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Post by robstokie on Jan 9, 2021 19:31:48 GMT
According to Transfermarkt - wont include Gunn and Rabbi as they are on loan, plus Powell has been confirmed by club to be signed up for next season
Maenpaa (expires next week)
JOM
Ryan
Chester
Cousins
Gregory
Blondy
Who would you keep out of that lot?
Maenpaa - Only a stop gap who got injured, wont be needed now provided Davies comes back fit. Get Rid.
JOM - Hasnt convinced me, makes silly errors you wouldnt expect of a player with his experience, kills momentum on the ball, gets caught out, 34 at end of season and on big money. Get Rid.
Ryan - Club legend, but Injury prone, again on good money and not half the player he was. On top of that, we have a series of identikit centre-halfs ie. all big and good at the nuts and bolts defending (winning stuff in the air, and positioning) but all slow and awkward with the ball at feet. Offer him a coaching role contract, maybe keep the player registration to have the odd run out with the under 23's or make up the numbers with the first team. Keep, but not neccessarily on the books.
Chester - Again, aging centre-half who, although has looked more convincing recently, is not the player he once was, and has a mistake in him, in a position where we could do with releasing some funds to bring in someone quicker and younger. Get Rid.
Gregory - Honest pro, who actually offers something we dont have in a pressing option up top who will run the channels and bring others into the game, also has the physique to be a focal point. Lacks quality with the end product though and is 32 so isnt going to develop into the finished article now. Im on the fence here - would normally say get rid, but would be dependent on either/and how Tyrese is looking with regards to his rehabilitation (would he be on course to be near enough to coming back at the start of the season) and if were to bring in another striker who can act as a focal point this window.
Cousins - Has done well as the holding mid, despite looking technically limited, but is he someone that we could build a team around? for m, the answers no - he can do a job, but would be out of his depth against the top 6 in this division. Gut feeling says get rid IF MON has someone who can come in in that role (whos not another journeyman plodder) and/or Sorensen is part of the plans for next season.
Blondy - New contract, looks decent from when hes been with the under 23s but needs real football to bring him along. So, out on loan in league 2/Conference, 3rd choice so cover if Davies or Joe get injured. Keep.
And then... Lets try and bring in a couple of younger to middle age range players in key positions (a quick centre-half and a solid holding mid) (24-28), not do as we have been known to do, and spunk our load on aging journeymen looking for one last pay-day or who are willing but the legs have gone, and try to start to build up sustainably (wont be able to really get down to it until next summer, where something like 12 players are out of contract).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 19:35:00 GMT
Blondy and Shawcross as a player coach
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Post by moon on Jan 9, 2021 19:41:13 GMT
Keep Blondy and Chester (one more year), the rest we should let go. It will be harsh on Shawcross to let him go without playing in front of the fans but we don’t need him anymore and those wages can go to better use.
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Post by damagedswan on Jan 9, 2021 19:42:01 GMT
Only 100% definite for me there is Blondy. I would personally re-sign Chester as a back-up on less money if possible. Seems to be a good presence around the squad and though error-prone has improved. Bit of a luxury obviously if we can't get rid of other CBs (like, err Liam Lindsay?).
Would like to something similar for Shawcross - would love him to take a coaching role, but not sure if he'd want to do that yet - but I'm more convinced that Chester is up to speed for active squad duty than Ryan.
Didn't see Cousins - wasn't in the original post. Would definitely keep him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 9, 2021 19:43:37 GMT
Keep Blondy and Chester (one more year), the rest we should let go. It will be harsh on Shawcross to let him go without playing in front of the fans but we don’t need him anymore and those wages can go to better use. I agree re Chester but only if we lose someone and he halves his wages. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 9, 2021 19:45:04 GMT
I'd keep Cousins as he's the only defensive-minded midfielder we have.
