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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 13, 2021 21:52:26 GMT
Whether you’re for it or against it, it’s clearly having zero impact and never was. How about something a bit more educational than a load of overpaid fairies kneeling down for what’s now about 2 seconds without giving a second thought to racism? Disgraceful comment It’s true, most of these players are kneeling as a matter of habit now it seems to me. If we’re going to tackle racism why not come up with a properly thought out initiative and not some knee jerk reaction. Apologies if I’ve offended you
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2021 21:52:26 GMT
Got you. I’ve got to stage where I don’t really care any more about the knee so they can crack on if they want but like Brentford I just think it’s lost it’s effectiveness and that there are better ways of equality. But heh interpret it how you want. I will. Likewise
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Post by peterpan1 on Feb 13, 2021 21:53:25 GMT
At long last. The majority of Rugby players in the six nations have seen what a nonsense this has become.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2021 21:55:09 GMT
At long last. The majority of Rugby players in the six nations have seen what a nonsense this has become. Thoughts on that Sheik?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 13, 2021 21:55:28 GMT
I’m failing to see what is disgraceful about it at all To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment.
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Post by Cns on Feb 13, 2021 21:56:13 GMT
At long last. The majority of Rugby players in the six nations have seen what a nonsense this has become. Thoughts on that Sheik? Racists
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Post by christhepotter on Feb 13, 2021 21:57:36 GMT
BLM are more racist than those they protest about
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 13, 2021 21:58:07 GMT
He's triggered again doesn't like not getting his own way on here, sad really oh well. Go and mock a Veteran in a doorway. That's your style. Ok mate in it, you not busy tonight you could hand out all those unwanted BLM garments you produced to the homeless, they shouldn't be thrown in the bin with your UK socialist political dreams bro.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 13, 2021 21:59:34 GMT
It’s true, most of these players are kneeling as a matter of habit now it seems to me. If we’re going to tackle racism why not come up with a properly thought out initiative and not some knee jerk reaction. Apologies if I’ve offended you Maybe taking a stance instead of taking a knee would be more productive, social media being the first port of call.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 13, 2021 22:00:54 GMT
One has to question the thought process behind 'at long last'.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Feb 13, 2021 22:01:20 GMT
BLM the political organisation is such a minuscule group and not taken seriously by anybody with broadly similar politics to them.
It's the right and often the far right that paint them out to be some 'marxists'. If you think these footballers have been reading Karl Marx you're a moron.
The message makes people uncomfortable because it hits a nerve
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 13, 2021 22:01:52 GMT
I’m failing to see what is disgraceful about it at all To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment. No, it doesn’t. It just means the knee causing more discrimination than before. Stop being so dramatic.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 13, 2021 22:01:56 GMT
I’m failing to see what is disgraceful about it at all To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment. There’s more and more black players and officials coming out and saying pretty much what I’ve said, I agree with them. Racism needs to be tackled with proper education and not just a token gesture. I don’t see what’s disgraceful about that?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 13, 2021 22:04:36 GMT
To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment. There’s more and more black players and officials coming out and saying pretty much what I’ve said, I agree with them. Racism needs to be tackled with proper education and not just a token gesture. I don’t see what’s disgraceful about that? Oh the old Education line. We'll sort it out in 20 years. Until then, just swallow it for fucks sake.
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Post by Cns on Feb 13, 2021 22:04:56 GMT
I’m failing to see what is disgraceful about it at all To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment. ❄️
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 13, 2021 22:05:26 GMT
To suggest that players or fairies as he puts it, doing it without any commitment to the message, both diminishes the racism currently rampant in the game and the genuine distress felt by black players and the solidarity of their colleagues. Disgraceful comment. ❄️ House.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 13, 2021 22:09:40 GMT
BLM the political organisation is such a minuscule group and not taken seriously by anybody with broadly similar politics to them. It's the right and often the far right that paint them out to be some 'marxists'. If you think these footballers have been reading Karl Marx you're a moron. The message makes people uncomfortable because it hits a nerve It makes people uncomfortable because if they don’t agree with it they get accused of being racist. Creating more division
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 13, 2021 22:10:46 GMT
There’s more and more black players and officials coming out and saying pretty much what I’ve said, I agree with them. Racism needs to be tackled with proper education and not just a token gesture. I don’t see what’s disgraceful about that? Oh the old Education line. We'll sort it out in 20 years. Until then, just swallow it for fucks sake. OK what’s your answer? Kneeling before every game till the end of time? That’ll show em. Of course education is key but someone needs to grab it by the bollocks and it’ll take someone with balls and brains to get this thing going. Unfortunately it seems nobody has come forward yet. I’m not getting into a petty argument with you, I agree with the nuts and bolts of it, it’s just not working as it stands.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Feb 13, 2021 22:11:27 GMT
There’s more and more black players and officials coming out and saying pretty much what I’ve said, I agree with them. Racism needs to be tackled with proper education and not just a token gesture. I don’t see what’s disgraceful about that? Oh the old Education line. We'll sort it out in 20 years. Until then, just swallow it for fucks sake. That’s not what he said ? Again, you’re being dramatic
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 22:13:44 GMT
Good. Fuck it off, completely pointless and meaningless gesture. Half the fuckers are only doing it because they've "got to".
