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Post by a on Feb 23, 2021 17:01:35 GMT
This Notice Board makes me smile. Last week we had a looking over our shoulders thread, which may well return after the Brentford game , including a moronic MON out thread probably. I know, it’ll be doom and gloom after the next loss don’t worry 😂
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GarySCFC
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Post by GarySCFC on Feb 23, 2021 17:05:52 GMT
Imagine if tyrese was miraculously back for the final 😲
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Post by Sfance on Feb 23, 2021 17:25:30 GMT
No harm in dreaming. And yes, it would be good if we could get there and hopefully the powers-that-be will have learned from bitter experience. However, because we've thrown away so many winnable points, it's unlikely. We now have to depend not only on winning difficult games but the teams above us losing more than us. Still, we'll see what happens tomorrow - three more points would definitely be a step in the right direction.
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Post by wrighter on Feb 23, 2021 17:39:03 GMT
This Notice Board makes me smile. Last week we had a looking over our shoulders thread, which may well return after the Brentford game , including a moronic MON out thread probably. I know, it’ll be doom and gloom after the next loss don’t worry 😂 tell me about it 2 wins its the play offs 2 defeats its relegation fears
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Post by wrighter on Feb 23, 2021 17:40:49 GMT
think you"ll find Sheffield United. Fulham, & WBA spent very little on their promoted team, and look where they are now ? yes, i would like another year in the Championship, to let our younger players a chance to prove themselves, and gain experience before being asked to play against world class players. a point i was trying make also is a couple of defeats and the grim reapers are out in force, saying we are slowly being drawn into a relegation fight, but then 2 wins on the bounce and then we get talk of play offs. you just cant make it up on here I think you have proved my point. If you don't spend after promotion you won't do well. i bow to your superior knowledge Sir
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Post by thehoof on Feb 23, 2021 18:00:48 GMT
We won’t make the play offs this season.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 23, 2021 21:53:24 GMT
Thanks for the replies but my point is we could all possibly go to Wembley to watch Stoke in the play off final. Surely this is extra motivation for MON and the team. Do I think we're ready - no. Do I think we'll do it - no. However we can all dream of making that trip to Wembley and seeing Stoke play for the first time in 15 months with the possibility of promotion to the Premiership. Goaarrnnn Stoke! Gouranga. Do you think you'll get one of the 5000 tickets we would be allocated? If we were to get to a play-off final, we would be playing at a Wembley stadium with a capacity of only 10,000 fans. I'd stand as much chance as anyone, even more if I camped outside the ticket office for a couple of weeks Gouranga.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:30:29 GMT
Do you think you'll get one of the 5000 tickets we would be allocated? If we were to get to a play-off final, we would be playing at a Wembley stadium with a capacity of only 10,000 fans. I'd stand as much chance as anyone, even more if I camped outside the ticket office for a couple of weeks Gouranga. Did you have an ID Card? Were you at Gillingham when they beat us 4-0? Or millwall when they beat us with 9? Or Norwich when we won en route to promotion? Or Sunderland when seb svard scored, or even the day we got relegated whilst wearing that lovely white and blue away kit? Unless you have those things on your cv, are prepared to camp outside ticket office for a month, are on the supporters council or on Tony Scholes christmas card list, you won't be going
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:31:59 GMT
I'd stand as much chance as anyone, even more if I camped outside the ticket office for a couple of weeks Gouranga. Did you have an ID Card? Were you at Gillingham when they beat us 4-0? Or millwall when they beat us with 9? Or Norwich when we won en route to promotion? Or Sundetland when seb svard scored? If you have those things on your cv, are prepared to camp outside ticket office for a month, are on the supporters council or on Tony Scholes christmas card list, you won't be going Don’t forget about the Plat Plus🤣and the Colchester 500
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:34:16 GMT
Did you have an ID Card? Were you at Gillingham when they beat us 4-0? Or millwall when they beat us with 9? Or Norwich when we won en route to promotion? Or Sundetland when seb svard scored? If you have those things on your cv, are prepared to camp outside ticket office for a month, are on the supporters council or on Tony Scholes christmas card list, you won't be going Don’t forget about the Plat Plus🤣and the Colchester 500 Oh yeah. I was in the colchester 500 but refused the plat+ card in a principled stand against that particular "buy your priority" scheme.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:36:27 GMT
Don’t forget about the Plat Plus🤣and the Colchester 500 Oh yeah. I was in the colchester 500 but refused the plat+ card in a principled stand against that particular "buy your priority" scheme. Yes me too but sadly I was a “plat plus ponce” as Momo used to call us 🤣🤣
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:38:11 GMT
Oh yeah. I was in the colchester 500 but refused the plat+ card in a principled stand against that particular "buy your priority" scheme. Yes me too but sadly I was “plat plus ponce” as Momo used to call us 🤣🤣 I remember that MCF was a big advocate of the scheme and revelled in buying privileges
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 23, 2021 22:39:14 GMT
