|
Post by thicknthin on Jan 2, 2021 22:19:09 GMT
Not even worth talking about on the Bournemouth show?
Like my arse Sky!
|
|
|
Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 3, 2021 7:36:46 GMT
To be fair the game had stopped before McLean put it in the net
|
|
|
Post by Olgrligm on Jan 3, 2021 7:40:53 GMT
It should have stood.
|
|
|
Post by tuum on Jan 3, 2021 7:55:00 GMT
I don't live in the UK (normally) so I don't get to see too much of Sky Sport TV but managed to watch it yesterday. I thought Sky's post match coverage was really poor. It was 95% Bournemouth and 5% Stoke. There was not a lot of difference between the two sides yesterday. You expect them to concentrate on the 'big' ex PL team who are riding high but not to the extent that they did. It seems we have now been relegated to the status of Championship 'also rans'. We need to string a few wins together so that people will sit up and take notice and start talking about us again.
|
|
|
Post by robwahlmann on Jan 3, 2021 9:00:46 GMT
From the replay I must say it was a poor decision to give a freekick against Powell in that situation, and if that goal had stood we would probably have won the game as well. There are so small margins between failure and success!
|
|
|
Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 3, 2021 9:23:37 GMT
I thought the post match analysis was very poor. You had a scout for Bournemouth and Keith Andrews as the analysts. As mentioned above focussed the vast majority on Bournemouth and hardly anything on what role Stoke played in the match. The first 60 minutes we pressed very well. Bournemouth were very unsettled. When they pressed Stoke played with a good deal of composure and found a way out. And time and again the only thing they say is that Stoke as a team, are physical. Lewis Cook concedes 6 fouls, at least two of which stopped Stoke attacks. No booking there though. Probably not even physical!
Very disappointed with the coverage.
|
|
|
Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 3, 2021 9:25:37 GMT
I could not see what pressure/push/infringement that Powell committed. They showed it a second time and the commentators said that was very soft.
|
|
|
Post by pb1863 on Jan 3, 2021 10:19:57 GMT
Anywhere else on the pitch and is play on. The defender conned the referee.
|
|
|
Post by spitthedog on Jan 3, 2021 10:22:11 GMT
the ref was whistle happy all game, someone in charge who has obviously never played the game
|
|
|
Post by hyaduck on Jan 3, 2021 10:30:38 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on.
|
|
|
Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 3, 2021 10:34:58 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. They were no better than us. The only difference was they scored the decisive goal whereas we squandered good chances. To me that does not make them better. They were a snidey, cheating, roll around scum of a team like they always have been.
|
|
|
Post by hardcastle on Jan 3, 2021 11:34:21 GMT
I could not see what pressure/push/infringement that Powell committed. They showed it a second time and the commentators said that was very soft. Could it be Powell's reputation for constantly looking for free kicks that told against him?
|
|
|
Post by rorystowel on Jan 3, 2021 11:40:00 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. Actually we weren’t. I thought Bournemouth were poor. We were the better team for most of the match and pushed forward, while they tried to use their pace and hit us on the counter with the occasional long ball. But for a shit referee denying us a perfectly good goal, we would have at least come away with a deserved point.
|
|
|
Post by nottsover60 on Jan 3, 2021 12:24:20 GMT
Not even worth talking about on the Bournemouth show? Like my arse Sky! I was totally fed up with the coverage. Apart from acknowledging we were Bournemouth's opponents did they ever talk about us? Didn't see pre match or half time but apart from MON's interview didn't hear anything afterwards. I also hate this ex player punditry. Aren't pundits supposed to be unbiased? Why not have Riic or Liam to counterbalance? They live a lot closer than that Bournemouth player. I've yet to see a trueStokie offering his opinion on sky as a pundit. On a similar note I was watching BBC on line commentary for Derby v Wednesday and when Wednesday scored they basically said come on Derby you've got to get back in this you've been the best team. May have been true but usually those online commentaries are just statements of fact rather than opinion.
