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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 4, 2020 17:10:58 GMT
In Bahrain, but called Sakhir GP, same track as last week but slightly reconfigured.
Williams driver George Russel takes Hamilton's seat in the Merc.
I soooooooo hope he wins...
Then it's a case of the greatest ever F1 Car driven by Lewis Hamilton, as opposed to the greatest ever driver drives a Merc.
Ive always said practically anyone would win in that Merc....
And already Russel has set the fastest times in unofficial practice today.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 4, 2020 19:30:18 GMT
In Bahrain, but called Sakhir GP, same track as last week but slightly reconfigured. Williams driver George Russel takes Hamilton's seat in the Merc. I soooooooo hope he wins... Then it's a case of the greatest ever F1 Car driven by Lewis Hamilton, as opposed to the greatest ever driver drives a Merc. Ive always said practically anyone would win in that Merc.... And already Russel has set the fastest times in unofficial practice today. No wonder Lewis was so gutted at not being able to race. He knows his wheels being loaned to someone else could potentially call in to question how outstanding his car is compared to his driving abilities alone! If Russell ends up winning on Sunday I definitely think the gloss will be taken off Lewis's achievements somewhat! Sure all the pundits & Team principles will play it all down if he does as they couldnt be seen to be hurting the current World Champions feelings now could they?!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 4, 2020 20:02:18 GMT
Russell potentially winning says more about Bottas than it does Hamilton.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 4, 2020 20:22:26 GMT
Russell potentially winning says more about Bottas than it does Hamilton. “Valtteri, it’s James, we’re boxing this lap repeat we are boxing this lap, please pull into the pits and collect your P45 as you park up”.
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Post by RF10 on Dec 4, 2020 21:12:08 GMT
Just like anyone would have previously won in the Red Bull or the McClaren or the Ferrari. There is no doubt Mercedes have the best car, there is also no doubt Hamilton is the best driver. The two together have won 6 world titles.
You put any current driver in the other Mercedes and Lewis comes out on top over the season the vast majority of the time. Whether or not you like him look through his F1 career from his rookie season where he rattled Alonso (x2 world champion) and came an error of pitstop away to winning the title.
The following season he won it and during season pulled off one of the most remarkable wins in history of F1 at Silverstone 08, I witnessed this first hand and the weather was frankly appalling which experienced drivers couldn't handle. Even go back a few weeks ago at Turkey he looked so far away from victory after poor start to win using all his experience and skill.
I understand to a degree people not being keen on him as person but to question the most successful driver of all time ability is wrong.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 4, 2020 23:27:46 GMT
In Bahrain, but called Sakhir GP, same track as last week but slightly reconfigured. Williams driver George Russel takes Hamilton's seat in the Merc. I soooooooo hope he wins... Then it's a case of the greatest ever F1 Car driven by Lewis Hamilton, as opposed to the greatest ever driver drives a Merc. Ive always said practically anyone would win in that Merc.... And already Russel has set the fastest times in unofficial practice today. Did you feel the same about Schumacher?
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 4, 2020 23:33:16 GMT
In Bahrain, but called Sakhir GP, same track as last week but slightly reconfigured. Williams driver George Russel takes Hamilton's seat in the Merc. I soooooooo hope he wins... Then it's a case of the greatest ever F1 Car driven by Lewis Hamilton, as opposed to the greatest ever driver drives a Merc. Ive always said practically anyone would win in that Merc.... And already Russel has set the fastest times in unofficial practice today. Did you feel the same about Schumacher? No. Because he won in a much levelled playing field. There were at least 4 teams all competing.
