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Post by jaybee on Dec 12, 2020 21:51:33 GMT
My thoughts ... He's obviously a very good goalkeeper, but he scares the sH1 out of me when he tries the 'keeper/sweeper' bit - suspect he's gonna get caught out one day perhaps.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 12, 2020 22:05:28 GMT
My thoughts ... He's obviously a very good goalkeeper, but he scares the sH1 out of me when he tries the 'keeper/sweeper' bit - suspect he's gonna get caught out one day perhaps. Yes and me mate but I think it's because we've been so used to our keepers being rooted to their line. He does seem quite good at it though doesn't he?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2020 22:14:39 GMT
Gonna be interesting to see what happens in Jan. Of the 3, I think Gunn is easily the best. But we really shouldn’t be using him when we have 2 keepers we own. But I can’t see Soton allowing us to send him back? Play Davies. Have Gunn as back up/cover. Send Bursik back out on loan to get more experience for next season when Gunn's gone back. It won't do him any good sitting on our bench for 4 months even if we could send Gunn back. Yeah I think that’s what will happen but I don’t like it tbh.
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Post by Gods on Dec 12, 2020 22:16:04 GMT
Just seen James Chester's clearance off the line, that did look like smart piece of work. Doesn’t count or deserve any credit because he made the initial mistake apparently...... Yes, I can imagine. It was still a magnificent piece of work by any measure!
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 12, 2020 22:20:40 GMT
For me no brainer
6 year contract. Best keeper I've seen since Sorro.
He's our future. Davies backup. Done
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 12, 2020 22:22:04 GMT
For me no brainer 6 year contract. Best keeper I've seen since Sorro. He's our future. Davies backup. Done Did you not see Bego and Butland?
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 12, 2020 22:26:18 GMT
For me no brainer 6 year contract. Best keeper I've seen since Sorro. He's our future. Davies backup. Done Did you not see Bego and Butland? Neither commanded the box. I liked Bego. Butland I never rated at all
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 0:16:24 GMT
The save was good.
But again his command and the sweeping was excellent.
An absolute transformation. And if he carries on like this we cannot drop him.
It’d be madness.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 13, 2020 0:41:41 GMT
For me no brainer 6 year contract. Best keeper I've seen since Sorro. He's our future. Davies backup. Done Christ.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 0:48:02 GMT
For me no brainer 6 year contract. Best keeper I've seen since Sorro. He's our future. Davies backup. Done Christ. It is dramatic but the lad clearly has the hype nationally. He’s done really well after a rocky start but in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn’t say he was better than the PL keepers yet when they were on top form. But I feel way more confident with him in goal than the Butland of the last 3 years and I honestly didn’t think I would. With Brexit around the corner, this lad could actually be a valuable asset for us. Would go for a 3 extension mind 😂
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 13, 2020 0:52:06 GMT
It is dramatic but the lad clearly has the hype nationally. He’s done really well after a rocky start but in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn’t say he was better than the PL keepers yet when they were on top form. But I feel way more confident with him in goal than the Butland of the last 3 years and I honestly didn’t think I would. With Brexit around the corner, this lad could actually be a valuable asset for us. Would go for a 3 extension mind 😂 He looks a fantastic prospect but once our 2 keepers are back he'd benefit more playing week in week out on loan until he's good enough to be no.1 here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 0:56:22 GMT
It is dramatic but the lad clearly has the hype nationally. He’s done really well after a rocky start but in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn’t say he was better than the PL keepers yet when they were on top form. But I feel way more confident with him in goal than the Butland of the last 3 years and I honestly didn’t think I would. With Brexit around the corner, this lad could actually be a valuable asset for us. Would go for a 3 extension mind 😂 He looks a fantastic prospect but once our 2 keepers are back he'd benefit more playing week in week out on loan until he's good enough to be no.1 here. But if Davies was back for the midweek game Bursik shouldn’t be dropped. I think that’d be criminal tbh.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Dec 13, 2020 1:00:03 GMT
It is dramatic but the lad clearly has the hype nationally. He’s done really well after a rocky start but in exceptional circumstances. I wouldn’t say he was better than the PL keepers yet when they were on top form. But I feel way more confident with him in goal than the Butland of the last 3 years and I honestly didn’t think I would. With Brexit around the corner, this lad could actually be a valuable asset for us. Would go for a 3 extension mind 😂 He looks a fantastic prospect but once our 2 keepers are back he'd benefit more playing week in week out on loan until he's good enough to be no.1 here. He already is good enough...the more he plays the better he gets.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 1:02:57 GMT
He looks a fantastic prospect but once our 2 keepers are back he'd benefit more playing week in week out on loan until he's good enough to be no.1 here. He already is good enough...the more he plays the better he gets. I’ve been totally surprised by his command. Can see why people shit themselves with his sweeping, I do too but it’s so much better than what we’ve had before. I honestly don’t think he could have performed much better after his first 2/3 games. To turn even that around was remarkable.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Dec 13, 2020 1:06:09 GMT
He already is good enough...the more he plays the better he gets. I’ve been totally surprised by his command. Can see why people shit themselves with his sweeping, I do too but it’s so much better than what we’ve had before. I honestly don’t think he could have performed much better after his first 2/3 games. To turn even that around was remarkable. He had a baptism of fire but after that he has been commanding and what we need in a keeper. His kicking could be improved but he's young and will learn. Its time to show some balls and have some faith in youth.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 13, 2020 1:09:32 GMT
He looks a fantastic prospect but once our 2 keepers are back he'd benefit more playing week in week out on loan until he's good enough to be no.1 here. He already is good enough...the more he plays the better he gets. We don't know that for sure yet, he's got plenty of time. Davies walks back in for me then Bursik goes back to Doncaster to further develop himself with this short spell with us part of his learning curve.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 1:10:41 GMT