|
|
|
Post by nottsover60 on Jan 3, 2021 12:27:30 GMT
I could not see what pressure/push/infringement that Powell committed. They showed it a second time and the commentators said that was very soft. Could it be Powell's reputation for constantly looking for free kicks that told against him? He wasn't looking for a free kick though. I can understand that referees don't always believe he's been hurt but if he was Zaha we'd be hearing far more about how hard done to he is and he'd be getting loads of penalties.
|
|
|
Post by nottsover60 on Jan 3, 2021 12:31:25 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. We didn't deserve to lose, our pressing was excellent and we made them look quite ordinary. A draw would have been fair. It got me in the after match interview when they praised Stanislas for his goal - 7th of the season isn't it? - great effort, without as far as I was aware ever having referred to us missing Campbell who scored 7 a month ago.
|
|
|
Post by OldStokie on Jan 3, 2021 12:40:12 GMT
It was an appalling decision. I've looked at it a number of times and all I can see is two players coming together for the ball and one falling over because he wasn't strong enough. I know the play stopped before we scored but it would have been a great chance that McClean would probably have scored from had the ref not blown up. That goal could have changed the game completely even though I think a draw would have been a fair result. We have enough problems on our plate without the refs making it a damned sight harder for us.
OS.
|
|
|
Post by thicknthin on Jan 3, 2021 13:29:57 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. We didn't deserve to lose, our pressing was excellent and we made them look quite ordinary. A draw would have been fair. It got me in the after match interview when they praised Stanislas for his goal - 7th of the season isn't it? - great effort, without as far as I was aware ever having referred to us missing Campbell who scored 7 a month ago. Their manager pissed me off a little with his after match too. You know what you are getting with Stoke they sit deep and play from front to back quickly. Funny that their two notable chances came from balls over the top? But it’s not Bournemouth’s performance that is bothering me, the prefect away performance in many ways they didn’t force the play, they restricted us to few chances and took theirs when it came. It’s the whole way the program and media set up, it’s like we were playing Barcelona, not effing Bournemouth, even the ref seemed to play along, .it just felt wrong and biased. But that said if that’s the tag we’re given we do need to embrace it and start bloodying some noses pronto
|
|
|
Post by wakeypotter on Jan 3, 2021 13:40:30 GMT
Not even worth talking about on the Bournemouth show? Like my arse Sky! I was totally fed up with the coverage. Apart from acknowledging we were Bournemouth's opponents did they ever talk about us? Didn't see pre match or half time but apart from MON's interview didn't hear anything afterwards. I also hate this ex player punditry. Aren't pundits supposed to be unbiased? Why not have Riic or Liam to counterbalance? They live a lot closer than that Bournemouth player. I've yet to see a trueStokie offering his opinion on sky as a pundit. On a similar note I was watching BBC on line commentary for Derby v Wednesday and when Wednesday scored they basically said come on Derby you've got to get back in this you've been the best team. May have been true but usually those online commentaries are just statements of fact rather than opinion. That is a great point. Why do we not have a ex player blowing smoke out of our arse it’s always the opposition that has the ex player or current youth coach or summat. And has for don fucking goodman he’s a prick of the highest order
|
|
|
Post by emmbrook1956 on Jan 3, 2021 17:26:20 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. I am not a bad loser. I just feel as MON stated we matched them. We were the better team for 2/3 of that game. They had the better chances and converted one. Stoke had opportunities but did not convert. Yes move on. It was a good good performance but again after Fletcher was injured we were fairly toothless in the final third. Happy New Year
|
|
|
Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 3, 2021 17:28:29 GMT
I thought we were the better side until the final third. In fact, put Campbell into that side and we'd have won comfortably.
