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Post by tpholloway1 on Mar 16, 2021 21:23:09 GMT
Given Waddo's tendency to sign players who were, supposedly, past their best I'd have to include Sir Stan Violet Macilroy Jimmy and Sammy Eastham Dobing Vernon.
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Post by wrighter on Mar 16, 2021 21:31:09 GMT
Pericard [he played for Juventus ]
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Post by RF10 on Mar 22, 2021 20:21:07 GMT
Ed de Goey
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Post by walrus on Mar 22, 2021 20:36:25 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away?
Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team.
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Post by sifta on Mar 22, 2021 22:36:55 GMT
Howard Kendall in his prime would walk into that midfield
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Post by sifta on Mar 22, 2021 22:42:57 GMT
Also Matty Etherington, and I agree with the poster who mentioned the Waddo buys that were past their prime, like Jimmy McIllroy, and Dennis Viollet, but I never saw them play.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 22, 2021 22:54:08 GMT
Southall
Glen Johnson Bould Woodgate Statham
Mark Walters JOM Palacios Patrik Berger
Gudjohnsen Owen
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Post by sifta on Mar 23, 2021 11:18:33 GMT
What about Vince Hilaire also!
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Post by sifta on Mar 23, 2021 11:18:55 GMT
Southall
Johnson Woodgate Watson Mills
Etherington JOM Kendall Hilaire
Gudjohnsen Owen
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Post by GoBoks on Mar 23, 2021 19:40:55 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away".
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 23, 2021 20:09:01 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". He was a really talented player though, just maybe not quite the right attitude to make it at the very top level. Bit like that other lad we had on the wing who ended up at Leicester, can’t think of his name now. Either way Commons was pretty good for us so doesn’t qualify...
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 23, 2021 20:22:10 GMT
Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". He was a really talented player though, just maybe not quite the right attitude to make it at the very top level. Bit like that other lad we had on the wing who ended up at Leicester, can’t think of his name now. L Either way Commons was pretty good for us so doesn’t qualify... Ben Marshall
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Post by moon on Mar 23, 2021 20:22:38 GMT
Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". He was a really talented player though, just maybe not quite the right attitude to make it at the very top level. Bit like that other lad we had on the wing who ended up at Leicester, can’t think of his name now. Either way Commons was pretty good for us so doesn’t qualify... Ben Marshall?
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 23, 2021 20:36:30 GMT
That's the one
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Post by RF10 on Mar 23, 2021 20:45:22 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Jakielka played for Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 20:50:58 GMT
Was a top form Peter Shilton better than a top form Big Nev?
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Post by yyy on Mar 23, 2021 20:51:29 GMT
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Begovic
Halls Huth Shawcross Griffin
Whelan N'zonzi Adam
Walters Fuller Arnautovic
From the last 25 years.
That team would give most a game in my opinion
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 23, 2021 21:45:51 GMT
Was a top form Peter Shilton better than a top form Big Nev? Good shout, tough call.
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Post by walrus on Mar 24, 2021 9:32:30 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". Kris Commons was an excellent player. Stoke fans just like to pretend he was shit because he rejected the offer to stay here. I’m absolutely not saying he deserves to be anywhere near an all time Stoke City XI or anything preposterous like that, but in his last season at Derby in the Championship he had a one in two goal scoring record from the wing/number ten which is a superb return and better than any Stoke player has done since Mark Stein. Yes he was content to be a big fish in a small pond at Celtic but as well as finishing as top scorer in the “tinpot league” he scored ten goals in Europe including in the Champions League knockout stages. He definitely fits the brief of players who were really good elsewhere but not so much for Stoke.
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Post by walrus on Mar 24, 2021 9:35:23 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Jakielka played for Stoke? I was admittedly scraping the barrel with that one. He was briefly at our academy as a teenager before joining Sheffield Utd.
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Post by thfc67 on Mar 24, 2021 9:52:08 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Garth Crooks?
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Post by walrus on Mar 24, 2021 10:29:23 GMT
Everyone’s focusing on those that joined us after their peak, but how about those that got away? Lee Dixon, Kris Commons, Ben Foster, and Phil Jagielka are four that spring to mind as going on to have really good careers after leaving Stoke, although Jagielka never played for our first team. Garth Crooks? He did occur to me but I excluded him on the grounds he had a long and successful stint at Stoke so didn’t seem to fit the bill. He played over 150 games for us and scored over 50 goals.
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Post by RF10 on Mar 24, 2021 10:49:37 GMT
Jakielka played for Stoke? I was admittedly scraping the barrel with that one. He was briefly at our academy as a teenager before joining Sheffield Utd. You may aswell throw Demba Ba in the equation then . He did do a training session I believe!
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Post by GoBoks on Mar 24, 2021 12:34:26 GMT
Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". Kris Commons was an excellent player. Stoke fans just like to pretend he was shit because he rejected the offer to stay here. I’m absolutely not saying he deserves to be anywhere near an all time Stoke City XI or anything preposterous like that, but in his last season at Derby in the Championship he had a one in two goal scoring record from the wing/number ten which is a superb return and better than any Stoke player has done since Mark Stein. Yes he was content to be a big fish in a small pond at Celtic but as well as finishing as top scorer in the “tinpot league” he scored ten goals in Europe including in the Champions League knockout stages. He definitely fits the brief of players who were really good elsewhere but not so much for Stoke. How's it going Kris?
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Post by tpholloway1 on Mar 24, 2021 13:38:00 GMT
Lee Dixon, Granted, Ben Foster, hmmm, Jagielka I didn't even know was here so fair play, but Kris Commons?!?!? At the pinnacle of his career, he was no more than bog average. Yes, 32 goals in a tin pot league is good, but there is no way he deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as anyone else on this thread. That's like saying Graham Kavanagh was "one that got away". Kris Commons was an excellent player. Stoke fans just like to pretend he was shit because he rejected the offer to stay here. I’m absolutely not saying he deserves to be anywhere near an all time Stoke City XI or anything preposterous like that, but in his last season at Derby in the Championship he had a one in two goal scoring record from the wing/number ten which is a superb return and better than any Stoke player has done since Mark Stein. Yes he was content to be a big fish in a small pond at Celtic but as well as finishing as top scorer in the “tinpot league” he scored ten goals in Europe including in the Champions League knockout stages. He definitely fits the brief of players who were really good elsewhere but not so much for Stoke. I think the animosity towards Kris Commons stems from the time he suffered a serious injury and Stoke stood by him. As soon as he was fit again he left for Derby. Ben Foster never played for our first team.
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Post by Picasso on Mar 24, 2021 13:50:34 GMT
He definitely fits the brief of players who were really good elsewhere but not so much for Stoke. This is going away from the OP, but one I could never work out was Tony Ellis, who seemed decent at Preston (in two spells either side of his time at Stoke) but awful here. I remember a 4-1 win versus a top of the table West Brom where Commons was excellent. I think he did well for us, mostly, but that was second tier and short lived. As you say, he doesn’t make a ‘best’ Stoke XI any day.
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