I'd stand as much chance as anyone, even more if I camped outside the ticket office for a couple of weeks Gouranga. Did you have an ID Card? Were you at Gillingham when they beat us 4-0? Or millwall when they beat us with 9? Or Norwich when we won en route to promotion? Or Sunderland when seb svard scored, or even the day we got relegated whilst wearing that lovely white and blue away kit? Unless you have those things on your cv, are prepared to camp outside ticket office for a month, are on the supporters council or on Tony Scholes christmas card list, you won't be going I've got some very interesting pictures I've doctored discovered involving the hierarchy at Stoke and a few dodgy people which might get me a bit of favour if not I also have a Dracula mask and a long beige coat so I can masquerade as Peter Coates, no one will know the difference. Gouranga.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:42:02 GMT
Yes me too but sadly I was “plat plus ponce” as Momo used to call us 🤣🤣 I remember that MCF was a big advocate of the scheme and revelled in buying privileges That 1st game at Grimsby with the ID cards with Mills and Iwelumo up front😮😮2-0 defeat with about 600 Stokies having to show bastard cards
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Post by samba :) on Feb 23, 2021 22:46:12 GMT
3,000 to 4,000 fans each inside wembley do we reckon?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 22:46:55 GMT
I remember that MCF was a big advocate of the scheme and revelled in buying privileges That 1st game at Grimsby with the ID cards with Mills and Iwelumo up front😮😮2-0 defeat with about 600 Stokies having to show bastard cards i remember the mass exodus at Forest as so many Stoke fans were in the Brian Clough stand. think we were 5 down and some Forest fans were baffled. 5-0 up and some still aren't happy etc comments not realising we needed ID cards and in the home section etc. Oddly that hammering turned our season around
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:49:02 GMT
That 1st game at Grimsby with the ID cards with Mills and Iwelumo up front😮😮2-0 defeat with about 600 Stokies having to show bastard cards i remember the mass exodus at Forest as so many Stoke fans were in the Brian Clough stand. think we were 5 down and some Forest fans were baffled. 5-0 up and some still aren't happy etc comments not realising we needed ID cards and in the home section etc. Oddly that hammering turned our season around It did mate with Uriah Rennie sending Martinsson off as well in that game followed by probably the shittest 1-0 win on the Wednesday after against Walsall with not a lot there
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 22:51:57 GMT
i remember the mass exodus at Forest as so many Stoke fans were in the Brian Clough stand. think we were 5 down and some Forest fans were baffled. 5-0 up and some still aren't happy etc comments not realising we needed ID cards and in the home section etc. Oddly that hammering turned our season around It did mate with Uriah Rennie sending Martinsson off as well in that game followed by probably the shittest 1-0 win on the Wednesday after against Walsall with not a lot there Handball wasn't it? Old Forest fan sat next to me was totally confused by the reaction of the fans around him Groans etc when they scored
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 22:59:52 GMT
It did mate with Uriah Rennie sending Martinsson off as well in that game followed by probably the shittest 1-0 win on the Wednesday after against Walsall with not a lot there Handball wasn't it? Old Forest fan sat next to me was totally confused by the reaction of the fans around him Groans etc when they scored Yes it was but I seem to remember it was a bad decision.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2021 23:09:53 GMT
Handball wasn't it? Old Forest fan sat next to me was totally confused by the reaction of the fans around him Groans etc when they scored Yes it was but I seem to remember it was a bad decision. Was a bit like the one we got at Tranmere with the angry commentator. hit his arm, was on target but nothing he could do about it. Think Harewood got a hat trick and David johnson his usual goals against us. Tidy forward line they had. Tthere was a clamour on here for Martieinsson to play, went all Verlinden for a while but Pulis never took to him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 23, 2021 23:15:36 GMT
Yes it was but I seem to remember it was a bad decision. Was a bit like the one we got at Tranmere with the angry commentator. hit his arm, was on target but nothing he could do about it. Think Harewood got a hat trick and David johnson his usual goals against us. Tidy forward line they had. Tthere was a clamour on here for Martieinsson to play, went all Verlinden for a while but Pulis never took to him. He never trusted him did he and I suppose he was the same with Hoefkens.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2021 23:23:36 GMT
I remember that MCF was a big advocate of the scheme and revelled in buying privileges That 1st game at Grimsby with the ID cards with Mills and Iwelumo up front😮😮2-0 defeat with about 600 Stokies having to show bastard cards Was there. We were 1-0 before we'd finished our fish and chips
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 23, 2021 23:25:27 GMT
That 1st game at Grimsby with the ID cards with Mills and Iwelumo up front😮😮2-0 defeat with about 600 Stokies having to show bastard cards i remember the mass exodus at Forest as so many Stoke fans were in the Brian Clough stand. think we were 5 down and some Forest fans were baffled. 5-0 up and some still aren't happy etc comments not realising we needed ID cards and in the home section etc. Oddly that hammering turned our season around I was thrown out just before half time for abusing Wayne Thomas and Steve Banks. Begged the coppers to take my ID card off me as Ipswich away was next and I was daft enough to go.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 23, 2021 23:54:26 GMT
If I'm honest, I'd be happy to write this season off now, finish a respectable top half place, strengthen in the summer, and go all out for promotion next season!!!
