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Post by numpty40 on Dec 15, 2020 19:38:10 GMT
Another clean sheet Souttar, Cousins, Collins and Bursik could be the backbone of this team going forward. Ince looked like the player we signed The manager has clearly got these players playing for him, that is a major major achievement after the last three seasons
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 19:42:07 GMT
Negatives
Brown was shit
Powell was shit
McLean was shit
Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit
We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD
We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 15, 2020 19:44:35 GMT
It’s showed again that this team has a future. You build from the back and if that set up can stay together for a couple of seasons we should be there or thereabouts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 19:47:54 GMT
Positives are the youngsters at the back again. Just absolutely class.
Also thought Tymon kept it neat and simple and was very unlucky not so score. And also Cousins again did very well.
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Post by lordb on Dec 15, 2020 19:49:06 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. We didn't play for a point, thats nonsense If we had then would have brought Batth on and gone five at the back
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 15, 2020 19:49:26 GMT
I wasn’t there
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 15, 2020 19:50:25 GMT
I was really pleased with the performance considering so many injuries
Everyone contributed, even those who didn't play so well, they still mucked in. I like that!!!
20 mins of the 2nd half we dominated.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 19:52:28 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. We didn't play for a point, thats nonsense If we had then would have brought Batth on and gone five at the back 4 at the back with neither fullbacks being attacking fullbacks 2 central/defensive. midfielders that rarely got within 30 yards of the forward players 2 wide players who spent most of the game defending 1 up front He came for a point against a shit team Bloke is scared of his own shadow.
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Post by lordb on Dec 15, 2020 19:56:44 GMT
We didn't play for a point, thats nonsense If we had then would have brought Batth on and gone five at the back 4 at the back with neither fullbacks being attacking fullbacks 2 central/defensive. midfielders that rarely got within 30 yards of the forward players 2 wide players who spent most of the game defending 1 up front He came for a point against a shit team Bloke is scared of his own shadow. Three up front - they just weren't good enough Tymon attacked plenty second half We haven't got any attacking full backs, who would you have play there? Attacking substitutions Spend ten seconds with ONeill he is afraid of nothing Catholic from protestant area of NIreland growing t in 70's and 80's, yeah he's afraid of his own shadow! What nonsense
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Post by jarhead on Dec 15, 2020 19:58:16 GMT
It’s finished!
Dog awful football.
So glad we can’t go!
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 15, 2020 19:58:45 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD
We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. We were missing Mikel, Clucas, Campbell and to a certain extent Fletcher. 4 big game changing players, a point and a clean sheet is more than acceptable under the circumstances. The Championship isn't like the Premier league, 19th position clubs in the Championship can beat top Championship clubs, arguably why the Championship is a far more interesting league than the Premier
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:00:02 GMT
4 at the back with neither fullbacks being attacking fullbacks 2 central/defensive. midfielders that rarely got within 30 yards of the forward players 2 wide players who spent most of the game defending 1 up front He came for a point against a shit team Bloke is scared of his own shadow. Three up front - they just weren't good enough Tymon attacked plenty second half We haven't got any attacking full backs, who would you have play there? Attacking substitutions Spend ten seconds with ONeill he is afraid of nothing Catholic from protestant area of NIreland growing t in 70's and 80's, yeah he's afraid of his own shadow! What nonsense 3 up front. Now that is nonsense. We played 4-5-1. Tymon got forward once. Attacking subs 20 mins too late.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:13:55 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. Don't think we played for a point we are just shite going forward at the moment. Powell needs a rest but who to play instead? (TOB not for me). McClean has been useless since return from Covid and surely we must start with Verlinden Saturday (give him 60mins). Thought Ince was ok and we don't really have an alternative anyway. Brown should only be used as a sub but needs must and at least it means no Vokes. Hopefully Fletcher to start at weekend.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 15, 2020 20:19:37 GMT
Got a point without 5 of our best players in the starting 11.
Didn't seem to be any new injuries.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 15, 2020 20:20:29 GMT
We didn't play for a point, thats nonsense If we had then would have brought Batth on and gone five at the back 4 at the back with neither fullbacks being attacking fullbacks 2 central/defensive. midfielders that rarely got within 30 yards of the forward players 2 wide players who spent most of the game defending 1 up front He came for a point against a shit team Bloke is scared of his own shadow. Should we sack him?
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Post by maine on Dec 15, 2020 20:24:36 GMT
So next season? I figure that 46 goalless draws should be enough to avoid relegation. That's a joke (sort of)!
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 15, 2020 20:29:52 GMT
Considering the injury situation, two draws from two away games is an OK return.
The defence is looking well-drilled.
