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Post by thfc67 on Nov 12, 2020 17:40:18 GMT
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2020 17:49:15 GMT
It's our supporters that have created the aura that our ground has
Architecturally it's similar to other grounds, bland almost
Instead it can be a place to be feared
We did that
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 12, 2020 17:51:20 GMT
I haven’t a clue how, it’s a boring stadium.
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Post by stokefc on Nov 12, 2020 18:00:41 GMT
we never ever have a new ground bounce ,ever  |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 12, 2020 20:44:16 GMT
It's a shit stadium aesthetically and location wise.
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Post by wrighter on Nov 12, 2020 21:10:34 GMT
rather be at the vic
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Post by biglad180 on Nov 12, 2020 22:06:36 GMT
Should have filled every corner in for me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 22:18:57 GMT
It’s a shit ground to be honest. It’s not as bad as it was when we first moved there but it’s still quite a bland stadium. It would be improved no end by knocking down the boothen end and rebuilding a completely new, original stand with a nice red brick facade and standing areas. Pie in the sky thinking of course.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 12, 2020 22:39:35 GMT
It’s a shit ground to be honest. It’s not as bad as it was when we first moved there but it’s still quite a bland stadium. It would be improved no end by knocking down the boothen end and rebuilding a completely new, original stand with a nice red brick facade and standing areas. Pie in the sky thinking of course. Nice idea. Maybe big bottle kilns in each corner with floodlights off the top. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 12, 2020 22:40:00 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 22:49:38 GMT
Surely Pride Park should feature in that article. It’s like our ground but better.
And the riverside?
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 12, 2020 22:58:26 GMT
Surely Pride Park should feature in that article. It’s like our ground but better. Except its in shitty Derby 😉 |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Nov 13, 2020 0:43:19 GMT
West Ham in the top 10 worst for the next part?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 0:53:16 GMT
It’s a shit ground to be honest. It’s not as bad as it was when we first moved there but it’s still quite a bland stadium. It would be improved no end by knocking down the boothen end and rebuilding a completely new, original stand with a nice red brick facade and standing areas. Pie in the sky thinking of course. Nice idea. Maybe big bottle kilns in each corner with floodlights off the top. Honestly, it's slightly absurd but you've just read my mind. I've had this same thought about some sort of replica bottle kilns being incorporated into it. I wish I was a designer I would take the time to create an artists impression. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 1:10:44 GMT
it does the job and what was needed as the Vic wasn't this fantastic stadium some remember but a good old ground that had seen far better times and time to move on as was not fit to host football at a top level any more
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 13, 2020 8:38:40 GMT
Surely Pride Park should feature in that article. It’s like our ground but better. And the riverside? That is part 1 or a two part article. It mentions in the article that West Ham's stadium will be in part 2 and probably Pride Park will be as well. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Nov 13, 2020 8:52:26 GMT
it does the job and what was needed as the Vic wasn't this fantastic stadium some remember but a good old ground that had seen far better times and time to move on as was not fit to host football at a top level any more Yes, people easily forget the state of the Old Vic by the time we left. It had a much reduced capacity from the days when I stood on the Boothen in a 49K crowd and would have cost a heluva lot to bring up to only half decent modern standards. The new stadium is a bit soulless, has rubbish leg room, too much space between the pitch and the main stand, two missing corners and ground floor concourses which are far too small on 3 sides of the ground. But - it now accommodates 30K seated, can easily be expanded to 35K by completing the corners and has vastly more opportunities for higher priced match day hospitality. It lacks the charisma of the Old Vic but the really big problem (with all the new grounds not just ours) is the Taylor report and the government of the day, which decided to mandate all seater stadiums in the top two leagues. We all pay a heavy price in terms of atmosphere for that decision. |
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Post by ab61 on Nov 13, 2020 8:56:55 GMT
Surely Pride Park should feature in that article. It’s like our ground but better. And the riverside? Have you been the riverside ! Awful ground. Main stand isn’t a patch on ours. Ours is ok. Not brilliant. Serves well when it’s full and bouncing. |
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Post by walrus on Nov 13, 2020 10:16:46 GMT
I like our ground’s weird quirks. What was a pretty strange architectural decision to leave open corners has in hindsight given the ground a sense of individual character that many near-identical new stadiums lack.
I know new stadiums will very rarely better the old grounds they replaced in terms of character, but at least ours has some.
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Post by ab61 on Nov 13, 2020 10:30:09 GMT
I like our ground’s weird quirks. What was a pretty strange architectural decision to leave open corners has in hindsight given the ground a sense of individual character that many near-identical new stadiums lack. I know new stadiums will very rarely better the old grounds they replaced in terms of character, but at least ours has some. Wasn’t really a architectural decision of sorts. More a money decision. We basically had around 15 million to spend on a new ground. And that was it. Including European grants. The club went to a couple of architects said draw us up some plans within that budget and the one we had came in top. The other had four open corners ! We just didn’t have any money. If we had lots of money we could have ploughed it into redeveloping The Vic. |
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Post by stokemark on Nov 13, 2020 10:38:21 GMT
Has that article been written by a 15 year old ?
