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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 24, 2021 22:29:31 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga.  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 24, 2021 22:32:51 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga. A fully fit and functioning Gunn is better than Davies. Bursik you hadn't a clue about before the season started Matondo is shit and not a replacement in any way, shape or form for Gregory Clarke is rubbish. RND is a decent player and was the one player you could say had a decent game tonight. Given Fox has been fit for 2 games in 3 months, RND is a decent signing so far. The loan signings, Gunn aside, are gambles on young players that we hope can make a difference. It hasn't worked at all. We certainly wouldn't be any worse off had we not signed any of them on loan but I still maintain, but for injury, Gunn would have been an excellent acquisition. I don't understand why he's playing at the moment when he clearly isn't fit/fully recovered from is ankle injury. Problem is it is the attacking players that really make a difference and the 2 we hung our hat on are both hopeless. |
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Post by stokemark on Feb 24, 2021 22:35:06 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga. A fully fit and functioning Gunn is better than Davies. Bursik you hadn't a clue about before the season started Matondo is shit and not a replacement in any way, shape or form for Gregory Clarke is rubbish. RND is a decent player and was the one player you could say had a decent game tonight. The loan signings, Gunn aside, are gambles on young players that we hope can make a difference. It hasn't worked at all. We certainly wouldn't be any worse off had we not signed any of them on loan but I still maintain, but for injury, Gunn would have been an excellent acquisition. I don't understand why he's playing at the moment when he clearly isn't fit/fully recovered from is ankle injury. Problem is it is the attacking players that really make a difference and the 2 we hung our hat on are both hopeless. Gunn is NOT better than Davies in any way, shape or form |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 24, 2021 22:37:21 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga. Clarke can be a decent acquisition, put him on the right instead of Brown!!! And although Norrington-Davies is a decent player, I get what you're saying Albert!!! The rest, I don't see the point??? I'm still struggling with letting Gregory go out to Derby, that's a proper head-scratcher that one!!! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 24, 2021 22:37:36 GMT
A fully fit and functioning Gunn is better than Davies. Bursik you hadn't a clue about before the season started Matondo is shit and not a replacement in any way, shape or form for Gregory Clarke is rubbish. RND is a decent player and was the one player you could say had a decent game tonight. The loan signings, Gunn aside, are gambles on young players that we hope can make a difference. It hasn't worked at all. We certainly wouldn't be any worse off had we not signed any of them on loan but I still maintain, but for injury, Gunn would have been an excellent acquisition. I don't understand why he's playing at the moment when he clearly isn't fit/fully recovered from is ankle injury. Problem is it is the attacking players that really make a difference and the 2 we hung our hat on are both hopeless. Gunn is NOT better than Davies in any way, shape or form Davies did well coming into the team. Of that there is no doubt. Gunn is the better of the 2 though in my opinion but Gunn wouldn't be in my starting 11 right now. He isn't recovered for injury and it is just odd that he's in the side. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 24, 2021 22:38:42 GMT
I disagree about Gunn, he looks hesitant, he flaps doesn't command his area as well as Davies and his kicking isn't great. If he can save a penalty or 2 I'd have a slight change of mind about him but I doubt he will. As for Bursik - no one really had a clue about good he is but we do now, in any case he would have only been our sub keeper, being used in cup matches against lower league opposition so we could take a look at how he was progressing. Gregory had energy and a goal or 2 in his locker, we should have 100% not let him go out on loan. Gouranga. |
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Post by senojbor on Feb 24, 2021 22:41:39 GMT
Bursik is better than Davis and Gunn but whatever we have a sizable squad but I'm baffled at his team selections.
He see's something in Brown and Volkes that no one else sees. They're conference players at best
Surely with the backing we have better players could be brought into the club.
The loan players are worse than what we already have
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2021 22:53:14 GMT
RND was an abomination tonight I thought. He was all over the place.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 24, 2021 22:55:48 GMT
I like Clarke, he needs to start every game, its the only way he'll get into his stride.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2021 22:57:04 GMT
I like Clarke, he needs to start every game, its the only way he'll get into his stride. Yeah don’t get why he’s been dropped at all. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 24, 2021 23:13:41 GMT
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Post by bucknall67 on Feb 24, 2021 23:13:44 GMT
I like Clarke, he needs to start every game, its the only way he'll get into his stride. Yeah don’t get why he’s been dropped at all. Didn't he have a niggle? Hence why he didn't start at the weekend? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2021 23:15:00 GMT
Yeah don’t get why he’s been dropped at all. Didn't he have a niggle? Hence why he didn't start at the weekend? He was on the bench wasn’t he? Suggests he was fit enough to be playing? |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 24, 2021 23:21:30 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga. A fully fit and functioning Gunn is better than Davies. Bursik you hadn't a clue about before the season started Matondo is shit and not a replacement in any way, shape or form for Gregory Clarke is rubbish. RND is a decent player and was the one player you could say had a decent game tonight. Given Fox has been fit for 2 games in 3 months, RND is a decent signing so far. The loan signings, Gunn aside, are gambles on young players that we hope can make a difference. It hasn't worked at all. We certainly wouldn't be any worse off had we not signed any of them on loan but I still maintain, but for injury, Gunn would have been an excellent acquisition. I don't understand why he's playing at the moment when he clearly isn't fit/fully recovered from is ankle injury. Problem is it is the attacking players that really make a difference and the 2 we hung our hat on are both hopeless. not sure how you can rate Gunn above Davies or Bursik, seems to lack confidence and as we saw with Jack , no good in a keeper, Davies was great before injury and must be pissed off . i would be |
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Post by bucknall67 on Feb 24, 2021 23:21:59 GMT
Didn't he have a niggle? Hence why he didn't start at the weekend? He was on the bench wasn’t he? Suggests he was fit enough to be playing? But not too start. I believe it was on the team news thread. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2021 23:22:58 GMT
He was on the bench wasn’t he? Suggests he was fit enough to be playing? But not too start. I believe it was on the team news thread. I’ve never bought that. If you’re fit enough for the bench you’re fit enough to start especially if you played in the game before. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 23:23:28 GMT
If we are regretting the loan of Gregory we are in a right mess
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 24, 2021 23:24:31 GMT
The wingers are both too lightweight so far .
