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Post by a on Feb 20, 2021 18:04:42 GMT
Hes definitely a duracell bunny He is like bull in China shop. He needs to keep his cool though in all seriousness, I like the lad a lot, proper meat and gravy player but could attract more than a few cards |
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Post by onionman on Feb 20, 2021 18:07:15 GMT
Makes a huge difference to have a proper footballer with energy out wide.
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Post by BuzzB on Feb 20, 2021 18:08:07 GMT
I would love us to sign Noz permanently, my kind of full back, he reminds me of Johhny Butler up and down that line, strong and quick and has a good football brain.
Now, MON, go and find a right hand side equivalent.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 20, 2021 18:11:45 GMT
I really like him.
He's a proper modern day fullback.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 20, 2021 18:13:40 GMT
I think he's great.
I'd love us to sign him. Hard to assess the chances. He's the type Sheff U will want to rebuild with and he has a long, new deal there - but they do have 2 or 3 left-sided options - Osborn, Lowe, Stevens
They won't want to give a helping hand to any promotion rivals either
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Post by jeycov on Feb 20, 2021 18:43:44 GMT
I think he's great. I'd love us to sign him. Hard to assess the chances. He's the type Sheff U will want to rebuild with and he has a long, new deal there - but they do have 2 or 3 left-sided options - Osborn, Lowe, Stevens They won't want to give a helping hand to any promotion rivals either Do you really think that Sheffield United will stay up  > |
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 20, 2021 18:54:58 GMT
I think he's great. I'd love us to sign him. Hard to assess the chances. He's the type Sheff U will want to rebuild with and he has a long, new deal there - but they do have 2 or 3 left-sided options - Osborn, Lowe, Stevens They won't want to give a helping hand to any promotion rivals either Do you really think that Sheffield United will stay up > They're 1/33 to drop - so doubtful! No doubt he'll be more than happy to stay there if they want to start him as their LB next season in the Champ. But they did buy Lowe from Derby for 3 or 4m last season and he isn't much older than RND. And they've also got Stevens who's been there for years. Only Wilder will know how open to it he'd be if we offered a reasonable fee? |
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Post by redwhitesingfight on Feb 20, 2021 23:27:00 GMT
Nozzer was superb today. Fearless.
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Post by callas12 on Feb 20, 2021 23:55:16 GMT
Experienced players that spend a season on loan away from their parent club are generally surplus to requirements & don't usually feature in long term plans..
Or am I judging this on our recent experiences of loaning squad players out on a continuous basis coz they're not wanted, eg Woods, Bauer, Wimmer, Ndiaye, Etebo, Afobe & now seemingly can add Gregory, Lindsay & possibly Edwards to that list!
I think if MoN fancies RND long term and the player himself is up for the move then it is a possibility so long as the Blades don't lose to many players after their inevitable relegation is confirmed.
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 21, 2021 0:19:31 GMT
Do you really think that Sheffield United will stay up > They're 1/33 to drop - so doubtful! No doubt he'll be more than happy to stay there if they want to start him as their LB next season in the Champ. But they did buy Lowe from Derby for 3 or 4m last season and he isn't much older than RND. And they've also got Stevens who's been there for years. Only Wilder will know how open to it he'd be if we offered a reasonable fee? Stevens is still their first choice LB, but he’ll be 31 by the start of next season. Lowe has flopped quite badly, so I’d say it’s between Osborn and RND to be their next LB. Osborn probably shades it, so I can’t see any reason why RND wouldn’t come back to us unless we have a stonking end to the season and it’s clear that RND was a part of that. Buying him outright will be a problem unless we can shift our deadwood again... or of course, if we get promoted! |
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Post by bgreen13 on Feb 21, 2021 0:57:57 GMT
Great player.
Gives his all for the team and technically sound.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 21, 2021 2:10:41 GMT
Reminds me a lot of Phil Bardsley actually, but better technically.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 21, 2021 8:18:49 GMT
Do you really think that Sheffield United will stay up > They're 1/33 to drop - so doubtful! No doubt he'll be more than happy to stay there if they want to start him as their LB next season in the Champ. But they did buy Lowe from Derby for 3 or 4m last season and he isn't much older than RND. And they've also got Stevens who's been there for years. Only Wilder will know how open to it he'd be if we offered a reasonable fee? No I don’t think they’ll stay up My comment implied that we may not be playing them next season though We have a very outside chance of replacing them 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 |
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Post by Championship Potter on Feb 21, 2021 8:25:15 GMT
Experienced players that spend a season on loan away from their parent club are generally surplus to requirements & don't usually feature in long term plans.. Or am I judging this on our recent experiences of loaning squad players out on a continuous basis coz they're not wanted, eg Woods, Bauer, Wimmer, Ndiaye, Etebo, Afobe & now seemingly can add Gregory, Lindsay & possibly Edwards to that list! I think if MoN fancies RND long term and the player himself is up for the move then it is a possibility so long as the Blades don't lose to many players after their inevitable relegation is confirmed. I think the fact that he was willing to make that unusual January move from Luton gives some hope. Don’t think he would have done that unless he saw an opportunity to stay here longer than this season (either on loan or permanent). |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 21, 2021 9:32:17 GMT
I really like him and his pace is so important in modern footall, but he needs to work on his crossing though! |
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Post by george2again on Feb 22, 2021 4:49:09 GMT
RND is a more modern version of a left back as he is much better than Fox going forward. He also possesses more pace and is better one on one. RND for me is the clear choice when both of them are fit or able to play, but Fox is certainly a decent player too.  He is a more modern version but he isn't our player, it doesn't look like he probably will be a player we own in the near future, Fox is a much better defender and Fox's crossing is better. I just don't see the point in playing RND to be honest. He’s a much better all round player. He has the Stoke aura about him that we love, aggression and passion. Much quicker and more mobile as well. Fox is a regulation left back, which is fine if you have a spark in other areas of the pitch which we don’t. |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 22, 2021 8:51:10 GMT
The best car for pandemics........a BUBBLE car!
