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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 19:59:40 GMT
From The Sun another knife attack.
ONE person is feared dead and there are multiple casualties after a knifeman went on a stabbing rampage in a Chinese takeaway today.
The horrifying attacks unfolded in Ynyswen, near Treorchy, Rhondda Cynon Taf, south Wales as the public were warned to stay away.
The public were warned to "stay away" from the village by police today.
Around 20 to 30 emergency vehicles rushed to Baglan Street in the village amid reports of a stabbing.
South Wales Police said they were dealing with a "serious incident" which involved a "number of casualties".
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 20:28:13 GMT
In small town Vetlanda, Sweden, as well this week.
A young guy from Afghanistan ran around stabbing 8 people in total in different places there, before the police arrived in 15 mins and managed to shoot him down to the ground.
In court today he screamed he didn't even know why he was there. I guess he will blame it on insanity to avoid prison.
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 5, 2021 20:28:39 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 20:43:47 GMT
All those involved knew each other not terrorist related.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 5, 2021 20:55:02 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2021 21:07:25 GMT
The death penalty definitely still has a place in this country.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 21:14:29 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. It takes some special sort of barbarian to stab another person to death in peacetime, it's a growing issue that this government has to start addressing in a meaningful way, anyone carrying knives etc without good reason in public should be locked up for a minimum of ten years.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Mar 5, 2021 21:22:47 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. It’s the mentality these days sadly, the days of having disagreements which sometimes ended in a scrap and a handshake are long gone, someone has to die now.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 5, 2021 21:23:13 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. You ask a simple question Metal, but the most important one. How have we got to this point in this country? Why? Potentially it could be any young person, someone's child. No matter what the circumstances, she didn't deserve to die. And it's as though " we" can't do anything about it.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 21:29:23 GMT
The death penalty definitely still has a place in this country. If that is what it takes then so be it, let's put it to a referendum if the evidence is cast iron the rope should be the only price as it should with convicted terrorists and paedophiles, we are far too soft on these scum pond dwelling creatures.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 5, 2021 21:30:28 GMT
The death penalty definitely still has a place in this country. If that is what it takes then so be it, let's put it to a referendum if the evidence is cast iron the rope should be the only price as it should with convicted terrorists and paedophiles, we are far too soft on these scum pond dwelling creatures. Indeed!
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Post by butlerstbob on Mar 5, 2021 21:45:48 GMT
The death penalty definitely still has a place in this country. Well if the death penalty isn't the answer to murder with a knife then I don't know what is! And as Big John says what else can we do?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 21:51:40 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. It’s the mentality these days sadly, the days of having disagreements which sometimes ended in a scrap and a handshake are long gone, someone has to die now. The judicial system, civil rights lizards along with the bleeding heart brigade are responsible for the growing lawlessness we see in our country, we are far too tolerant with these heathen criminals it has to change now before it becomes that common place it's an acceptable part of life in the UK, if these heathens want to drag us back to the middle ages let the sentences reflect it.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 5, 2021 21:58:30 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. It takes some special sort of barbarian to stab another person to death in peacetime, it's a growing issue that this government has to start addressing in a meaningful way, anyone carrying knives etc without good reason in public should be locked up for a minimum of ten years. Theresa May really didn't like the police, she's a lot to answer for.... www.gov.uk/government/news/stop-and-search-theresa-may-announces-reform-of-police-stop-and-search
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 21:59:48 GMT
I'm not surprised, not a tiny little bit. It's all very expected. It was all around the news in 2010.
Where I live they have installed guards walking the streets. I suppose they're armed in some way. In the middle of the city.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 5, 2021 22:06:48 GMT
The death penalty definitely still has a place in this country. Well if the death penalty isn't the answer to murder with a knife then I don't know what is! And as Big John says what else can we do? As a principle I've always been against the death penalty. I still want to be. I don't really want to be put in a position that a civilised society decides to take someone's life. BUT I cannot offer a better strategy towards a solution. If my son or daughter had been murdered, would I have wished that the perpetrator had already been put to death. When I studied the law, the argument was that there were 4 aims of sentencing/ justice/.....a deterrent, a punishment/ payback to society, a protection of society, reform of the offender. In this complicated world , I ask myself, could executing someone who has been proven beyond doubt to have murdered, be such a bad thing WHEN potentially it could save more lives....through deterrent or by taking away the chance of reoffending. Whatever we are doing now isn't working. Some will point to the Timothy Evans case, the risk of executing the innocent or point to the fact that the death penalty does not work in America........but perhaps it would here. Perhaps Carps is right, after all the vast vast majority of us would not comtemplate stabbing someone.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 5, 2021 22:07:13 GMT
Chicken May living up to her billing, we need someone like Priti to take the bull by the horns, we are far too busy dancing around the herd of Elephants that have assembled in the room time has come to cull them once and for all.
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 22:23:13 GMT
Well if the death penalty isn't the answer to murder with a knife then I don't know what is! And as Big John says what else can we do? As a principle I've always been against the death penalty. I still want to be. Some will point --- to the fact that the death penalty does not work in America....but perhaps it would here. I'm against the death penalty nowadays. There's a better solution. I don't see how someone can say it doesn't work, though. How many of the executed criminals have ever commited a crime again? Please tell me!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 5, 2021 22:29:07 GMT
As a principle I've always been against the death penalty. I still want to be. Some will point --- to the fact that the death penalty does not work in America....but perhaps it would here. I'm against the death penalty nowadays. There's a better solution. I don't see how someone can say it doesn't work, though. How many of the executed criminals have ever commited a crime again? Please tell me! That's it though Music.....what actually is the better solution? I'm sure most of us can envisage a society in which no one stabs, murders, shoots or beats others up. Most of us on the Oatcake would not do that. Do we really want to live amongst those who are capable of stabbing ?
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Post by musik on Mar 5, 2021 22:31:53 GMT
I'm against the death penalty nowadays. There's a better solution. I don't see how someone can say it doesn't work, though. How many of the executed criminals have ever commited a crime again? Please tell me! That's it though Music.....what actually is the better solution? I'm sure most of us can envisage a society in which no one stabs, murders, shoots or beats others up. Most of us on the Oatcake would not do that. Do we really want to live amongst those who are capable of stabbing ? Keep them alive. No easy way out. In fact, many of those are doing these attacks just to be shot to death themselves by the police. To be seen as heroes.
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Post by metalhead on Mar 5, 2021 22:40:44 GMT
What makes people believe that it's ok to go and attack someone with a knife? Horrific. You ask a simple question Metal, but the most important one. How have we got to this point in this country? Why? Potentially it could be any young person, someone's child. No matter what the circumstances, she didn't deserve to die. And it's as though " we" can't do anything about it. Well, we have to do something about it mate. This can't continue. It's truly a terrible waste of life when someone dies like this. What kind of punishment do people get if they're just carrying a knife on the streets? If it's anything less than 10 years, we've got a problem.
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Post by Boothen on Mar 6, 2021 5:31:01 GMT
We used to carry knives all the time as kids, even took them to school. Hell, even the teachers used to ask if anyone had a knife handy that they could borrow to prise something open. Can remember loads of fights at school too, can't remember anyone ever getting stabbed though. Although this was before the government banned all from of punishment in school and started to reward bad behaviour by sending those kids away on little camping holidays to the Welsh countryside. And punishment outside of school stopped being actual punishment and became ASBOs and lefty counselling sessions.
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