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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 6, 2021 17:05:35 GMT
8 a game we were expected to win and should have won by 5 but a good performance should have subbed Allen and maybe given Matondo a run out. Gouranga.  |
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Post by stokesupporter on Mar 6, 2021 17:07:03 GMT
I'll give him 8 for a good solid game that could have easily seen us win by four with better finishing.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2021 17:08:09 GMT
8. Surprised he played the dynamic duo again in midfield, and we were wasteful in front of goal but that’s not his fault. Easy win in the end 👍👍
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 6, 2021 17:08:13 GMT
7, 4-2-3-1 and we win again, shocker.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 6, 2021 17:09:28 GMT
7, 4-2-3-1 and we win again, shocker. Same, should be this formation every game and God knows why he doesn't see it. Not saying we'd win every game, but we'd have a good number more points. Maybe as many as 10 more. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Mar 6, 2021 17:10:17 GMT
8
It’s a win
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Post by liathroid on Mar 6, 2021 17:10:50 GMT
COMON SAL
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 6, 2021 17:11:28 GMT
7, 4-2-3-1 and we win again, shocker. Same, should be this formation every game and God knows why he doesn't see it. Not saying we'd win every game, but we'd have a good number more points. Maybe as many as 10 more. I think he does see it, but he only uses it against the teams we're expected/more likely to beat, he's too scared against anyone else. |
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 6, 2021 17:11:45 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 6, 2021 17:11:49 GMT
7.5
Hopefully he has now decided that we look ten times more likely to score if we play 4231. Hopefully he has seen enough in Clarke to give him a run of starts. Hopefully he will finally see that Allen and Mikel is not our best midfield pairing on recent form.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2021 17:11:58 GMT
7, 4-2-3-1 and we win again, shocker. Same, should be this formation every game and God knows why he doesn't see it. Not saying we'd win every game, but we'd have a good number more points. Maybe as many as 10 more. It’s the way to play against shit opposition that we should be beating. We were fine playing 343 against Brentford and Swansea. |
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Post by jeycov on Mar 6, 2021 17:12:24 GMT
8
Positive to see Clarke start and Brown withdrawn
Either Allen or Mikel should have been subbed
Manager cannot be responsible for players missing good chances
A couple of important saves from Gunn
Regardless 3 much needed points
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Post by chiswickpotter on Mar 6, 2021 17:13:35 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts. Bang average? Picked the right team, played the right tactics and only poor finishing stopped it being 5-0. He can’t score the goals for them |
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 6, 2021 17:13:48 GMT
8.
Only loses marks for that midfield, which needs splitting up. Played the right system and we approached the game in the right manner.
A regulation Championship victory in the end, but one that is gratefully received.
We need more of those next season should we harbour realistic expectations of achieving something.
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Post by mickey2693 on Mar 6, 2021 17:14:06 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts. Really? I thought 5-0 wouldn't have been an unfair scoreline |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 6, 2021 17:15:36 GMT
Same, should be this formation every game and God knows why he doesn't see it. Not saying we'd win every game, but we'd have a good number more points. Maybe as many as 10 more. It’s the way to play against shit opposition that we should be beating. We were fine playing 343 against Brentford and Swansea. We lost both games, it wasn't fine. Not saying we would have won both games, or even not lost, but it's our most effective formation with the players we have and is what we should start every game with. And if it doesn't work, change it mid game. It should always be our starting blueprint though unless we are able to sign the necessary players in the summer to play other systems. |
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 6, 2021 17:16:56 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts. Bang average? Picked the right team, played the right tactics and only poor finishing stopped it being 5-0. He can’t score the goals for them Statistically (based on last 8 away games for Wycombe) you should be beating them 2-0 at least (they have conceded 18 goals in those 8 games). so yes. BANG AVERAGE. but yeah statistics is a dark art etc. But a win is a win and I am Stoke fan happy (not happy about having nothing to bitch and moan about....) |
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2021 17:18:22 GMT
It’s the way to play against shit opposition that we should be beating. We were fine playing 343 against Brentford and Swansea. We lost both games, it wasn't fine. Not saying we would have won both games, or even not lost, but it's our most effective formation with the players we have and is what we should start every game with. And if it doesn't work, change it mid game. It should always be our starting blueprint though unless we are able to sign the necessary players in the summer to play other systems. We deserved two draws and don’t forget we played 4231 second half v Swansea and lost the game. It’s horses for courses, a system that helps us beat garbage like Wycombe might not be right to beat Boro away. |
