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Post by chuffedstokie on Mar 11, 2021 22:11:33 GMT
Just watched an incredible documentary re the above. Astonishing. The facts, footage, survival, loss, everything. And we think we've got problems. News headlines and clips were never going to cover the enormity of the event. We're at the mercy of this planet, and the largest city on it (Tokyo) is far from safe apparently. Just incredible.
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Post by lordb on Mar 11, 2021 22:45:46 GMT
Can't say as I took it all in at the time as the whole thing just washed over me
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 12, 2021 8:30:01 GMT
Just watched an incredible documentary re the above. Astonishing. The facts, footage, survival, loss, everything. And we think we've got problems. News headlines and clips were never going to cover the enormity of the event. We're at the mercy of this planet, and the largest city on it (Tokyo) is far from safe apparently. Just incredible. Not that earthquakes and tsunamis are much more than natural geological phenomena and therefore outside of our direct control, but you'd think we'd do a bit more to look after it, and by default, our own chances of survival on it, but it's taking a very long time to turn the ship around, if we're even really trying. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 9:47:23 GMT
Just watched an incredible documentary re the above. Astonishing. The facts, footage, survival, loss, everything. And we think we've got problems. News headlines and clips were never going to cover the enormity of the event. We're at the mercy of this planet, and the largest city on it (Tokyo) is far from safe apparently. Just incredible. Not that earthquakes and tsunamis are much more than natural geological phenomena and therefore outside of our direct control, but you'd think we'd do a bit more to look after it, and by default, our own chances of survival on it, but it's taking a very long time to turn the ship around, if we're even really trying. Attenborough’s a life on our planet is a really decent book. A bit of a grim read but then he lays out his visions of how we can help the world heal itself (mainly initiatives aimed at allowing the recapture of released carbons) and whilst it will take a large collective effort it’s all very “doable”. We are undertaking projects that are much more difficult than re-wilding initiatives. Somr of those more difficult projects are of profound usefulness (colonisation of Mars) and some far less so (the investment into weapons of mass destruction). Whether we do save the planet though despite the proposals being well within reason, I have no idea. The obsession governments have with GDP is a major stumbling block. From what I hear the current NZ government are very progressive with their approach and don’t focus on GDP but that’s a tiny country in terms of population. The bigger a government/country is the more difficult it’s going to be. Large centralised government is inherently problematic. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Mar 12, 2021 12:34:05 GMT
Just watched an incredible documentary re the above. Astonishing. The facts, footage, survival, loss, everything. And we think we've got problems. News headlines and clips were never going to cover the enormity of the event. We're at the mercy of this planet, and the largest city on it (Tokyo) is far from safe apparently. Just incredible. Not that earthquakes and tsunamis are much more than natural geological phenomena and therefore outside of our direct control, but you'd think we'd do a bit more to look after it, and by default, our own chances of survival on it, but it's taking a very long time to turn the ship around, if we're even really trying. Agreed. While there's nothing we can do with regards what's happening under the oceans everything above is collectively our species responsibility. As was described in minute detail this was the single most predicted and monitored event of its kind but even though human losses were terrible many survived. One thing that was questioned though was having a nuclear power facility only metres away from the coast. Unfortunately a lot of the defences were rendered useless because the shelf dropped by over a metre as one slid under the other. Just astounding. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 12, 2021 12:49:26 GMT
Not that earthquakes and tsunamis are much more than natural geological phenomena and therefore outside of our direct control, but you'd think we'd do a bit more to look after it, and by default, our own chances of survival on it, but it's taking a very long time to turn the ship around, if we're even really trying. Attenborough’s a life on our planet is a really decent book. A bit of a grim read but then he lays out his visions of how we can help the world heal itself (mainly initiatives aimed at allowing the recapture of released carbons) and whilst it will take a large collective effort it’s all very “doable”. We are undertaking projects that are much more difficult than re-wilding initiatives. Somr of those more difficult projects are of profound usefulness (colonisation of Mars) and some far less so (the investment into weapons of mass destruction). Whether we do save the planet though despite the proposals being well within reason, I have no idea. The obsession governments have with GDP is a major stumbling block. From what I hear the current NZ government are very progressive with their approach and don’t focus on GDP but that’s a tiny country in terms of population. The bigger a government/country is the more difficult it’s going to be. Large centralised government is inherently problematic. Yes, I'm all for it. Although also pretty realistic about how likely most people are to put up with anything that interferes with a lifestyle of instant gratification, flying off on holiday regularly and driving wherever they want! Completely agree about GDP and the global economic growth model, which is basically consumerist capitalism and reliant on additional consumption year on year. We hear a lot about switching to renewables for energy generation, but if you consider the following, it doesn't bode well does it: www.statista.com/statistics/271823/daily-global-crude-oil-demand-since-2006/I didn't know that about NZ, good for them if they're taking that approach. Bhutan does that too. A tiny Asian country admittedly but apparently the only country which is entirely sustainable. We don't do too badly according to this source, but we really do have a shitload to learn from the Scandinavian countries on so many levels: www.robeco.com/en/key-strengths/sustainable-investing/country-ranking/ |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 12, 2021 19:23:53 GMT
Can't say as I took it all in at the time as the whole thing just washed over me That would've been funny, but sadly it wasn't just water under the bridge. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 12, 2021 19:28:48 GMT
Some of the footage you can see of this stuff is truly horrifying. We are very lucky to live where we do. My heart goes out to the victims of these disasters, they’ve got no chance when nature takes its course😟
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Post by zerps on Mar 12, 2021 20:03:53 GMT
Some of the footage you can see of this stuff is truly horrifying. We are very lucky to live where we do. My heart goes out to the victims of these disasters, they’ve got no chance when nature takes its course😟 Stoke-on- trent - absolutely wank but tsunami proof |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 12, 2021 20:06:03 GMT
Some of the footage you can see of this stuff is truly horrifying. We are very lucky to live where we do. My heart goes out to the victims of these disasters, they’ve got no chance when nature takes its course😟 Stoke-on- trent - absolutely wank but tsunami proof We never get the worst weather although I did see my first big tree casualty of my life today locally. 40 years it’s taken😀 |
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Post by zerps on Mar 12, 2021 20:13:42 GMT
Stoke-on- trent - absolutely wank but tsunami proof We never get the worst weather although I did see my first big tree casualty of my life today locally. 40 years it’s taken😀 I’d rather live in an active volcano ffs |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 11:51:23 GMT
We never get the worst weather although I did see my first big tree casualty of my life today locally. 40 years it’s taken😀 I’d rather live in an active volcano ffs You should play Zelda: Breath of The Wild. There's a city in a volcano with a race of humanoids living there, that feed exclusively on rocks. It's basically a much warmer version of chell heath. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 13, 2021 17:35:11 GMT
Shocking what happened, and atm I'm living on the San Andreas fault so it's a scary thought.
There's a Japanese doc who's saying that the evacuation did more health damage than the radiation from the Fukushima nuke plant, maybe we can learn how to handle these disasters better in future.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Mar 13, 2021 21:25:57 GMT
Amazing documentary - I’d not realised how devastating it was - the power of Mother Nature is truly awesome
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