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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 17:53:55 GMT
Once a Potter, always a Potter. Especially when they're as potentially good as Imbula. He was being compared to Hudson when he made his entrance. Jennifer Hudson? GI was not liked by the players for his lack of enthusiasm and effort on and off the pitch. He could indeed speak ok english but chose not to. Shays dislike to him was shared by the players and staff alike. Absolutely no homework done on this guy before MH spunked 18 million on him. 1 day of looking into his past and attitude etc would have saved us a small fortune. Are you implying that Teflon Tony is a liar, all due diligence carried out, watch every potential signing 25 times etc. our record signing a total write off, the club is a laughing stock.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 26, 2021 18:01:48 GMT
And it "being a results business" as we often hear - he didn't have any.
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Post by Boothen on Jan 26, 2021 18:07:41 GMT
Lazy sack o' shite.
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Post by future100 on Jan 26, 2021 18:10:24 GMT
You always hope he'll apply himself better. Hope against common sense, probably. But he's only, what 26-27? It could still happen, though I doubt very much that Celtic will the one. If I was the Celtic manager or owner, I would get written agreement from him that he would take both Gaelic and Glaswegian lessons every week if he signed for them. If he struggles with English how the hell is he going to understand the torrent of sectarian abuse he will get in Glasgow?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:16:58 GMT
Stay off the Monkey Dust, kids.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:55:43 GMT
I honestly believe Lockdown has well and truly got to the original poster. People here can help you my friend if needed. We can't have you going anymore insane. Thank you but I'm doing just fine. I recently retired fully, after being semi-retired for 10 years. I already spent a lot of time at home, so in many ways, it's just business as usual. Obviously there's more regarding lockdown, but if you've noticed (don't expect you have) I've only made one single contribution to the 1752-page Coronavirus thread, so it's not actually playing much of a part in my life so far and I intend for it to stay that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 19:05:56 GMT
If HR or management had interviewed him they might have discovered that he never wanted to play in England, He was railroaded into making the move. One minute he's beginning to settle into Porto, the next he's on his way out the door. No doubt he didn't turn a deaf log to his share of the £18M, although I'm not sure that his part was all that big.
I think if you think back to his first 10 games here, rather than the way his time here was prolonged and then ended, you'd be able to think more fondly of him.
As for players' dislike I seem to recall Whelan saying he got on well with him.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 26, 2021 19:07:58 GMT
If HR or management had interviewed him they might have discovered that he never wanted to play in England, He was railroaded into making the move. One minute he's beginning to settle into Porto, the next he's on his way out the door. No doubt he didn't turn a deaf log to his share of the £18M, although I'm not sure that his part was all that big. I think if you think back to his first 10 games here, rather than the way his time here was prolonged and then ended, you'd be able to think more fondly of him. As for players' dislike I seem to recall Whelan saying he got on well with him. Have you got a poster up of him mate😄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 19:09:45 GMT
If HR or management had interviewed him they might have discovered that he never wanted to play in England, He was railroaded into making the move. One minute he's beginning to settle into Porto, the next he's on his way out the door. No doubt he didn't turn a deaf log to his share of the £18M, although I'm not sure that his part was all that big. I think if you think back to his first 10 games here, rather than the way his time here was prolonged and then ended, you'd be able to think more fondly of him. As for players' dislike I seem to recall Whelan saying he got on well with him. Have you got a poster up of him mate😄 Sorry no. I don't think I've had a poster of any Stoke player since Eric Skeels' interview in Goal.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 19:20:35 GMT
If HR or management had interviewed him they might have discovered that he never wanted to play in England, He was railroaded into making the move. One minute he's beginning to settle into Porto, the next he's on his way out the door. No doubt he didn't turn a deaf log to his share of the £18M, although I'm not sure that his part was all that big. I think if you think back to his first 10 games here, rather than the way his time here was prolonged and then ended, you'd be able to think more fondly of him. As for players' dislike I seem to recall Whelan saying he got on well with him. Interesting that you don't believe the normal procedures of recruitment were not employed in a deal for our record transfer, I wonder if that is the reason we keep buying shit footballers for ridiculous amounts of money, would make sense when you look at it though not exactly a ringing endorsement of the process is it.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 26, 2021 19:22:58 GMT
Lazy, unmotivated glove-toting fanny.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Jan 26, 2021 19:31:27 GMT
Lazy, unmotivated glove-toting fanny. Sounds like my last girlfriend.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jan 26, 2021 19:38:49 GMT
We'vce had plenty of players I've thought were shite. We've had quite a few players I haven't liked. We've omly had one player I have wanted to punch in the mouth while he was actually playing for us. I'm pretty sure I've put more effort into typing this than Imbula put into the cup game against Wolves. Were you at that pre season friendly when he subbed himself off then sat at the side of the pitch like a spoilt brat, Hughes didn't attempt to deal with him the coward. Didn’t he sub himself back on once he’d got over himself as well?