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Post by houstonsteve on Mar 6, 2021 17:20:54 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts. Really? I thought 5-0 wouldn't have been an unfair scoreline Last I looked the score was 2-0. Saying 5 for us means you need to give at least 1 (maybe 2) to them which would still have been what should have happened to the game (if you ignore that we were actually worse in the form table than them). But it's all about opinions isn't it when you ignore that the actual score was 2-0. Just going to enjoy the win and not having a go so don't misinterpret. cheers. |
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Post by christhepotter on Mar 6, 2021 17:21:06 GMT
5 - The stats don't lie. Thats a bang average performance against Wycombe (who are definitely the best team in the league admittedly) buts its nice to have a Saturday afternoon with a win under our belts. Bang average? Picked the right team, played the right tactics and only poor finishing stopped it being 5-0. He can’t score the goals for them You don’t really get sarcasm do you 😂 |
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Post by mermaidsal on Mar 6, 2021 17:21:55 GMT
There was a bit of real authority out there, ok it was Wycombe but when we were back in our deep trough we'd have 0-0'd it or something daft (and under Nath we'd have lost). That was decent management today, good game management, got the subs ok for me 8 Albert are you trying to say you want my job?  xx |
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Post by rambo61 on Mar 6, 2021 17:28:41 GMT
7 for me. Allen was awful and Brown is not a footballer. If he's so athletic let him go and run the 100m hurdles at northwood stadium....we won so its all good for 7 days!!
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Post by moon on Mar 6, 2021 17:29:22 GMT
8
I think he got the vast majority of things right today given the players available, we really should’ve scored 4 or 5 with the chances we created, that’s not MON’s fault though.
Against a better team that midfield would’ve struggled but it was fine for today, he needs to keep the 4-2-3-1 and keep the majority of the team that started today, Clarke deserves a run of games (and the full 90 where possible). When Fletcher and Powell are fit the managers job is a lot easier.
Well played Stoke
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 6, 2021 17:33:12 GMT
Same, should be this formation every game and God knows why he doesn't see it. Not saying we'd win every game, but we'd have a good number more points. Maybe as many as 10 more. It’s the way to play against shit opposition that we should be beating. We were fine playing 343 against Brentford and Swansea. We looked better against Swansea after we changed to 4231. For 20 mins or so at least. 8.5 for today, front foot, more or less the right team, created a bagful. They’re easily the worst team in the league but we did what we needed to. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Mar 6, 2021 17:33:17 GMT
Can’t really score him as it’s only Wycombe , NJ would have won that so a no game really
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Post by stokesaint1 on Mar 6, 2021 17:35:21 GMT
7 for me. Brown should have been subbed at HT at latest and Allen after 60.
Needs to work on finishing and final pass and if they can't improve it then drop the culprits, although I am not sure who is better to bring in as it stands. Could easily have been 5 or 6 with better finishing or final pass.
Also needs to realise we look far better with this formation for future games.
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Post by christhepotter on Mar 6, 2021 17:37:01 GMT
Can’t really score him as it’s only Wycombe , NJ would have won that so a no game really I’m a big critic of MoN but that’s harsh , he played positive football today for once , maybe just because it’s only Wycombe |
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Mar 6, 2021 17:40:24 GMT
5.
The dreadful midfield issues continue. A comfortable win against a dire outfit. Two heavy away defeats coming up and he is in trouble.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 6, 2021 17:42:06 GMT
7
Made hard work against a team that lacks quality at this level. Should be looking to boss the stats against teams like this and we did not
Positives:
Goals and creativity from other parts of the team – other than just about everything coming through Powell.
Clarke, RND looking good and improving with each game, Allen getting through 90 mins and another quality performance from Souttar.
Negatives:
Brown has to be rested now – maybe for the rest of this season. TOB has got to come on and do a bit more when he gets his chance, If that was me on the sidelines I would be chomping at the bit – lacklustre effort from him and there is a good footballer in there. As bad as Brown’s final ball was( on most occasions) he got more involved in the game than TOB – but we don’t need involved at this level we need quality and TOB has that quality – needs to man up a little and show a pair and be a bit braver – if I was his owd man I would be kicking him up the backside, big time, tonight.
48pts down – possibly another 7pts needed for safety, good effort and energy in there but a bit more quality needed in every area of the park if we are looking to move forward.
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Post by march4 on Mar 6, 2021 17:42:37 GMT
6/10 from me.
4-4-1-1 is our best shape and he used it again.
Too late with the subs.
Chance to give one of the youngsters a debut was overlooked.
Continues to play Brown.
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