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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 12, 2020 13:53:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 14:01:38 GMT
It should return in the Championship, and League's One and Two as the amount of games is phenomenal.
What I would do though is say that a minimum of 2 of the 5 subs have to be home grown under 23 players, that seems like a reasonable compromise to make it a fairer level playing field for the Rotherham's and Wycombe's of this world......
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Post by spiderpuss on Nov 12, 2020 14:15:13 GMT
It should return in the Championship, and League's One and Two as the amount of games is phenomenal. What I would do though is say that a minimum of 2 of the 5 subs have to be home grown under 23 players, that seems like a reasonable compromise to make it a fairer level playing field for the Rotherham's and Wycombe's of this world...... Perhaps a minimum of 2 must have a surname of "Bauer" or "Wimmer"? |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 12, 2020 14:34:29 GMT
It should return in the Championship, and League's One and Two as the amount of games is phenomenal. What I would do though is say that a minimum of 2 of the 5 subs have to be home grown under 23 players, that seems like a reasonable compromise to make it a fairer level playing field for the Rotherham's and Wycombe's of this world...... That was a lucid, well thought out suggestion Mr pesrtwichpotter...overruled!  |
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Post by jezzascfc on Nov 12, 2020 15:25:13 GMT
It could only serve to benefit us with the large squad we have and the games coming thick and fast. It would mean we could start most games with our strongest XI, but know that we could rest a few more later in the game if we are in a good position, or instead not start some of the potential match winners in tough away games, keep it tight and look to bring them on later in the game if we need their help to get some points from the game.
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Post by apb1 on Nov 12, 2020 15:56:33 GMT
Having 9 on the bench is good too. Never understood why, once the squad system was formalised, we couldn't just allow clubs to have all eligible players in the match day squad. Lack of focus for warm ups etc? Do we have to pay appearance fee if in squad? Not enough room on the bench? The latter is now sorted I think!
It does have the potential to break up play so the limits on 'occasions' are a must.
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Post by jezzascfc on Nov 12, 2020 16:17:01 GMT
Having 9 on the bench is good too. Never understood why, once the squad system was formalised, we couldn't just allow clubs to have all eligible players in the match day squad. Lack of focus for warm ups etc? Do we have to pay appearance fee if in squad? Not enough room on the bench? The latter is now sorted I think! It does have the potential to break up play so the limits on 'occasions' are a must. Agreed - as they provided for when they allowed it last time. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2020 17:15:09 GMT
thought the 5 subs/3 sub 'window' rule was very good
agree with the assertion re younger players on the bench
would allow 9 on the bench, 3 have to be under 23's
think managers would give more minutes to young players
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Post by teenagefanclub on Nov 12, 2020 18:35:12 GMT
The little known Enid Blyton book about the Russian navy.
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2020 18:38:04 GMT
The little known Enid Blyton book about the Russian navy. Five go mad off the coast of Sweden? |
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Post by Goonie on Nov 12, 2020 18:38:41 GMT
It should return in the Championship, and League's One and Two as the amount of games is phenomenal. What I would do though is say that a minimum of 2 of the 5 subs have to be home grown under 23 players, that seems like a reasonable compromise to make it a fairer level playing field for the Rotherham's and Wycombe's of this world...... Perhaps a minimum of 2 must have a surname of "Bauer" or "Wimmer"? I dont this is the time or place to introduce a handicapping system 🤣 |
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Post by jonso on Nov 12, 2020 18:42:20 GMT
It should return in the Championship, and League's One and Two as the amount of games is phenomenal. What I would do though is say that a minimum of 2 of the 5 subs have to be home grown under 23 players, that seems like a reasonable compromise to make it a fairer level playing field for the Rotherham's and Wycombe's of this world...... That was a lucid, well thought out suggestion Mr pesrtwichpotter...overruled! My Cousin Vinny! Classic. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2020 18:58:30 GMT
A nonsense of a rule. Games are better off without and managers should rotate their squad and think about using their squads better that way.
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Post by pretzel on Nov 12, 2020 21:56:52 GMT
It does have the potential to break up play so the limits on 'occasions' are a must. Here's an idea... why does the game have to stop to make a substitution? Just get the 4th official to do the handover and bring a sub on in the same way you'd bring a player back on the pitch after an injury. Would stop this bullshit of players slowly ambling off the pitch to waste time and break up the flow of the game. |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Nov 12, 2020 22:01:10 GMT
They'll be wanting mid half drinks breaks again as well.