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Post by shane071085 on Jan 9, 2021 19:48:30 GMT
i would get rid of macron also there contract is also up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2021 19:48:36 GMT
Cousins and Shawcross the rest can go.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 9, 2021 19:54:49 GMT
I think this depends on if we go up or not! If we don't go up I'd certainly keep Cousins, if he is good enough for the PL is another case. Anyway a decent squadplayer we might should keep anyway? Mikel is a quality player if he stays fit, I'd go for a year extension if possible. Blondy I'd certainly keep, but for the rest I'd say let go. I might consider a one year extension for Ryan if he stays fit, but with very reduced terms!  |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 9, 2021 19:56:20 GMT
According to that website BMI is out of contract aswell. And for me, I’d get rid of all of those players listed above. Think BMI has another year in his contract, but he has done well at AZ so I don't think it will be a problem to sell him for a small fee. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 9, 2021 19:58:44 GMT
According to Transfermarkt - wont include Gunn and Rabbi as they are on loan, plus Powell has been confirmed by club to be signed up for next season Maenpaa (expires next week) JOM Ryan Chester Cousins Gregory Blondy Who would you keep out of that lot? Maenpaa - Only a stop gap who got injured, wont be needed now provided Davies comes back fit. Get Rid. JOM - Hasnt convinced me, makes silly errors you wouldnt expect of a player with his experience, kills momentum on the ball, gets caught out, 34 at end of season and on big money. Get Rid. Ryan - Club legend, but Injury prone, again on good money and not half the player he was. On top of that, we have a series of identikit centre-halfs ie. all big and good at the nuts and bolts defending (winning stuff in the air, and positioning) but all slow and awkward with the ball at feet. Offer him a coaching role contract, maybe keep the player registration to have the odd run out with the under 23's or make up the numbers with the first team. Keep, but not neccessarily on the books. Chester - Again, aging centre-half who, although has looked more convincing recently, is not the player he once was, and has a mistake in him, in a position where we could do with releasing some funds to bring in someone quicker and younger. Get Rid. Gregory - Honest pro, who actually offers something we dont have in a pressing option up top who will run the channels and bring others into the game, also has the physique to be a focal point. Lacks quality with the end product though and is 32 so isnt going to develop into the finished article now. Im on the fence here - would normally say get rid, but would be dependent on either/and how Tyrese is looking with regards to his rehabilitation (would he be on course to be near enough to coming back at the start of the season) and if were to bring in another striker who can act as a focal point this window. Cousins - Has done well as the holding mid, despite looking technically limited, but is he someone that we could build a team around? for m, the answers no - he can do a job, but would be out of his depth against the top 6 in this division. Gut feeling says get rid IF MON has someone who can come in in that role (whos not another journeyman plodder) and/or Sorensen is part of the plans for next season. Blondy - New contract, looks decent from when hes been with the under 23s but needs real football to bring him along. So, out on loan in league 2/Conference, 3rd choice so cover if Davies or Joe get injured. Keep. And then... Lets try and bring in a couple of younger to middle age range players in key positions (a quick centre-half and a solid holding mid) (24-28), not do as we have been known to do, and spunk our load on aging journeymen looking for one last pay-day or who are willing but the legs have gone, and try to start to build up sustainably (wont be able to really get down to it until next summer, where something like 12 players are out of contract). I’d keep Cousins. Young and a decent squad player. |
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Post by bolders on Jan 9, 2021 19:59:59 GMT
According to that website BMI is out of contract aswell. And for me, I’d get rid of all of those players listed above. 2022 his runs out |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 9, 2021 20:05:57 GMT
Cousins needs to be signed up even if we sign another DM, he'll be good competion for a new man and really should be in the team now.
