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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 22, 2021 22:28:55 GMT
It’s all pedestrian and easy to defend against We have loads of possession but create virtually nothing and it’s becoming a recurring theme I half wonder if it’s a tactic of opposition managers. Watch us tire ourselves out without really creating anything and then pounce on us from 60 minutes onwards. We are by no means rubbish and played some nice stuff again tonight but we don’t strike any fear into anyone. It’s like a boxer throwing 100 jabs a round and never going for the killer punch.
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Post by walton corner on Jan 22, 2021 22:32:02 GMT
It’s all pedestrian and easy to defend against We have loads of possession but create virtually nothing and it’s becoming a recurring theme I half wonder if it’s a tactic of opposition managers. Watch us tire ourselves out without really creating anything and then pounce on us from 60 minutes onwards. We are by no means rubbish and played some nice stuff again tonight but we don’t strike any fear into anyone. It’s like a boxer throwing 100 jabs a round and never going for the killer punch. Spot on ...but that is MON being out managed
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Post by collo68 on Jan 22, 2021 22:33:09 GMT
Have Campbell and a fit fletcher then we take that game whilst they didn’t have a sniff. We dominated a quality championship side for 60 mins. People criticising MON need to give their heads a wobble, imagine having the parasites of wimmer and Bauer draining us from buying a striker. He’s just admitted unlikely to get a striker...oh for the money jones and Rowett pissed away. Absolutely spot on, people on here are brain dead. Do they think he doesn’t want a quality striker or Fletcher to be fit all the time, my dog could right better posts than most of the people on here, although a lot of it is frustration I imagine
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 22:35:18 GMT
We've played probably 5 good halves all this season. Most of the time we've been bog-standard. No criticism - but you do say this as if you believed that we weren’t a bog-standard team in the first place? Perhaps coming to terms with the reality as to who and where we are? Yeah I'd agree. Is the fabled 'best squad in the Championship' better than any of those sides above us, squads? I don't think so. We are probably where we deserve to be. Most would have taken mid-table mediocrity this year, after last. Here we are.
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Post by potterburt on Jan 22, 2021 22:44:23 GMT
It’s all pedestrian and easy to defend against We have loads of possession but create virtually nothing and it’s becoming a recurring theme I half wonder if it’s a tactic of opposition managers. Watch us tire ourselves out without really creating anything and then pounce on us from 60 minutes onwards. We are by no means rubbish and played some nice stuff again tonight but we don’t strike any fear into anyone. It’s like a boxer throwing 100 jabs a round and never going for the killer punch. And to take on that analogy - could it be that the boxer just isn’t that great, won’t make it into the limelight? Or is it that he has the wrong coach/trainer? Or as you might be alluding to, that maybe the coach has purposely instructed him to throw hundreds of little jabs and not go all out because that’s his best chance of winning the fight? A coach/manager can only adapt and try and get the best of what’s in front of them - sure in footy there’s so much more at play and involved but to put your criticism into the context of your analogy and the unusual circumstances our squad has seen - it kinda suggests that it’s harsh to lay all blame at our managers feet.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 22, 2021 22:57:13 GMT
I half wonder if it’s a tactic of opposition managers. Watch us tire ourselves out without really creating anything and then pounce on us from 60 minutes onwards. We are by no means rubbish and played some nice stuff again tonight but we don’t strike any fear into anyone. It’s like a boxer throwing 100 jabs a round and never going for the killer punch. And to take on that analogy - could it be that the boxer just isn’t that great, won’t make it into the limelight? Or is it that he has the wrong coach/trainer? Or as you might be alluding to, that maybe the coach has purposely instructed him to throw hundreds of little jabs and not go all out because that’s his best chance of winning the fight? A coach/manager can only adapt and try and get the best of what’s in front of them - sure in footy there’s so much more at play and involved but to put your criticism into the context of your analogy and the unusual circumstances our squad has seen - it kinda suggests that it’s harsh to lay all blame at our managers feet. Certainly not digging MON out on it, but it’s certainly happened a few times this season and especially in home games. To carry on the boxing analogy, perhaps we just don’t have anyone to deliver that killer punch and if a new striker is as unlikely as it looks this evening, I suspect lots of 0‘s and 1’s between now and the end of the season.
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Post by potterburt on Jan 22, 2021 23:00:47 GMT
And to take on that analogy - could it be that the boxer just isn’t that great, won’t make it into the limelight? Or is it that he has the wrong coach/trainer? Or as you might be alluding to, that maybe the coach has purposely instructed him to throw hundreds of little jabs and not go all out because that’s his best chance of winning the fight? A coach/manager can only adapt and try and get the best of what’s in front of them - sure in footy there’s so much more at play and involved but to put your criticism into the context of your analogy and the unusual circumstances our squad has seen - it kinda suggests that it’s harsh to lay all blame at our managers feet. Certainly not digging MON out on it, but it’s certainly happened a few times this season and especially in home games. To carry on the boxing analogy, perhaps we just don’t have anyone to deliver that killer punch and if a new striker is as unlikely as it looks this evening, I suspect lots of 0‘s and 1’s between now and the end of the season. Yeah fair enough - maybe we just gotta keep the defence tight, make sure we don’t get blasted and hope through the long slog we wear down the opposition? Might be the best we can do for now until we find/retrain/regain a killer punch?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 22, 2021 23:06:50 GMT
As is the story of our last couple of seasons, we can dominate a game for thirty minutes but don't have the fitness to do so for any longer than that, especially when we have two games per week. In fairness mate we dominated the game for 80 minutes. Bar a mad 5 minutes in the first half when we should have had a penalty against us and a mad 5 minutes in the second half when we gifted them 2 goals. Other than that they didn't look like scoring. Unfortunately neither did we.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Jan 23, 2021 8:19:38 GMT
As a football fan I enjoyed the match, as a stoke fan I was obviously disappointed (again) thought we played some good football, there is potential there. As everyone is aware a quality striker is missing which would change the game dynamics totally. I can see a decent young squad developing. Personally my sights weren’t / aren’t set on automatic promotion or even the playoffs, finish 7th with squad who are actually actually a ‘team’ and want to play for us with the hope of automatic promotion in 21/22.
I just think how different it would be if Campbell had not got injured but that shows a massive weakness in the squad.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but getting rid of MON, as some are wanting, would destroy the spirit of this team, which is something we’ve not had for the past 4 seasons, how fickle some stoke fans are is unbelievable considering the shit we’ve been through
Anyway, how much better would it have been if the Rotherham commentary team had been there?
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Post by christhepotter on Jan 23, 2021 8:21:25 GMT
Playing ok and losing isn't going to get us promoted or anywhere near the play-offs. Watford weren't a great side but showed us what's needed to win a game. Gouranga. You really thought we’d get promotion this season🤔 With the squad we have playoffs are at least we should be aiming for and I guarantee that’s what the Coates family would expect
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 23, 2021 8:52:54 GMT
Sarr and Joao Pedro teaches us something... You don't need pace or experience to be creative, you just need to have the brain. Are you saying Sarr hasn't got pace?
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Post by silverdollar on Jan 23, 2021 10:35:51 GMT
Playing ok and losing isn't going to get us promoted or anywhere near the play-offs. Watford weren't a great side but showed us what's needed to win a game. Gouranga. "Weren't a great side" ? Well of course not we are in the Championship! BUT Watford are near the top of this league so have proved themselves very competitive and tough to play against. I defy any so called fans to say we didn't play well in the first half and up until the penalty. Fans just cannot cope with disappointment and become totally unrealistic in their judgements of performance. We are once again making progress and the signings especially ND and Clarke are looking very positive!
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