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 22, 2021 9:25:30 GMT
Would really like to see him sign up permanently for us! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2021 9:26:23 GMT
He is a more modern version but he isn't our player, it doesn't look like he probably will be a player we own in the near future, Fox is a much better defender and Fox's crossing is better. I just don't see the point in playing RND to be honest. He’s a much better all round player. He has the Stoke aura about him that we love, aggression and passion. Much quicker and more mobile as well. Fox is a regulation left back, which is fine if you have a spark in other areas of the pitch which we don’t. I think he will be but I don’t think he is currently. He’s not a patch on Fox defensively for a start. And for all the good positions he got into on Saturday he put one good ball in. |
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 22, 2021 10:18:32 GMT
I'd play Nozzer over Fox every day of the week.
Fox's allegedly better defensive qualities just don't trump Nozzer's far better all round game, energy and fwd threat.
Agreed though - there would be massive doubts over us keeping hold of him. A piece in the Athletic tells you just how well thought of he is at Sheff. U.
And, given they are surely on the way down, no way will they let him stay at a rival next season.
Huge long shot but Plan A then, is to play him and hope he can help us get up and then there's an interesting decision for him to be made.
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Post by moon on Feb 22, 2021 12:41:17 GMT
Fox has been solid and I see no real reason to drop him, but see RND as the more exciting option and with Fox injured again he has a real chance to make that position his. They are both decent options for this league.
I doubt he will be here beyond this season but if it’s possible to make it permanent for a reasonable fee, or to get him on loan again next season then it’s a good option. We need at least two capable players in all positions, I doubt either of them would be content with a place on the bench though, they are both good enough to be starting every week in this league.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 22, 2021 12:48:11 GMT
Sadly, the only chance we'd have of signing him permanently would be is if we swapped leagues with Sheffield United, which is hugely unlikely.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2021 13:15:29 GMT
He does drive well with the ball.
But in terms of stats:
Assists - Fox 3 RND 0
Key passes per game - Fox 0.7 RND 0.4
Crosses per game - Fox 0.8 RND 0.2
Average passes per game - Fox 41.6 RND 35.4
Pass completion rate - Fox 65.5% RND 69.5%
Dribbles per game - Fox - 0.4 RND 0.6
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Post by brizzlestokie on Feb 22, 2021 13:24:58 GMT
Personally think it's hard to split Fox and RND overall, because they're such different left backs.
Athleticism - RND
Energy - RND
Defending - Fox
Crossing - Fox (which has surprised me tbh)
For those suggesting Clucas on the left in the other thread, I think that could work better with RND overlapping. If RND can improve his crossing he'd be such a good fullback.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 22, 2021 13:29:27 GMT
He’s a much better all round player. He has the Stoke aura about him that we love, aggression and passion. Much quicker and more mobile as well. Fox is a regulation left back, which is fine if you have a spark in other areas of the pitch which we don’t. I think he will be but I don’t think he is currently. He’s not a patch on Fox defensively for a start. And for all the good positions he got into on Saturday he put one good ball in. Fox wasn't exactly impressive defensively against Norwich!  I like Fox though, but to say he is superior to RND defensively is taking it a bit far I think. RND is certainly better one on one, and his pace makes him more of a threat going forward too. I agree his crossing against Luton was really shite though! |
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Post by lordb on Feb 22, 2021 13:30:17 GMT
He's only played a few games
lets see what we think in May
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 22, 2021 13:37:31 GMT
I think he will be but I don’t think he is currently. He’s not a patch on Fox defensively for a start. And for all the good positions he got into on Saturday he put one good ball in. Fox wasn't exactly impressive defensively against Norwich! I like Fox though, but to say he is superior to RND defensively is taking it a bit far I think. RND is certainly better one on one, and his pace makes him more of a threat going forward too. I agree his crossing against Luton was really shite though! He wasn't but he'd been out a while. I think RND has been pretty bad defensively tbh until Saturday. He's looked so naive. I think in time he will obviously become the better player because he has shown lots of good things. But he's not ours and I don't think he will be any time soon so I'm not that arsed with him. If we owned him then I would 100% want him to be playing so we can develop him. But he's not. |
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 22, 2021 13:39:07 GMT
He's only played a few games lets see what we think in May I’ll reserve judgment until I see him play against some good sides. |
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 22, 2021 13:50:20 GMT
So far for me he's flattered to deceive. On the face of it his attributes look good, yet he's not delivered much real quality, Vokes chance apart, certainly not as many good crosses as Fox. He might turn into a gem, but at present Fox is the more reliable option for me.
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 22, 2021 14:03:29 GMT
He does drive well with the ball. But in terms of stats: Assists - Fox 3 RND 0 Key passes per game - Fox 0.7 RND 0.4 Crosses per game - Fox 0.8 RND 0.2 Average passes per game - Fox 41.6 RND 35.4 Pass completion rate - Fox 65.5% RND 69.5% Dribbles per game - Fox - 0.4 RND 0.6 We all know stats are for twats* B.(especially when they don't back up your - or rather my - argument). Two things: Are the stats above apples and apples (same no of games each etc) & therefore a fair comparison? Even if they are, I couldn't give a monkeys, we look so much more threatening with Nozzer in the side to me. * Apols tachyon |
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I like Fox though, but to say he is superior to RND defensively is taking it a bit far I think. RND is certainly better one on one, and his pace makes him more of a threat going forward too. I agree his crossing against Luton was really shite though! 