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Post by a on Feb 13, 2021 22:13:46 GMT
“No longer”? Could’ve saved characters on the tweet by omitting those words Edit: or rather replace it with “it has no impact” Maybe they should do something else, another stance or gesture see if that works. One idea would be to make teams play behind closed doors if they don’t bring their own response in when it can be proved that there has been racist chants etc during a game. Hit them in the pockets
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2021 22:16:29 GMT
It's certainly having no impact. The abuse of black players by neanderthal shit dripping cunt wipes is at an all time high. I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.”
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Post by a on Feb 13, 2021 22:20:12 GMT
It's certainly having no impact. The abuse of black players by neanderthal shit dripping cunt wipes is at an all time high. I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.” Would be interesting to see what they decide to do, accept it or do something about it
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Post by devondumpling on Feb 13, 2021 22:20:44 GMT
It's certainly having no impact. The abuse of black players by neanderthal shit dripping cunt wipes is at an all time high. I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.” Don't we all. The best way is just to ignore his efforts to shock and cram as many swear words into a sentence. He can go argue with himself.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 13, 2021 22:22:03 GMT
It's certainly having no impact. The abuse of black players by neanderthal shit dripping cunt wipes is at an all time high. I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.” You are only offended if you are part of the the increasing wave of abhorrent racist abuse of young black footballers. Are you or are you pretending to be offended?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 13, 2021 22:23:16 GMT
I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.” Would be interesting to see what they decide to do, accept it or do something about it 🤣
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 13, 2021 22:23:36 GMT
Oh the old Education line. We'll sort it out in 20 years. Until then, just swallow it for fucks sake. That’s not what he said ? Again, you’re being dramatic As usual proper trot drama queen.
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Post by a on Feb 13, 2021 22:25:54 GMT
Would be interesting to see what they decide to do, accept it or do something about it 🤣 At least you’ve cheered up now, that’s better 😉
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 13, 2021 22:29:09 GMT
I’m trying to work out what admin mean by this “We reserve the right to remove any post that we consider abusive and/or offensive and disable any account for abusive behaviour.” You are only offended if you are part of the the increasing wave of abhorrent racist abuse of young black footballers. Are you or are you pretending to be offended? I’m not offended personally but it’s not all about me. I’m sure there’s plenty who are. There must be lots of kids who come on here with there parents to have a look around the site. I just don’t see the necessity of using such language to get a point across. Most people don’t. You could easily go with It's certainly having no impact. The abuse of black players by racists is at an all time high You think it’s cool then?
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 13, 2021 22:29:43 GMT
I really don't think its about whether its working or not. This completely and utterly misses the point imo and is a very dumbed down interpretation of the reason it has come into being.
Taking the knee is a gesture, and a gesture could never cure a long standing, historical problem in society, no-one ever claimed it could or would. It doesn't, but that does not make it insignificant or unimportant for those participating in it. That wasn't its purpose.
Taking the knee is an experience that for those who do it has meaning, and where seeing others do it also has significant meaning.
It's not the same meaning for everyone obviously. But the reason why it seemed to have has resonated with so many footballers is that it was at least an acknowledgment of a problem and a symbolic gesture that says that there is at least a will to address a situation of imbalance. How this is then addressed is then important.
I think it is incredibly disrespectful to dismiss it. It was a choice of players, if they now choose to not pursue this strategy that should be equally respected, I think its incredibly sad if people somehow start to interpret this has some kind of victory. The player's who have engaged in this and felt it necessary to do so deserve so much, much more respect. I would urge people to at least consider giving this respect.
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