I've said before, you've got a named 25 man squad and unlimited homegrown players to use. Should rotate and abide by the rules set out.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 12, 2020 22:29:44 GMT
5 subs is shit.....too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting.
Teams should just rotate their squads better.
If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 12, 2020 22:33:50 GMT
It does have the potential to break up play so the limits on 'occasions' are a must. Here's an idea... why does the game have to stop to make a substitution? Just get the 4th official to do the handover and bring a sub on in the same way you'd bring a player back on the pitch after an injury. Would stop this bullshit of players slowly ambling off the pitch to waste time and break up the flow of the game. Why not, sounds feasible, I'm sure they do it in other sports. Subs invariably take 2-3 minutes these days Players who know they are going to get subbed invariably go down just before that, receive treatment for faked injury and then amble off, while all the team mates go to the touchline for a chat and drinks. Its crap. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2020 22:40:05 GMT
5 subs is shit..... too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting.
Teams should just rotate their squads better. If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown. It's no different to the current set up, you can still only make subs on three occasions...... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 12, 2020 22:43:29 GMT
5 subs is shit..... too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting.
Teams should just rotate their squads better. If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown. It's no different to the current set up, you can still only make subs on three occasions...... Still too many changes though. It seemed pointless then and seems more so now. They need to suck it and get better at rotating their squads. |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 12, 2020 22:50:01 GMT
5 subs is shit..... too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting.
Teams should just rotate their squads better. If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown. It's no different to the current set up, you can still only make subs on three occasions...... Good point..but it never quite works out like that.... it takes a friggin age for subs and when they do the 2 subs they always do them one at a time. It's so tedious. They have so many officials they could do it in one go. Should be more like Basketball |
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 12, 2020 23:08:49 GMT
pah! subs are for wimps!
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2020 23:13:12 GMT
It's no different to the current set up, you can still only make subs on three occasions...... Still too many changes though. It seemed pointless then and seems more so now. They need to suck it and get better at rotating their squads. Before the 9 matches it was tried in would have agreed with you In practice was surprised just how well it worked. The subs 'windows' was a clever idea which worked |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 17, 2020 13:54:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 13:59:06 GMT
It's no different to the current set up, you can still only make subs on three occasions...... Good point..but it never quite works out like that.... it takes a friggin age for subs and when they do the 2 subs they always do them one at a time. It's so tedious. They have so many officials they could do it in one go. Should be more like Basketball It can be as tedious as it wants. No fucker is there watching anyway. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 17, 2020 14:14:32 GMT
5 subs is shit.....too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting. Teams should just rotate their squads better. If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown. Spot on - just an excuse to disrupt flow in a lot of cases and take more than the 30 secs that refs nominally add per sub.......load of crap....3 max or as you say two and a goalie.... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 15:12:29 GMT
5 subs is shit.....too many disruptions to the game and gets mis-used for time wasting. Teams should just rotate their squads better. If I had my way I would go back to 2 subs in post Lockdown. The way it works in Europe is not five substitutions during a game; it's three during the game, consisting of up to three at a time and not more than five in all. "Just rotate" the squad bringing in Ince, Cousins, Vokes, and Gregory, not to mention Batth, Chester in one game and watch the fallout on these pages. There will be mayhem! Next thing you'll be saying only substitutions if a player's leg is visibly broken. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2020 15:19:21 GMT
Lazy arsed managers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 15:20:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2020 15:23:09 GMT
They have a squad of 25 and they should use them. Makes it all far more interesting too and makes them think more hence why they won't want to do it. We don't need 5 subs, it's an awful idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 15:29:51 GMT
They have a squad of 25 and they should use them. Makes it all far more interesting too and makes them think more hence why they won't want to do it. We don't need 5 subs, it's an awful idea. Leagues around Europe have suffered anything from a 15% - 40% rise in players suffering muscle injuries, this Championship season (excluding International breaks) is pretty much 3 games a week non-stop at the moment. That's without factoring in players standing down die to Covid. I personally would have amended the rule so at least two of the subs had to be homegrown under-23 players, but it's a sensible ruling based on the current climate that can be changed straight back when we get back to normality...... |
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