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 19:44:57 GMT
Were you at that pre season friendly when he subbed himself off then sat at the side of the pitch like a spoilt brat, Hughes didn't attempt to deal with him the coward. Didn’t he sub himself back on once he’d got over himself as well? I think he may well have done sums up the control Hughes had on his players and we wondered why we ended up getting relegated.
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Post by mattface on Jan 26, 2021 19:56:23 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-giannelli-imbula-celtic-transfer-4930871I know I'm probably one of only a few fans of G. here, but I can't but take note that his downfall and ours have happened almost simultaneously. While I believe we have recovered, he seemingly continues his path, much of what's happened has been self-inflicted, but even he has been victim of the way Covid has changed the game. I just wonder sometimes if both he and we would have been way better off, had we done more to integrate him instead of pushing him out and isolating him. He was a fantastic player on his day. He was a good player and proved it in the first half season, then it all went tits up. Call it lazy on his part, piss poor management in not helping him integrate, probably a mix of both.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 26, 2021 20:08:50 GMT
If they're stupid to think they can reinvigorate his interest in football then somebody tell them they can get an ex-Tottenham defender in for almost nothing too. All he needs is to lose a bit of weight and get fit again.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 26, 2021 20:25:53 GMT
One of his 2 finest moments for us. This is the best one though as its against those fucking ballmouth cunts.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 20:33:08 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-giannelli-imbula-celtic-transfer-4930871I know I'm probably one of only a few fans of G. here, but I can't but take note that his downfall and ours have happened almost simultaneously. While I believe we have recovered, he seemingly continues his path, much of what's happened has been self-inflicted, but even he has been victim of the way Covid has changed the game. I just wonder sometimes if both he and we would have been way better off, had we done more to integrate him instead of pushing him out and isolating him. He was a fantastic player on his day. He was a good player and proved it in the first half season, then it all went tits up. Call it lazy on his part, piss poor management in not helping him integrate, probably a mix of both. Makes you wonder why such a good player has failed at every club he has been at since we started hiding him away on loans. Piss poor signing by a piss poor transfer team following a piss poor process.
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Post by wokka59 on Jan 26, 2021 20:46:06 GMT
What is everyone’s obsession with our former shithouse players careers? Sentinel click bait. Once a Potter, always a Potter. Especially when they're as potentially good as Imbula. He was being compared to Hudson when he made his entrance. Compared to Hudson?? By who???
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Post by questionable on Jan 26, 2021 20:49:06 GMT
Once a Potter, always a Potter. Especially when they're as potentially good as Imbula. He was being compared to Hudson when he made his entrance. Compared to Hudson?? By who??? Tony Scholes
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 26, 2021 20:50:48 GMT
Jennifer Hudson? GI was not liked by the players for his lack of enthusiasm and effort on and off the pitch. He could indeed speak ok english but chose not to. Shays dislike to him was shared by the players and staff alike. Absolutely no homework done on this guy before MH spunked 18 million on him. 1 day of looking into his past and attitude etc would have saved us a small fortune. Are you implying that Teflon Tony is a liar, all due diligence carried out, watch every potential signing 25 times etc. our record signing a total write off, the club is a laughing stock. All down to Hughes I'm affraid.
