claim to be England's oldest!  |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 25, 2021 15:56:25 GMT
Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem
As England's oldest inn, the pub is nestled beneath the cliff on which Nottingham's historic castle stands, and was once a well-known pit stop for crusader knights. It is said that King Richard the Lionheart and his men are more than likely to have gathered at this historic royal dwelling before journeying to Jerusalem in 1189AD, thus giving the pub its unusual name. A unique pub, with parts of its interior formed from the rock face of the cliff. Well worth a visit. As are the other dozen or so pubs that variously claim to be England's oldest! Isn't there some tale about a model galleon that hangs in the bar that was given as payment for a bar tab covered in cob webs, legend has it that whoever cleans it dies apparently two cleaners in the past have  |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 16:04:21 GMT
A unique pub, with parts of its interior formed from the rock face of the cliff. Well worth a visit. As are the other dozen or so pubs that variously claim to be England's oldest! Isn't there some tale about a model galleon that hangs in the bar that was given as payment for a bar tab covered in cob webs, legend has it that whoever cleans it dies apparently two cleaners in the past have Apparently true Crapslinger. A more recent "Legend" than some, but inside the pub’s Rock Lounge is indeed a “cursed” model of a galleon. None of the staff have cleaned it in 50 years because those who have given it a scrub died “mysterious deaths” within a short time of each other. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 25, 2021 16:21:31 GMT
Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem
As England's oldest inn, the pub is nestled beneath the cliff on which Nottingham's historic castle stands, and was once a well-known pit stop for crusader knights. It is said that King Richard the Lionheart and his men are more than likely to have gathered at this historic royal dwelling before journeying to Jerusalem in 1189AD, thus giving the pub its unusual name. Used to be a excellent little pub when the beer was brewed by hardy and Hanson’s a couple of miles up the road in Kimberly Now the bloody beer is brewed by greene king ☹️ |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 25, 2021 16:34:01 GMT
Our village of Brixton's local is the Foxhound Inn. Pretty straight forward you would think as their were many fox hunts in the rural villages of the South Hams. But it isn't that straight forward at all. The first clue is that most pubs linked to fox hunting are called Fox & Hounds so where does the name Foxhound come from? It’s history is linked to smuggling that was rife along the South Devon Coastline in the 18th Century when an ex Royal Naval Captain, Lemuel Parken, was recruited by the Customs and Excise in Plymouth and given command of a cutter called The Foxhound because of its speed. He arrested numerous smugglers and they were tried at the assizes court which was above the coaching inn where the Foxhound is now situated. So pleased were the local authorities with the success of Parken that they awarded him the lease of the inn and he named it The Famous Foxhound Inn. The Famous was dropped and over the years the inn became confused with fox hunting. To add to the confusion the current landlord has many paintings of fox hunting scenes around the pubs interior. Well worth a visit if you’re passing through and has a decent pub menu. www.foxhoundinn.co.uk/ |
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Post by zerps on Mar 25, 2021 17:19:29 GMT
If i was uber generalissimo/king/ el presidente of these isles I would make it law that no two pubs could have the same name, you'd get some inventive names then I'm sure So many pub names have historical backrounds, often going back up to 300 years or more. What makes things interesting though is the evolution of modern naming. For example most Stokies will have known of Pubs such as "The Man in Space" at Hanford, which had the image of an Apollo Spacewalker on its pub sign. (1970's). And new entrants to the market are coming up with innovative ideas, such as the "Slug and Lettuce" chain, and of course Wetherspoons, who often choose the most obscure name they can think of, based on local historic tradition, being in Hanley's case "The Reginald Mitchell". Plenty of sneyd arms in the area thanks to the sneyd family (something I was taught on this board, who says it’s a giant fight club) |
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 25, 2021 17:22:36 GMT
What about the black cock in Blythe bridge
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Post by zerps on Mar 25, 2021 17:26:58 GMT
What about the black cock in Blythe bridge This is about pubs mate |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 17:27:28 GMT
What about the black cock in Blythe bridge Do you want to tell us more?  The Cock Inn in Woodseaves used to have as its sign two cockerels, one to either side of the board. One was a handsome show fowl and the other was a fighting cock with Spurs. Because of the sign the pub was also known locally as the War and Peace, in relation to the roles of the two cocks. |
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Post by 4ndr3w on Mar 25, 2021 17:28:52 GMT
What about the black cock in Blythe bridge Do you want to tell us more? The Cock Inn in Woodseaves used to have as its sign two cockerels, one to either side of the board. One was a handsome show fowl and the other was a fighting cock with Spurs. Because of the sign the pub was also known locally as the War and Peace, in relation to the roles of the two cocks. Was driving through earlier and saw it There was a pub there as well |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2021 17:30:50 GMT
I actually used to live in The White Cock in Blythe Bridge, gone now though.
I’d like to hear of some pub name ideas?
I’ve always fancied owning a pub called The Slippery Gypsy or The Lazy Slug!