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 5, 2020 9:49:46 GMT
Did you feel the same about Schumacher? No. Because he won in a much levelled playing field. There were at least 4 teams all competing. Not when he smashed them off the circuit to make sure he won the titles 👍. Best way to look at it is Mercedes have the best car with the best driver and the best technical team behind it. It’s the same as an all conquering football team, it’s all the components that work, when one transfers out it doesn’t guarantee success. If you put Hamilton in the red bull his skill would probably wrong the extra out of the car to push the Mercedes. F1 today is more about wringing those extra milliseconds out of the cars than the balls to the walls days of before the late 90’s. If you look at the Williams what mansell won the title in the car was basically like loading up a computer game and typing in all the cheats but the driver still needed to be able to handle on the edge it required. But verstappen as Hamilton’s team mate and I think he’d be more competitive than bottas however I think the season result would still be the same. I think on a personal level Hamilton can seem a bit detached or even aloof, however Schumacher as the same and Prost. But the guy is at the top of his game consistently, it’s very, very rare that he’s dropped points do to his driving failures, in the wet he’s pretty much the best I’ve ever seen I’d even give him the edge over Schumacher who was pretty much unstoppable in the wet. Just enjoy seeing a world class competitor at the peak of his game with the best tools for the job smashing the opposition’s dreams and he’s British. Pity he drives for the Germans but can’t have everything.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 5, 2020 19:49:41 GMT
Hamilton's car is on the front row of the grid.
Goooooaaarrrnnn Hamilton's car.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 5, 2020 21:55:09 GMT
This looks a dead easy circuit lay out. 3 long straights... Vert Fey difficult turns and chicaines
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 5, 2020 23:26:52 GMT
There is no doubt that Hamilton is one of the best drivers, his tyre management is absolutely superb & he can win in any conditions. As a person though he comes across as an arrogant arse.
Really looking forward to watching Russell tomorrow & hope he gets a podium. He’s one of the better young drivers, just unfortunately driving a poor car.
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Post by Boothen on Dec 6, 2020 7:51:38 GMT
As a person though he comes across as an arrogant arse. Explains why you see loads of photos taken by other drivers of them out having a laugh with each other and with friends and Hamilton is posting pictures of him sat alone, at a huge table in an empty house looking glum.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 6, 2020 12:33:39 GMT
As a person though he comes across as an arrogant arse. Explains why you see loads of photos taken by other drivers of them out having a laugh with each other and with friends and Hamilton is posting pictures of him sat alone, at a huge table in an empty house looking glum. You forgot the dog
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 6, 2020 16:55:31 GMT
Explains why you see loads of photos taken by other drivers of them out having a laugh with each other and with friends and Hamilton is posting pictures of him sat alone, at a huge table in an empty house looking glum. You forgot the dog The dog is cute although it wasn’t too happy with the heat when I saw it 🤣
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 6, 2020 17:22:13 GMT
Gooarn Georgie Boy!!!!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 6, 2020 17:31:39 GMT
This will be interesting
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 6, 2020 19:00:27 GMT
Now it’s good job I’m not naturally suspicious Or I might think that they fucked up his tyres on purpose so as not to take the glory away form Hamilton
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 6, 2020 19:27:22 GMT
I’m gutted for Russell, absolutely gutted.
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Post by ethers26 on Dec 6, 2020 19:30:24 GMT
As Toto said, a star was born today!
We knew he was good, but he blew Bottas away really.
He was milliseconds away from DRS before the puncture.
Gutted but he'll be back in that seat very soon
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 6, 2020 19:40:36 GMT
It was a great drive fucked up by the team.
He’ll be back in that seat & on that podium soon enough.
Well done George 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 7, 2020 14:47:13 GMT
Robbed...Simple as...