We're still well in touch with the top 6.
Collins and Souttar get better every game.
Bursik's confidence is coming on in leaps and bounds.
Promising cameo from Verlinden.
We bossed the game for a large spell.
Plenty to be positive about if you choose to be. We might not go up this year, but I can see that we're building something.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:40:45 GMT
4 at the back with neither fullbacks being attacking fullbacks 2 central/defensive. midfielders that rarely got within 30 yards of the forward players 2 wide players who spent most of the game defending 1 up front He came for a point against a shit team Bloke is scared of his own shadow. Should we sack him? Yes because criticising the manager means he should be sacked.....idiot
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Post by ab61 on Dec 15, 2020 20:50:44 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. This is a positives from today thread. Why don’t you go create your own negatives from today thread. Better still fuck off up the Vile as your not much of a Stoke supporter really. If you can’t see what a good job MON is doing your not the brightest button either 👍
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Post by damagedswan on Dec 15, 2020 20:55:55 GMT
- Given the disruption to the side, we weren't as bad as I thought we might be, and had a spell at the beginning of the second half where we actually looked like a proper team for about 15 minutes.
- Jordan Cousins is a very capable Championship DM
- Tom Ince showed surprising levels of match sharpness I thought, though he remains Tom Ince
- Defence and keeper were solid, and it's really impressive that three of the five of them were young lads
- Although he didn't really penetrate, Verlinden made their right back look like an idiot a couple of times
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 21:04:03 GMT
Negatives Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit We played for a point against a team in 19th, in woeful form with a - 8 GD We have now mustered a mere 4 shots on target in 270 minutes of football. One of them being a penalty miss. This is a positives from today thread. Why don’t you go create your own negatives from today thread. Better still fuck off up the Vile as your not much of a Stoke supporter really. If you can’t see what a good job MON is doing your not the brightest button either 👍 If you think 3 shots on target from open play in 270 minutes of football with just one goal is good then you just need to fuck off full stop
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Post by lancer on Dec 15, 2020 21:05:50 GMT
One other great big positive....No one limping off or carried off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 21:10:33 GMT
This is a positives from today thread. Why don’t you go create your own negatives from today thread. Better still fuck off up the Vile as your not much of a Stoke supporter really. If you can’t see what a good job MON is doing your not the brightest button either 👍 If you think 3 shots on target from open play in 270 minutes of football with just one goal is good then you just need to fuck off full stop Nobody thinks 3 shots in 270 minutes is great but most of us can see the mitigating circumstances. We just need to hang in there for now and pick up points where we can. O'Neill will get us scoring again soon I'm sure of it.
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Post by potterburt on Dec 15, 2020 21:20:24 GMT
This is a positives from today thread. Why don’t you go create your own negatives from today thread. Better still fuck off up the Vile as your not much of a Stoke supporter really. If you can’t see what a good job MON is doing your not the brightest button either 👍 If you think 3 shots on target from open play in 270 minutes of football with just one goal is good then you just need to fuck off full stop And maybe quite a few of our supporters need to grow up. Because we are no longer in the prem and playing shiny glossy footy with overpaid players that have arsebiscuit mentalities - means we are ‘shit’ ‘he’s shit’ ‘they’re shit’ shit shit shit shit shit...... It’s adds nothing to the community of our supporters, adds nothing to any tactical analysis and to be blunt, makes you sound a little thick headed. Fine if you see everything as shit, be my guest but I thinks there’s an ever growing sentiment that are exasperated and perplexed by how way off the mark of reality a lot posts can be - and to start and to discuss positives only to have some one way in again with such negative drivel.... well, that is your choice. But it is also a choice to be negative or positive. The definition of support, as well as meaning to follow something, agreeing, being engage in can also mean to prop something up, offer assistance and need.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 15, 2020 21:27:01 GMT
Yes because criticising the manager means he should be sacked.....idiot He's the one that brought the young ones in, he's the one that plays a 21 year old in goal and keeps a champions league winner on the bench. He's the one that led Northern Ireland to their best years since the early 80s, he's the one that took us from a virtually relegated team to mid table, he's the one that has developed a team into promotion challengers with more than a third of the squad injured at some time during the season. Count your blessings, scared my arse......idiot
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 21:44:36 GMT
If you think 3 shots on target from open play in 270 minutes of football with just one goal is good then you just need to fuck off full stop And maybe quite a few of our supporters need to grow up. Because we are no longer in the prem and playing shiny glossy footy with overpaid players that have arsebiscuit mentalities - means we are ‘shit’ ‘he’s shit’ ‘they’re shit’ shit shit shit shit shit...... It’s adds nothing to the community of our supporters, adds nothing to any tactical analysis and to be blunt, makes you sound a little thick headed. Fine if you see everything as shit, be my guest but I thinks there’s an ever growing sentiment that are exasperated and perplexed by how way off the mark of reality a lot posts can be - and to start and to discuss positives only to have some one way in again with such negative drivel.... well, that is your choice. But it is also a choice to be negative or positive. The definition of support, as well as meaning to follow something, agreeing, being engage in can also mean to prop something up, offer assistance and need. I didnt say everything was shit though did I? I said our forward players were shit tonight, not helped by an unbelievably negative set up away from home for the fourth time in a row, against four teams who are some of the poorest teams in this League either on paper, form or both. If you choose not to read something properly, then quote it incorrectly, before calling it drivel alongside making out that I'm thick headed then that's up to you......but people in glass houses....
