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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 24, 2020 21:06:58 GMT
Weird game
Gave them too much respect and no one turned up first half for us at all
Should have been a draw purely down to ref decisions but the better team won despite their injury issues which are huge lets not forget
Ince - lets not even even bother again - same with Tymon
Progress is there to see - but it is indeed work in progress
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 24, 2020 21:08:10 GMT
Yeah Tymon has played himself out of the team the last few times he’s come on.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Nov 24, 2020 21:08:25 GMT
When we did press high they ripped us open and scored 3 goals (even though 1 was offside). Gouranga.  |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:09:09 GMT
Because they're tired?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:10:30 GMT
Pathetic excuse. Funny Norwich weren’t tired. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:12:17 GMT
Pathetic excuse. Funny Norwich weren’t tired. How many changes have Norwich made? How many games have the players played on the bounce? I'm sure you know all this. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:15:05 GMT
Pathetic excuse. Funny Norwich weren’t tired. How many changes have Norwich made? How many games have the players played on the bounce? I'm sure you know all this. If professional athletes can’t do 2 matches in one week it’s time to give up Fucking tired my arse |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:16:54 GMT
How many changes have Norwich made? How many games have the players played on the bounce? I'm sure you know all this. If professional athletes can’t do 2 matches in one week it’s time to give up Fucking tired my arse So you don't know the answers then? |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Nov 24, 2020 21:19:10 GMT
Norwich played away twice in last 72 hours with 9 first teamers out - we didnt on all those counts
No excuse we just did not turn up in the first half again
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 21:23:01 GMT
On Saturday Powell was on it, pressing, clever play and a nuisance. Tonight after 5 mins you could tell he was miles off the pace. Mikel and clucas didn’t seem to have a clue who was doing what, and Tymon was somewhere with Ric smoking the old Jamaican. It was a complete mess. When Powell is off it he really is a waste of time, I’d have subbed him in the first half.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2020 21:23:28 GMT
It's easy to say "high press" but not always easy to do against good teams. They started the game really well and more importantly capitalised and took the lead......
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 24, 2020 21:26:34 GMT
On Saturday Powell was on it, pressing, clever play and a nuisance. Tonight after 5 mins you could tell he was miles off the pace. Mikel and clucas didn’t seem to have a clue who was doing what, and Tymon was somewhere with Ric smoking the old Jamaican. It was a complete mess. When Powell is off it he really is a waste of time, I’d have subbed him in the first half. That’s spot on but Tymon selection really was a big mistake once would have been better Tymon is neither a threat going forward or a good stopper going backwards I still think two clever loans in January could get us into 6th top will be long gone by then and probably Watford not far behind them |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 24, 2020 21:27:20 GMT
I couldn't quite get my head around the tactics particularly in the first half. Powell was charging out of his position (Joe Allen like) in an attempt to close down but no one else was doing it so it was leaving us exposed. I don't know if he was told to or what tbh.
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Post by Trouserdog on Nov 24, 2020 21:28:10 GMT
It takes a shit load of energy to keep a high press going for long. Fletcher's about 45, he's not going to be able to play like Sadio Mane is he?
A high press has to be 100% intensity, everyone on it, and a team like Stoke can't do that all the time- it has to be done in short spells.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Nov 24, 2020 21:28:12 GMT
It's easy to say "high press" but not always easy to do against good teams. They started the game really well and more importantly capitalised and took the lead...... McLean would wife Helped hugely let’s hope like Salah he can do a negative test in the next couple of days and be there Saturday he’s key for that battle |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:29:49 GMT
If professional athletes can’t do 2 matches in one week it’s time to give up Fucking tired my arse So you don't know the answers then? Norwich made 3 changes. We made 1. So Norwich would have 2 more players less “tired” than us and you think that’s an exuse ? Pathetic. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:31:15 GMT
So you don't know the answers then? Norwich made 3 changes. We made 1. So Norwich would have 2 more players less “tired” than us and you think that’s an exuse ? Pathetic. You can keep saying pathetic as much as you want wannabe but it's still a factor whether you like it or not. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:37:04 GMT
Norwich made 3 changes. We made 1. So Norwich would have 2 more players less “tired” than us and you think that’s an exuse ? Pathetic. You can keep saying pathetic as much as you want wannabe but it's still a factor whether you like it or not. Just to clarify, you as a grown man with a working brain thinks that because Norwich made 2 more changes than us is a valid reason why we didn’t turn up in the first half ? |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:38:40 GMT
You can keep saying pathetic as much as you want wannabe but it's still a factor whether you like it or not. Just to clarify, you as a grown man with a working brain thinks that because Norwich made 2 more changes than us is a valid reason why we didn’t turn up in the first half ? Well obviously I'm conversing with one that hasn't got one. Why wouldn't it? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2020 21:39:19 GMT
So you don't know the answers then? Norwich made 3 changes. We made 1. So Norwich would have 2 more players less “tired” than us and you think that’s an exuse ? Pathetic. They bought someone like Pukki in, we bought Tymon in. They’re a decent team with a big squad, tonight was always going to be really tough..... |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:47:23 GMT
Just to clarify, you as a grown man with a working brain thinks that because Norwich made 2 more changes than us is a valid reason why we didn’t turn up in the first half ? Well obviously I'm conversing with one that hasn't got one. Why wouldn't it? Because Norwich are a better side than us regardless ? And even if they’re were to be tired that’s the mangers fault for only making one change |
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 24, 2020 21:48:32 GMT
Well obviously I'm conversing with one that hasn't got one. Why wouldn't it? Because Norwich are a better side than us regardless ? And even if they’re were to be tired that’s the mangers fault for only making one change All true. Glad we came to some middle ground. |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 24, 2020 21:51:08 GMT
Norwich made 3 changes. We made 1. So Norwich would have 2 more players less “tired” than us and you think that’s an exuse ? Pathetic. They bought someone like Pukki in, we bought Tymon in. They’re a decent team with a big squad, tonight was always going to be really tough..... Agreed. But they aren’t tired, Norwich we’re just better than us. No shame in that they’ll probably go up |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 24, 2020 21:54:07 GMT
They bought someone like Pukki in, we bought Tymon in. They’re a decent team with a big squad, tonight was always going to be really tough..... Agreed. But they aren’t tired, Norwich we’re just better than us. No shame in that they’ll probably go up I would suggest Mikel is tired, Clucas will be as well as he’s just come back from a lay off. Campbell, Fletcher and Powell also. With injuries some of the alternatives just aren’t good enough..... |
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 25, 2020 14:16:23 GMT
With our squad being so tired and overplayed, I'm just waiting for someone to say Wimmer! And Bauer.
I think in the circumstances we should be accepting things for what they are.
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