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 9, 2020 13:04:48 GMT
It was a great drive fucked up by the team. He’ll be back in that seat & on that podium soon enough. Well done George 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 If there's any justice, George should be in that Merc next season and really make Hamilton work for a title. That performance categorically shows up Bottas as the bang average driver that he is, and he needs to step aside.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 9, 2020 13:17:16 GMT
It was a great drive fucked up by the team. He’ll be back in that seat & on that podium soon enough. Well done George 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 If there's any justice, George should be in that Merc next season and really make Hamilton work for a title. That performance categorically shows up Bottas as the bang average driver that he is, and he needs to step aside. I am 100% convinced that he was sabotaged, the Merc team run like clockwork time after time after time, to make 2 monumental fuck ups in one race is beyond belief.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 9, 2020 13:23:38 GMT
If there's any justice, George should be in that Merc next season and really make Hamilton work for a title. That performance categorically shows up Bottas as the bang average driver that he is, and he needs to step aside. I am 100% convinced that he was sabotaged, the Merc team run like clockwork time after time after time, to make 2 monumental fuck ups in one race is beyond belief. Well they couldn’t have a complete rookie achieving the exact same result as there superstar could they
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 9, 2020 13:51:40 GMT
If there's any justice, George should be in that Merc next season and really make Hamilton work for a title. That performance categorically shows up Bottas as the bang average driver that he is, and he needs to step aside. I am 100% convinced that he was sabotaged, the Merc team run like clockwork time after time after time, to make 2 monumental fuck ups in one race is beyond belief. It was one mistake really that affected both drivers - they put the wrong tyres on George, which then impacted on Bottas. I don't think you can blame Merc for the puncture. I just can't see why Merc would sabotage his race and even if they did, a vast proportion of the pit crew would need to be in on it and they're not the kind of people who do politics. They work their butts off all week, as do the engineers back at HQ, to win races. Massaging Lewis's ego surely can't be worth that much trouble.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Dec 9, 2020 20:12:03 GMT
I am 100% convinced that he was sabotaged, the Merc team run like clockwork time after time after time, to make 2 monumental fuck ups in one race is beyond belief. It was one mistake really that affected both drivers - they put the wrong tyres on George, which then impacted on Bottas. I don't think you can blame Merc for the puncture. I just can't see why Merc would sabotage his race and even if they did, a vast proportion of the pit crew would need to be in on it and they're not the kind of people who do politics. They work their butts off all week, as do the engineers back at HQ, to win races. Massaging Lewis's ego surely can't be worth that much trouble. Even with the f’ups he would still have taken a good run at Perez but for the slow puncture. That had nothing to do with Mercedes.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 9, 2020 20:30:49 GMT
I am 100% convinced that he was sabotaged, the Merc team run like clockwork time after time after time, to make 2 monumental fuck ups in one race is beyond belief. Well they couldn’t have a complete rookie achieving the exact same result as there superstar could they He's been in F1 for two seasons and won two of the feeder Championships - hardly a rookie. I think Hamilton would have found a way to win that race, but that's down to his experience as much as what a great driver he is.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Dec 9, 2020 20:48:31 GMT
It was a stellar race for George, and it's really put the cat amongst the pigeons. As much as having the win taken from him twice, we got to see what Russell is like as a racer rather than leading from the front. When Vettel was at Red Bull he was completely in tune with his car and it's double diffuser and he would just drive away from the rest, every week. When things got tough and he found himself in the pack, he was crap, and he still is. Russell showed himself as a complete driver, and if it were not for his mishaps, we would not have been able to watch him slice through the field twice, and pull off one of the best recent overtakes on Bottas.
I can't see things changing for next year, as there's little point giving Hamilton a harder time, Mercedes are there to win both Championships and they can do that easily with Hamilton and Bottas. Having said that, Bottas is toast for 2022, and with a car that's made to fit Russell, I think George will give Hamilton a really hard time.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 9, 2020 23:13:42 GMT
Mercedes are there to win both Championships and they can do that easily with Hamilton and Bottas. They would have won the Constructors with Hamilton alone! Take away Bottas’s points, and Merc would still be leading with 335 points. Keeping Bottas next year adds no value to Merc. He joined Merc from Williams. It’s time for him to go back there and for Merc to blood Russell as a proper competitor for Lewis.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 10, 2020 15:55:35 GMT
Mercedes are there to win both Championships and they can do that easily with Hamilton and Bottas. They would have won the Constructors with Hamilton alone! Take away Bottas’s points, and Merc would still be leading with 335 points. Keeping Bottas next year adds no value to Merc. He joined Merc from Williams. It’s time for him to go back there and for Merc to blood Russell as a proper competitor for Lewis. a lot to be said for an experienced racer to control the pack behind your team mate to allow him to stream onto victory
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