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Post by bolders on Jan 9, 2021 20:10:29 GMT
On loan from: Stoke City Contract there expires: Jun 30, 2022 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 20:13:47 GMT
Get rid of all those
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 9, 2021 20:26:20 GMT
We must be leaking millions of pounds in wages , but where does the blame lie
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Post by karl on Jan 9, 2021 20:42:53 GMT
According to Transfermarkt - wont include Gunn and Rabbi as they are on loan, plus Powell has been confirmed by club to be signed up for next season Maenpaa (expires next week) JOM Ryan Chester Cousins Gregory Blondy Who would you keep out of that lot? Maenpaa - Only a stop gap who got injured, wont be needed now provided Davies comes back fit. Get Rid. JOM - Hasnt convinced me, makes silly errors you wouldnt expect of a player with his experience, kills momentum on the ball, gets caught out, 34 at end of season and on big money. Get Rid. Ryan - Club legend, but Injury prone, again on good money and not half the player he was. On top of that, we have a series of identikit centre-halfs ie. all big and good at the nuts and bolts defending (winning stuff in the air, and positioning) but all slow and awkward with the ball at feet. Offer him a coaching role contract, maybe keep the player registration to have the odd run out with the under 23's or make up the numbers with the first team. Keep, but not neccessarily on the books. Chester - Again, aging centre-half who, although has looked more convincing recently, is not the player he once was, and has a mistake in him, in a position where we could do with releasing some funds to bring in someone quicker and younger. Get Rid. Gregory - Honest pro, who actually offers something we dont have in a pressing option up top who will run the channels and bring others into the game, also has the physique to be a focal point. Lacks quality with the end product though and is 32 so isnt going to develop into the finished article now. Im on the fence here - would normally say get rid, but would be dependent on either/and how Tyrese is looking with regards to his rehabilitation (would he be on course to be near enough to coming back at the start of the season) and if were to bring in another striker who can act as a focal point this window. Cousins - Has done well as the holding mid, despite looking technically limited, but is he someone that we could build a team around? for m, the answers no - he can do a job, but would be out of his depth against the top 6 in this division. Gut feeling says get rid IF MON has someone who can come in in that role (whos not another journeyman plodder) and/or Sorensen is part of the plans for next season. Blondy - New contract, looks decent from when hes been with the under 23s but needs real football to bring him along. So, out on loan in league 2/Conference, 3rd choice so cover if Davies or Joe get injured. Keep. And then... Lets try and bring in a couple of younger to middle age range players in key positions (a quick centre-half and a solid holding mid) (24-28), not do as we have been known to do, and spunk our load on aging journeymen looking for one last pay-day or who are willing but the legs have gone, and try to start to build up sustainably (wont be able to really get down to it until next summer, where something like 12 players are out of contract). I would give cousins another year. Don't think Blondy is good enough. Think we have a better keeper in the under 23's who would make a good 3rd keeper for the senior team. |
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Post by karl on Jan 9, 2021 20:44:52 GMT
According to Transfermarkt - wont include Gunn and Rabbi as they are on loan, plus Powell has been confirmed by club to be signed up for next season Maenpaa (expires next week) JOM Ryan Chester Cousins Gregory Blondy Who would you keep out of that lot? Maenpaa - Only a stop gap who got injured, wont be needed now provided Davies comes back fit. Get Rid. JOM - Hasnt convinced me, makes silly errors you wouldnt expect of a player with his experience, kills momentum on the ball, gets caught out, 34 at end of season and on big money. Get Rid. Ryan - Club legend, but Injury prone, again on good money and not half the player he was. On top of that, we have a series of identikit centre-halfs ie. all big and good at the nuts and bolts defending (winning stuff in the air, and positioning) but all slow and awkward with the ball at feet. Offer him a coaching role contract, maybe keep the player registration to have the odd run out with the under 23's or make up the numbers with the first team. Keep, but not neccessarily on the books. Chester - Again, aging centre-half who, although has looked more convincing recently, is not the player he once was, and has a mistake in him, in a position where we could do with releasing some funds to bring in someone quicker and younger. Get Rid. Gregory - Honest pro, who actually offers something we dont have in a pressing option up top who will run the channels and bring others into the game, also has the physique to be a focal point. Lacks quality with the end product though and is 32 so isnt going to develop into the finished article now. Im on the fence here - would normally say get rid, but would be dependent on either/and how Tyrese is looking with regards to his rehabilitation (would he be on course to be near enough to coming back at the start of the season) and if were to bring in another striker who can act as a focal point this window. Cousins - Has done well as the holding mid, despite looking technically limited, but is he someone that we could build a team around? for m, the answers no - he can do a job, but would be out of his depth against the top 6 in this division. Gut feeling says get rid IF MON has someone who can come in in that role (whos not another journeyman plodder) and/or Sorensen is part of the plans for next season. Blondy - New contract, looks decent from when hes been with the under 23s but needs real football to bring him along. So, out on loan in league 2/Conference, 3rd choice so cover if Davies or Joe get injured. Keep. And then... Lets try and bring in a couple of younger to middle age range players in key positions (a quick centre-half and a solid holding mid) (24-28), not do as we have been known to do, and spunk our load on aging journeymen looking for one last pay-day or who are willing but the legs have gone, and try to start to build up sustainably (wont be able to really get down to it until next summer, where something like 12 players are out of contract). I would give cousins another year. Don't think Blondy is good enough. Think we have a better keeper in the under 23's who would make a good 3rd keeper for the senior team. Think though the MON is likely to sign an older experienced keeper in the summer to work with his two young keepers. |
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Post by karl on Jan 9, 2021 20:49:38 GMT
Cousins and Shawcross the rest can go. Shawcross is to old for the pace of the game. If he wants continue his playing career then he needs to drop a division. More likely hang up his boots or become a coach or maybe a player/coach in the lower leagues. |
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Post by jarhead on Jan 9, 2021 20:52:51 GMT
The lot.