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 15, 2020 21:46:05 GMT
Got a point without 5 of our best players in the starting 11. Didn't seem to be any new injuries. I'll be honest I'm struggling to think who the five are tbh, Campbell, Clucas, Mikel..... are you including the keepers?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 21:47:06 GMT
Yes because criticising the manager means he should be sacked.....idiot He's the one that brought the young ones in, he's the one that plays a 21 year old in goal and keeps a champions league winner on the bench. He's the one that led Northern Ireland to their best years since the early 80s, he's the one that took us from a virtually relegated team to mid table, he's the one that has developed a team into promotion challengers with more than a third of the squad injured at some time during the season. Count your blessings, scared my arse......idiot So he's beyond criticism then.....I do apologise. Idiot.
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Post by potterburt on Dec 15, 2020 23:33:58 GMT
And maybe quite a few of our supporters need to grow up. Because we are no longer in the prem and playing shiny glossy footy with overpaid players that have arsebiscuit mentalities - means we are ‘shit’ ‘he’s shit’ ‘they’re shit’ shit shit shit shit shit...... It’s adds nothing to the community of our supporters, adds nothing to any tactical analysis and to be blunt, makes you sound a little thick headed. Fine if you see everything as shit, be my guest but I thinks there’s an ever growing sentiment that are exasperated and perplexed by how way off the mark of reality a lot posts can be - and to start and to discuss positives only to have some one way in again with such negative drivel.... well, that is your choice. But it is also a choice to be negative or positive. The definition of support, as well as meaning to follow something, agreeing, being engage in can also mean to prop something up, offer assistance and need. I didnt say everything was shit though did I? I said our forward players were shit tonight, not helped by an unbelievably negative set up away from home for the fourth time in a row, against four teams who are some of the poorest teams in this League either on paper, form or both. If you choose not to read something properly, then quote it incorrectly, before calling it drivel alongside making out that I'm thick headed then that's up to you......but people in glass houses.... You expended energy to comment on a thread about positives to take from the game... “Brown was shit Powell was shit McLean was shit Ince was less shit than he has been but still shit” You skimmed over and chose to ignore the point of my comment - in simpler form, it is your choice to expend negative or positive energy. Even if you read and understood the point you further went on to take the time to reply with a further negative stance. I am curious though - what is the gain? Are you hoping for something in particular? Do you want acceptance from other that your negative viewpoint is correct or that in doing so you will change the efforts of people to showcase and view the positives - is the end game to have all stoke city supporters being negative at every instance? To will the team on with booing and instance criticism? Maybe the only way as a community of supporters can create an enjoyable refuge for people to turn to as their passion, their hobby and interest is to do so by being negative at every turn..... I don’t mean to or want to single you out, it’s not a personal dig and I know nothing of your character but unfortunately in this instance you have been an perfect example to the point and reason of my post.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 16, 2020 0:05:57 GMT
If you think 3 shots on target from open play in 270 minutes of football with just one goal is good then you just need to fuck off full stop And maybe quite a few of our supporters need to grow up. Because we are no longer in the prem and playing shiny glossy footy with overpaid players that have arsebiscuit mentalities - means we are ‘shit’ ‘he’s shit’ ‘they’re shit’ shit shit shit shit shit...... It’s adds nothing to the community of our supporters, adds nothing to any tactical analysis and to be blunt, makes you sound a little thick headed. Fine if you see everything as shit, be my guest but I thinks there’s an ever growing sentiment that are exasperated and perplexed by how way off the mark of reality a lot posts can be - and to start and to discuss positives only to have some one way in again with such negative drivel.... well, that is your choice. But it is also a choice to be negative or positive. The definition of support, as well as meaning to follow something, agreeing, being engage in can also mean to prop something up, offer assistance and need. Well said.
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