As well as having basic grammar / spelling errors it reads like it was written as part of a GCSE submission.
Add to that the overall absurdity of much of the opinion (which is clear and apparent to us as Stoke fans but equally true with other clubs mentioned) then its a piece fit only for 'Tottenhams Toilet Bowl'
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 13, 2020 10:45:46 GMT
It's our supporters that have created the aura that our ground has Architecturally it's similar to other grounds, bland almost Instead it can be a place to be feared We did that Yes, our hostile atmosphere under Tony Pulis is still celebrated widely, not least in the Philippines where he is revered to this day...  Leaving aside my rather inappropriate attempt at humour, I'm amazed our place is in the top ten, it's a terrible mishmash of half-finished stands, open corners and sub-zero temperatures whatever the weather elsewhere in Stoke! The only thing that might have worked in its favour was the atmosphere we created in our first few seasons in the Prem, but for 10 years before that and some time after, that was nothing special too. Odd choice all round, but nice to get some coverage! Leicester's ground always struck me as how we should have done ours. A proper, 30,000 seater enclosed bowl. |
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 13, 2020 10:50:51 GMT
Does anyone know if there are any long term plans for developing the bet365 site?
There is no need/demand to increase capacity, but what about accessibility, comfort (protection from the weather), improved catering facilities, more parking, train station, etc.
There must be loads of ways the owners can improve the experience of match day. They have provided the best possible facilities for the players, what about the supporters?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 10:51:30 GMT
Surely Pride Park should feature in that article. It’s like our ground but better. And the riverside? Have you been the riverside ! Awful ground. Main stand isn’t a patch on ours. Ours is ok. Not brilliant. Serves well when it’s full and bouncing. Yes I went when Justin Hoyt scored us an OG and Amdy Faye was sent off. It was alright. Similar to ours. Any stadium is good when it's full and bouncing. I've even been impressed at Fratton Park. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Nov 13, 2020 11:00:18 GMT
This news paper article was originally printed in 2016. Obviously updated and reprinted nonsense.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 13, 2020 11:02:09 GMT
It’s a shit ground to be honest. It’s not as bad as it was when we first moved there but it’s still quite a bland stadium. It would be improved no end by knocking down the boothen end and rebuilding a completely new, original stand with a nice red brick facade and standing areas. Pie in the sky thinking of course. Nice idea. Maybe big bottle kilns in each corner with floodlights off the top. I’ve thought about something similar before. Not necessarily floodlights off the top as I’d still have them on the stadium roof like it is now. I’d have some sort of hospitality built into the kilns. The stands would have to be taller to incorporate the capacity lost from a lack of seating in the corners. The players would enter the pitch from the half way line. The concourse would be extended and modernised so that it doesn’t look as cold as it feels and there would be oatcakes sold too. Outside there would be a fan zone. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 11:43:22 GMT
Our ground has a reputation that other new ones don't have ..kind of like that. Is a windy, cold un-welcoming place which have no prob with and is far better than say The Riverside for example. Some will knock it no matter what but a good place to watch football
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Post by walrus on Nov 13, 2020 11:45:52 GMT
I like our ground’s weird quirks. What was a pretty strange architectural decision to leave open corners has in hindsight given the ground a sense of individual character that many near-identical new stadiums lack. I know new stadiums will very rarely better the old grounds they replaced in terms of character, but at least ours has some. Wasn’t really a architectural decision of sorts. More a money decision. We basically had around 15 million to spend on a new ground. And that was it. Including European grants. The club went to a couple of architects said draw us up some plans within that budget and the one we had came in top. The other had four open corners ! We just didn’t have any money. If we had lots of money we could have ploughed it into redeveloping The Vic. Interesting. I’m surprised that building closed corners is significantly more expensive but I’m no architect. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2020 12:00:09 GMT
I saw the original plans before the Britannia deal and the awful multi coloured seats to make it look fuller. Idea was taken from Superdome in St Louis. We had a low budget as someone said and reliant on grants and did a pretty good job to be fair at the time.
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Post by hardcastle on Nov 13, 2020 12:16:44 GMT
Few us us have really liked the new ground other than when it's been full and noisy. And then, who cares about the design, it's the football we've come to see. But the earlier poster was spot on - the board and Jez Moxey sqeezed just about as much as they could out of the £15 million that we had to spend. Had we had twice the budget obviously we could have made a better job of it.
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