And hopefully
McClean
Smith
Baath
Ince
Vokes
Brown
These are joke players
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2021 21:03:36 GMT
Cousins and Shawcross the rest can go. Shawcross is to old for the pace of the game. If he wants continue his playing career then he needs to drop a division. More likely hang up his boots or become a coach or maybe a player/coach in the lower leagues. He didn’t look slow today. Indeed until about the 60th minute he was fine with the pace. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 9, 2021 21:08:22 GMT
Cousins
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Post by robstokie on Jan 9, 2021 21:12:46 GMT
The lot. And hopefully McClean Smith Baath Ince Vokes Brown These are joke players Smith, Ince and Vokes definetly. The other 3 are decent squad players who we can call on, though not the answer if we want to push on - Think Jimmy offers aggression, both in mentality and his running that we otherwise dont have, versatility (alright, hes no Cafu, but he offers far more both attacking and defensively wise than Smith does as a wing back) plus is probably our only out and out winger who can get down the line and whip balls in (hit and miss in terms of quality), Batth wouldnt be a first choice for me, but hes relatively consistent, can organise and lead through some of our younger lads, plus is more reliable in terms of injury/fitness (Ryan has a habit for picking up knocks nowadays since the injury plus his groin/back area is always suspect) and not making silly mistakes (how many goals has Chester cost us since hes come in from switching off) and Brown, although very raw and lacking in end product, is a nuisance, puts the frighteners on defenders and offers us something different and can play across the line, out wide or off someone, he is someone who we can develop in time to be a decent little player. |
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Post by questionable on Jan 9, 2021 21:27:13 GMT
Don’t understand the keep Ryan as a coach, we’ve got some very promising centre half’s who’ve made the break through to the first team squad, so whoever is coaching our young centre halves at the moment is doing a pretty good job.
Thanks Ryan but he’s an employee and his time is up, he’s a very rich person and been paid for no reward for years now, we’ve certainly looked after him financially.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 9, 2021 23:07:28 GMT
I'd let them all go
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jan 9, 2021 23:25:40 GMT
Blondy and Shawcross as a player coach Same for me, others are nothing worth keeping |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 10, 2021 0:56:21 GMT
Why do people want to keep Blondy out of interest? He looks fucking awful every time I’ve watched him play.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jan 10, 2021 6:06:47 GMT
Why do people want to keep Blondy out of interest? He looks fucking awful every time I’ve watched him play. The fact we brought our other young keeper back from loan, then signed a 37 year-old career third stringer to avoid having him start a game, doesn't bode well for the youngster. |
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Post by hcstokie on Jan 10, 2021 7:11:47 GMT
Get rid of the lot unless Ryan and Cousins play a significant number of games in the second half of the season.
We need to allow MON to turn over the squad so most of these, plus a few who aren’t out of contract, need to be moved on to free up wages and squad places.
Hopefully after the summer we’ll start to see MON put his identity on the team with a few of his signings. I still think his hands are tied until the Wimmers, Bauers, et al are shifted so could be another year or two yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 7:24:53 GMT
Cousins and Shawcross the rest can go. Shawcross is to old for the pace of the game. If he wants continue his playing career then he needs to drop a division. More likely hang up his boots or become a coach or maybe a player/coach in the lower leagues. Pace is not a problem for Shawcross. He's quicker than any other defender including Souttar and Collins, except he's slow to turn. But he hasn't developed as a player and plays as if he was still playing for Pulis. Souttar and Collins are far superior when it comes to covering, challenging, tackling, and distributing the ball. |
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