I’ve been totally surprised by his command. Can see why people shit themselves with his sweeping, I do too but it’s so much better than what we’ve had before. I honestly don’t think he could have performed much better after his first 2/3 games. To turn even that around was remarkable. He had a baptism of fire but after that he has been commanding and what we need in a keeper. His kicking could be improved but he's young and will learn. Its time to show some balls and have some faith in youth. Definitely and credit to him and MON for keeping him in. Guess the injury to the Finnish dude forced him into it but Londergan was here quick enough. He’s come on so much in such a short space of time.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Dec 13, 2020 1:13:11 GMT
He already is good enough...the more he plays the better he gets. We don't know that for sure yet, he's got plenty of time. Davies walks back in for me then Bursik goes back to Doncaster to further develop himself with this short spell with us part of his learning curve. Davies walks back in? Surely bursik needs to lose the gloves.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Dec 13, 2020 1:13:53 GMT
The save was good. But again his command and the sweeping was excellent. An absolute transformation. And if he carries on like this we cannot drop him. It’d be madness. But you’d drop Davies for Gunn at the drop of a hat
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 1:16:44 GMT
The save was good. But again his command and the sweeping was excellent. An absolute transformation. And if he carries on like this we cannot drop him. It’d be madness. But you’d drop Davies for Gunn at the drop of a hat I would have done at the start of the season yes. But in this thread I’ve said what I’d do..... And that doesn’t fit in with your angst. Sorry 😂
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Post by Uncle cheese on Dec 13, 2020 1:29:43 GMT
But you’d drop Davies for Gunn at the drop of a hat I would have done at the start of the season yes. But in this thread I’ve said what I’d do..... And that doesn’t fit in with your angst. Sorry 😂 I’ll bite again. You’ll pick cousins and Mikel in your midfield. They must have scored about 3 goals in their career yet you moan about lack of creativity and would pick those two in the same team This goes against your angst. Sorry 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2020 1:31:50 GMT
I would have done at the start of the season yes. But in this thread I’ve said what I’d do..... And that doesn’t fit in with your angst. Sorry 😂 I’ll bite again. You’ll pick cousins and Mikel in your midfield. They must have scored about 3 goals in their career yet you moan about lack of creativity and would pick those two in the same team This goes against your angst. Sorry 😂 Yes because it needs to be solid and actually Mikel’s forward passing has been excellent. I’d have 4 attackers in the side who I’d expect to score 50/60 goals between them in that side. I don’t get your point.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 13, 2020 11:29:59 GMT
I’ll bite again. You’ll pick cousins and Mikel in your midfield. They must have scored about 3 goals in their career yet you moan about lack of creativity and would pick those two in the same team This goes against your angst. Sorry 😂 Yes because it needs to be solid and actually Mikel’s forward passing has been excellent. I’d have 4 attackers in the side who I’d expect to score 50/60 goals between them in that side. I don’t get your point. This is getting worrying. I'm agreeing again. This is exactky what I woukd do also. Woukd be nice to have someone better than cousins but we don't. These two with Campbell Clucas Powell and Fletcher will score more than enough
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Post by a on Dec 13, 2020 11:31:05 GMT
Just seen James Chester's clearance off the line, that did look like smart piece of work. Doesn’t count or deserve any credit because he made the initial mistake apparently...... 😂 it does appear that is the case
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 13, 2020 11:33:51 GMT
My thoughts ... He's obviously a very good goalkeeper, but he scares the sH1 out of me when he tries the 'keeper/sweeper' bit - suspect he's gonna get caught out one day perhaps. He will. But he’ll learn and get better. We might well have another jewel on our hands. Campbell. Collins. Soutar. Bursik. Exciting times.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 13, 2020 11:34:45 GMT
Yes because it needs to be solid and actually Mikel’s forward passing has been excellent. I’d have 4 attackers in the side who I’d expect to score 50/60 goals between them in that side. I don’t get your point. This is getting worrying. I'm agreeing again. This is exactky what I woukd do also. Woukd be nice to have someone better than cousins but we don't. These two with Campbell Clucas Powell and Fletcher will score more than enough Tricky to score “more than enough” when two of them are injured long term and the other two are currently playing when only 60-70% fit.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Dec 13, 2020 14:26:35 GMT
I have missed this, who is injured long term?
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Post by tuum on Dec 13, 2020 14:39:13 GMT
Did you not see Bego and Butland? Neither commanded the box. I liked Bego. Butland I never rated at all I have seen nothing from Bursik to date that suggests he is better than Bego in terms of commanding his box. Its early days yet. He is improving from a nervy start but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Ask Doncaster fans what they think.. and they have seen more of him than we have.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Dec 13, 2020 15:06:25 GMT
Did you not see Bego and Butland? Neither commanded the box. I liked Bego. Butland I never rated at all I thought bego commanded his box really well. The only keeper we have had for a long while who did. Bursik is growing with each game and the save yesterday was a regulation one but he still scares me with how high up the pitch he seems to get, but hopefully he will learn more safe decision making....its the dross in front of him that needs sorting asap rather than our keeper.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 15:57:29 GMT
Play Davies. Have Gunn as back up/cover. Send Bursik back out on loan to get more experience for next season when Gunn's gone back. It won't do him any good sitting on our bench for 4 months even if we could send Gunn back. That means dropping Bursik mate If he continues like this that would be utter madness It would be. But Davies hadn't done anything to deserve losing his place, before being injured, so keeping him on the bench would be harsh too. I reckon O'Neill prefers quality and experience to youthful promise, although he has introduced more of the latter than any other manager since I don't know who. I think any mistake Bursik might make would be the excuse O'Neill needs to reinstate Davies.
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