Even so, this was a pathetic decision by the referee which denied us a certain goal, and there's no reason why we wouldn't have then gone on to win
|
|
|
Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 3, 2021 17:46:50 GMT
It was an appalling decision. I've looked at it a number of times and all I can see is two players coming together for the ball and one falling over because he wasn't strong enough. I know the play stopped before we scored but it would have been a great chance that McClean would probably have scored from had the ref not blown up. That goal could have changed the game completely even though I think a draw would have been a fair result. We have enough problems on our plate without the refs making it a damned sight harder for us. OS. Totally agree with all of that, Mick. Didn't look like any sort of a foul to me and I'd say the odds were clearly on McClean still scoring if play hadn't stopped. One of the few occasions when I wish they had VAR in the Championship.
|
|
|
Post by dirtclod on Jan 3, 2021 17:58:53 GMT
Terrible "pundits" you'd have thought Bournemouth were practicing against a team of cardboard cutouts, they were reluctant to even mention our players. When they did, they acted like we were Stoke in the 80's, not one insightful comment. I just hope now the league doesn't make a meal out of this twitter nonsense directed at Stanislas.
For me, yesterday was confirmation that we aren't as bad as some are saying (we are really good at pressing on defense) and Bournemouth isn't anything to be afraid of.
Edit: Regarding the Stanislas comment - disregard. Nothing at all saying that it has to do with a Stoke fan. (I thought they were presuming it was someone from Stoke)
|
|
|
Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 3, 2021 18:44:32 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. Actually we weren’t. I thought Bournemouth were poor.We were the better team for most of the match and pushed forward, while they tried to use their pace and hit us on the counter with the occasional long ball. But for a shit referee denying us a perfectly good goal, we would have at least come away with a deserved point. I agree i didn't think they were up to much tbh, a draw would have been a fair result.
|
|
|
Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 3, 2021 18:49:24 GMT
This was everything I'm beginning to hate about today's modern game.... The faking of being fouled!!!
It seems today that nobody wants to stay on their feet, if they're struggling to keep advantage of the ball, down they go!!!
There was very minimal of touches from Powell on the Bournemouth player, but because their player didn't have full control of the ball in order to clear it.... Down he went!!!
It's a very poor, cheating and tedious tactic that's involved heavily in today's modern game!!!
|
|
|
Post by lordb on Jan 3, 2021 18:53:53 GMT
No foul there.
|
|
|
Post by Miles Offside on Jan 3, 2021 19:04:00 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. The fact (or opinion) that Bournemouth were the better side has nothing to do with our "goal" being disallowed. With VAR it would've stood.
|
|
|
Post by pottersrule on Jan 3, 2021 19:11:22 GMT
This was everything I'm beginning to hate about today's modern game.... The faking of being fouled!!! It seems today that nobody wants to stay on their feet, if they're struggling to keep advantage of the ball, down they go!!! There was very minimal of touches from Powell on the Bournemouth player, but because their player didn't have full control of the ball in order to clear it.... Down he went!!! It's a very poor, cheating and tedious tactic that's involved heavily in today's modern game!!! Bournemouth have never been any different have they? They employed the same tactics in the premier league conning the ref,time wasting etc. Howe has left but his sidekick is carrying on the good work.I really don't think they know how to do it any other way.
|
|
|
Post by Fred Ferret on Jan 3, 2021 19:16:02 GMT
We’re turning into bad losers, we were beaten by a better team, let’s move on. Let's not move on. Look at the match stats - the performances of both teams were almost identical, We scored a decent goal and so did they. The Refereeing standard sadly is the sole differentiator. The fact a number of folks were equally pissed off with the Sky coverage is fully justified - second half was blatantly biased, mainly because of the conflict of interest by at least one of the two invited panelists. Still Sky/NOW TV, bastions of impartiality, can be certain of one thing - I will not waste a penny on them in future. I hope others walk away similarly.
|
|
|
Post by lee1982 on Jan 4, 2021 0:02:06 GMT
The “ pundits “ were absolutely awful, summed up by Keith Andrews saying twice what a great save Bursik made towards the end when in actual fact it was Tymon who got a block in. In real time i could understand the mistake but he’s saying this while Sky are showing the replay, so im assuming he himself can also see this replay?
|
|