like the left back ,
Gunn ok in an injury crisis , no idea why he is playing now .
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Post by tosh on Feb 24, 2021 23:43:33 GMT
The wingers are both too lightweight so far . like the left back , Gunn ok in an injury crisis , no idea why he is playing now . Especially as Davies is our player and Gunn is not, and we will probably soon be having to rely on Davis as first choice. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 24, 2021 23:49:32 GMT
Didn't he have a niggle? Hence why he didn't start at the weekend? He was on the bench wasn’t he? Suggests he was fit enough to be playing? There is such a thing as being fit enough to play 45 mins (or a proportion of a game) but not a full 90 isn't there? Allen was an example of that tonight surely, because if he had been deemed to be fully fit he would have definitely have played |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 24, 2021 23:51:44 GMT
If we are regretting the loan of Gregory we are in a right mess Exactly, Rooney pulled him off after 45 minutes last night. I'd say we are in a bit of a mess, but not the Greek Tragedy that some are making out. |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 25, 2021 0:03:52 GMT
I like Clarke, he needs to start every game, its the only way he'll get into his stride. Yeah don’t get why he’s been dropped at all. After that 2nd goal tonight I'm not sure he'll be playing in the next game, the way he got knocked off the ball was pretty pathetic. Same thing happened with him about a minute before that as well trying to dribble his way through trouble going towards his own goal. He's a talent player but another one with no common sense and not very much conviction. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 25, 2021 0:22:26 GMT
Yeah don’t get why he’s been dropped at all. After that 2nd goal tonight I'm not sure he'll be playing in the next game, the way he got knocked off the ball was pretty pathetic. Same thing happened with him about a minute before that as well trying to dribble his way through trouble going towards his own goal. He's a talent player but another one with no common sense and not very much conviction. He’s young and learning. No doubt Jacob run a lot but is a competition winner Brown will start the next game.’ He’s moving up there with the worst signings of the last 5 years. |
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 7:06:39 GMT
If we are regretting the loan of Gregory we are in a right mess Last night confirmed that. |
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 7:08:43 GMT
The wingers are both too lightweight so far . like the left back , Gunn ok in an injury crisis , no idea why he is playing now . Piss poor management is why he is playing. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 25, 2021 7:25:41 GMT
Not sure I get the point of this thread to be honest. We needed them to give the squad some numbers, but it’s clear that most of them are risks taken for relatively little outlay. The one I do have an issue with is Gunn, but at the time of his signing Bursik wasn’t even on the radar. I’d be looking to cut that 18month loan deal off at the end of this season.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 25, 2021 7:31:10 GMT
If we are regretting the loan of Gregory we are in a right mess Exactly, Rooney pulled him off after 45 minutes last night.  |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 25, 2021 7:39:08 GMT
Exactly, Rooney pulled him off after 45 minutes last night. Another member of the #dirtyandproud crew. Respect. |
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Post by musik on Feb 25, 2021 7:45:46 GMT
The loan players are here because we can't have a 18 players squad.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 25, 2021 7:52:40 GMT
Gunn, no better than Bursik and definitely worse than Davies. Matondo, we let Gregory go out on loan and ended up with this lad, injured but has hardly made an impact. RND, looks a decent LB but when Fox is back we won't need him and we could have kept Lyndsay and played him on the left of the defence, it's hardly as if we're marauding down the wings delivering crosses at every opportunity. Clarke, MON doesn't seem to trust him and again he looks lightweight and inexperienced, certainly no better than Tymon or McClean, even Thompson can play on the left. After watching the pile of shite delivered up tonight I'm pretty sure we'd be no worse off without any of the loan signings. Gouranga. We needed goalkeeping cover. Bursik needs games as his shops topping from distance is poor. Without RND, we would have had no cover for Fix, Lindsay is an awful CB and way too slow for LB Clarke looks promising to me, he created 2 goals that Fletcher managed to get offside for which is second only to Powell in creativity. Tymon will never be a wide attacker in a million years. We tried Thompson wide last year and it was hopeless Gregory is hopeless, no pace, not that good in the air and a dreadful finisher. Matondo is clearly a poor choice on what we have seen so far But presumably as a calculated gamble they are not costing as much as Mikel, Batth and Vokes. Our problem is not a couple of loanees but the players we have and the ones we have out on loan - we are spending at least 40% of our playing budget paying for players who are not in our team. Add in the expensive rubbish I mentioned plus Shawcross’ wages this season and half our money this season has gone to waste. That is why we have the loanees we do |
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