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Post by moon on Jan 26, 2021 21:11:00 GMT
Imbula was clearly a very talented player, it was the wrong move for him and Stoke at the time, and ultimately a disastrous transfer for us. He still has time to have a successful career. I’ll always wonder about how he was integrated at Stoke though and what the club did to help him, when you invest that much in a player you’ve got to make sure they are in a good place mentally. It seems someone seriously misjudged his motivation and character, you have to question the interview process as it’s not the first time it’s happened, I’d love to know the full details of our recruitment process. I get the impression that under Hughes the only interview was a physical one, clearly missed the team and HR interview side of things! That's why he has been a massive hit everywhere else since we threw away £18.3m away letting him go for fcuk all. My point was that ability wise he has what it takes to make it at the top, but the reason he hasn't made it so far is down to his mentality, maybe he'll grow up before he retires and make the most of the time he has left (maybe 6-7 years) to forge a successful career. I'm not convinced he will but I'm also not writing him off completely just yet, it's just a shame we didn't do our homework before signing him.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 21:11:57 GMT
Are you implying that Teflon Tony is a liar, all due diligence carried out, watch every potential signing 25 times etc. our record signing a total write off, the club is a laughing stock. All down to Hughes I'm affraid. Was it really who negotiated the terms and conditions of the contract, watched him 25 times, carried out all due diligence before it was signed off by our board of directors ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 21:17:58 GMT
Once a Potter, always a Potter. Especially when they're as potentially good as Imbula. He was being compared to Hudson when he made his entrance. Compared to Hudson?? By who??? The Oatcake Messageboard
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:06 GMT
Didn’t he sub himself back on once he’d got over himself as well? I think he may well have done sums up the control Hughes had on his players and we wondered why we ended up getting relegated. I think it's widely known in football that Hughes has quite a laissez faire attitude towards management and let's the dressing room 'police itself'. It obviously works when you have the right group of players but complacency seeps in after a couple of seasons. It's noticeable that Hughes has tended to have an immediate positive impact wherever he's been but that the longer he stays the more things quickly deteriorate. Hughes provided some of the best football I've seen at Stoke and a real hope that we might break into Europe. However, he also let the rot set in (which we still haven't got rid of now!).
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 21:29:45 GMT
Compared to Hudson?? By who??? The Oatcake Messageboard What all of it ?, watching his first three games told you everything you needed to know about him, totally one footed didn't get his head up enough, he was sussed out and was easy to snuff out of games anyone with an ounce of football experience would have flagged that when scouting him.
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Post by chrisgal on Jan 26, 2021 21:34:48 GMT
What all of it ?, watching his first three games told you everything you needed to know about him, totally one footed didn't get his head up enough, he was sussed out and was easy to snuff out of games anyone with an ounce of football experience would have flagged that when scouting him. I didn’t need 3 games. I watched his you tube videos when we were in negotiations for him and posted on here that he wast the most one footed player I had ever seen. So much for football scouts.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 26, 2021 21:37:35 GMT
I think he may well have done sums up the control Hughes had on his players and we wondered why we ended up getting relegated. I think it's widely known in football that Hughes has quite a laissez faire attitude towards management and let's the dressing room 'police itself'. It obviously works when you have the right group of players but complacency seeps in after a couple of seasons. It's noticeable that Hughes has tended to have an immediate positive impact wherever he's been but that the longer he stays the more things quickly deteriorate. Hughes provided some of the best football I've seen at Stoke and a real hope that we might break into Europe. However, he also let the rot set in (which we still haven't got rid of now!). Again another example of piss poor management at board room level, he was floundering 1.5 seasons before they finally realised he was fcuking the club up, by that time the damage was done.
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Post by a on Jan 26, 2021 21:41:58 GMT
I don't know how anyone could call themselves a fan of his, even his mum must be ashamed God knows. Scored a lovely volley against Bournemouth I think but did nothing else other than draw negative press, which he seems to have done at about 4-5 clubs in quick succession. Hope his career is over and he fritters away his undeserved money.
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Post by erogenous on Jan 26, 2021 21:43:18 GMT
Maybe it was Hughes signing but really so what, every manager even world class ones sign an occasional dud.
The other 100m quids worth of shite cant be on Hughes
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