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Post by kustokie on Feb 24, 2021 2:55:01 GMT
This is a very unpredictable league and just about anything is possible. At the end of last season, we knocked Brentford out of automatic promotion and they lost in the playoffs. Then we knocked Forest out of the playoffs in the last game of the season. So I wouldn’t rule anything out. We are miles away from being competitive in the premier league, but finishing bottom next season will be better financially than staying where we are because we’ll avoid potential FFP penalties as well as receiving much needed injection of cash from television, sponsorship and advertising, and three more years of parachute money. Our chances will be greatly improved if we can get 4 or 6 points from the next two games. Anything less and it will be very difficult.
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Post by mattythestokie on Feb 24, 2021 6:11:56 GMT
I think our run of games are just too hard to pick up enough points from.
Barnsley (10th) Brentford (2nd) Swansea (4th) Middlesbrough (8th) Cardiff (7th)
All those in our next 6 games. We had a lot of ‘easy’ games in our run of 1 win in 15. I think it will be too much for us to get a good enough return to be in with a shout at the end of play against Cardiff.
Hopefully this post comes back to bite me on the arse.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 24, 2021 6:55:04 GMT
Last time we got promoted it was with a record low number of points and we had a starting XI that included Carl Dickinson, Leon Cort and Richard Cresswell. Nothing against those players- they all played their part, but no-one could argue that they're Premier League players in a million years. We probably weren't ready last time either, but overachieved and then look what happened!
I've said all season that the top 5 teams are better than anyone else by some distance (I didn't factor in Bournemouth's implosion) and that one very average team is going to take that 6th spot. As it stands, we could see two very average teams making it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 7:01:40 GMT
There's a lot of ifs and buts, but no one would turn down promotion if it happened, i.e. deliberatedly lose matches to avoid the expected humiliation of the next season.
Going up, then going down works for some clubs, such as Norwich.
Moreover you should never nay promotion, because there might not be a second chance for the next thirty years, and our quality players might not want to stay around if promotion doesn't happen or seem likely to.
So we should go for it, if at all possible.
If not we should definitely continue to look over our shoulders. This is not a division where you just sit back and accept midtable position about slightly more than halfway.
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 24, 2021 7:04:53 GMT
Absolutely we shouldn't turn it down if we can grab it. Grab what you can and run in this game. A promotion, even if it ended in the most humiliating of relegations would be worth it for a reboot of the parachute payments and the chance to finally rid us of the players that are plaguing us right now. It would give us a genuine chance to set some strong foundations down in both the Academy and the first team.
At best, we could stay up and build in the PL.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2021 10:06:15 GMT
This is likely to be an extremely unpopular opinion but I think its quite important we don't. MON has done a fantastic job of turning this club around but my fear if we went up would that it would be a year too soon without the necessary squad structure in place to cope. Don't get me wrong ill celebrate like the best of them should it happen but I do think we would be much better placed with another two solid transfer windows behind our backs and another year in the championship before we push for promotion. Like I said , expecting this to get the 'absoloute bull' kind of replies but it's my thoughts on it As said in my other post we should go for it if the rest of the season works out in a way that we are within or very close to the play off zone, when there are, say, six games left. But it should not be a target for us, because the team structure and the players we have don't really constitute a promotion chasing team. Just the very fact that we haven't won a lot of back to back games exemplify that. The lack of a settled team is another example. Too many drawn games is another. The list could go on and on. In contrast not a lot can be said as to why we should get promoted, beyond we're not much wrose than most other teams this season. It should be a target in the sense that if we don't go up, then the season should be looked upon as abject failure. Whatever happens, it's not.
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