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 25, 2021 17:37:23 GMT
There’s the Castle Mona in Newcastle, the only pub in Britain with that name and I believe named after a ferry to the Isle of Man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:38:51 GMT
I don't know anything about the history of the place, or the reason for the name, but when my job used to take me down into Herefordshire I regularly passed a pub called "The Bunch Of Carrots" in Hampton Bishop, near to Hereford. I can't ever recall seeing another pub with the same name anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:40:46 GMT
There’s the Castle Mona in Newcastle, the only pub in Britain with that name and I believe named after a ferry to the Isle of Man. There used to be the Castle Mona Hotel on the IOM. I don't know if it's still in business. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 25, 2021 17:43:54 GMT
I actually used to live in The White Cock in Blythe Bridge, gone now though. I’d like to hear of some pub name ideas? I’ve always fancied owning a pub called The Slippery Gypsy or The Lazy Slug! The best I can offer Badger is "The Old Thirteenth Cheshire Astley Volunteer Rifleman Corps Inn, (Stalybridge, Tameside.) This is actually Britain's longest current pub name! My personal favourite is "The Case is Altered" at Rowington in Warwickshire. This pub, near the Five Ways roundabout, is small and unusual. In the 19th century the owner, Mercedes Griffith, had a small cottage with a licence to sell beers and ales. She made many applications to be able to sell wines and spirits as well, but was always refused on the grounds that her premises were too small. Eventually she was able to buy the cottage next door, and so in her next licencing application the clerk was able to advise the Court that "the Case is altered’, and she got her full licence. The road it stands in has also been renamed ‘Case Lane’ after the pub. The name is not unique to this pub in Warwickshire, with various explanations for the name elsewhere (though usually involving a court case). |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Mar 25, 2021 17:44:39 GMT
There’s the Castle Mona in Newcastle, the only pub in Britain with that name and I believe named after a ferry to the Isle of Man. There used to be the Castle Mona Hotel on the IOM. I don't know if it's still in business. There still is a Castle Mona Hotel, I’ve had a drink in there during the TT a few years back. |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Mar 25, 2021 17:46:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:50:20 GMT
There used to be the Castle Mona Hotel on the IOM. I don't know if it's still in business. There still is a Castle Mona Hotel, I’ve had a drink in there during the TT a few years back. Yes me too. I used to go over as part of my job to the TT for about 15 years on the trot and regularly went into the Castle Mona. I actually met what turned out to be a real bunny boiler in there one year. She was a bit "obsessive" I think you might say !  |
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 25, 2021 18:06:54 GMT
I actually used to live in The White Cock in Blythe Bridge, gone now though. I’d like to hear of some pub name ideas? I’ve always fancied owning a pub called The Slippery Gypsy or The Lazy Slug! Saracens Head in Tean was known to the locals as the N*****s Nut  |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2021 18:19:48 GMT
Of course the Holy Inadequate in Etruria is a great pub name and a very decent boozer. Well it was the last time I went in.
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 25, 2021 18:34:18 GMT
What are these 'pubs' you speak of?
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 25, 2021 18:44:10 GMT
I don't know anything about the history of the place, or the reason for the name, but when my job used to take me down into Herefordshire I regularly passed a pub called "The Bunch Of Carrots" in Hampton Bishop, near to Hereford. I can't ever recall seeing another pub with the same name anywhere. There is actually an album called ‘Live Carrots’ that a bunch of very, very good Mid Wales musos put out in the ?early eighties. Recorded at... Edit: Manyana Live Carrots. www.discogs.com/Manyana-Live-Carrots/release/1641756/image/SW1hZ2U6MjQzMjMwMA== |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2021 18:52:52 GMT
What are these 'pubs' you speak of? There’s going to be a lot of goggly eyed men (and women) when the pubs first open. Wondering what happens when they enter these establishments. And I imagine a lot of absolute throbbers getting wankered as quickly as possible straining the resources of our emergency services to the max 👀 |
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Post by alsagerstokie on Mar 25, 2021 19:02:56 GMT
Isn't there some tale about a model galleon that hangs in the bar that was given as payment for a bar tab covered in cob webs, legend has it that whoever cleans it dies apparently two cleaners in the past have Apparently true Crapslinger. A more recent "Legend" than some, but inside the pub’s Rock Lounge is indeed a “cursed” model of a galleon. None of the staff have cleaned it in 50 years because those who have given it a scrub died “mysterious deaths” within a short time of each other. I can aswell confirm this pub is well worth a visit. Fantastic place. They also do one of the best pints going. Old Trip. Man i need another trip back there. |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Mar 25, 2021 19:31:41 GMT
I was once attending a conference in Bournemouth and the pub down the road was called "The Goat and Tricycle". Whoever came up with than name, God only knows.
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Post by dirtclod on Mar 25, 2021 19:46:41 GMT
One from the US. I used to play darts & pool at The Cock O the Walk in Oklahoma City. It was a real neighborhood staple. About the closest thing you get to a pub over here.
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