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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 3:21:41 GMT
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Post by jewsbury on Oct 3, 2020 3:21:41 GMT
Saw on sky skirts today that clucas has joint second most chances created in the league so far
seen a lot of posts claiming he’s started the season poorly
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Post by nott1 on Oct 3, 2020 5:46:15 GMT
Even when he is not playing his best he's one of our best players!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 3, 2020 5:56:35 GMT
Do they include the two dreadful back passes that could have given away two goals?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 6:06:55 GMT
Saw on sky skirts today that clucas has joint second most chances created in the league so far I've heard he's compleated the most passes too.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 6:22:35 GMT
Going forward Clucas is a very good player, he also has this ability to get into good position and score a fair number of goals. In my opinion his weakness lies in his defensive work, not that he isn't working hard enough, but I think his decision making and positioning at times could be questioned. Despite of this Sam Clucas is an asset to every Championship club, no doubt about that.
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 3, 2020 7:12:41 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him.
My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides.
If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 7:21:48 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 7:21:48 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too I suspect it will be Mikel, Clucas and Allen for most games this season.
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 7:28:27 GMT
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Post by shrewspotter on Oct 3, 2020 7:28:27 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too I suspect it will be Mikel, Clucas and Allen for most games this season. you would think so, but TOB and Thompson are making strong cases whilst nobody can deny Powell’s talents.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 3, 2020 8:47:08 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too Pretty much my thoughts on him. With the quality he has and his physical attributes he should be bossing games at this level but he goes missing for large periods far too often.
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 9:07:17 GMT
Post by tachyon on Oct 3, 2020 9:07:17 GMT
Saw on sky skirts today that clucas has joint second most chances created in the league so far seen a lot of posts claiming he’s started the season poorly A bit of context. He's provided the final pass for 0.46 expected goals in the Championship this season. That's 0.15 per 90 or an average of a likely credited assist once every 6.5 games. That's a little bit better than 2018/19 and a bit worse than 2019/20. He created just over a chance per game in 2018/19, just under two chances per game in 2019/20 and he's currently creating just under three chances per game in the three games so far. But, the bulk of the chances he's created in 2020/21 have been from either corner kicks or crosses, they've been headed chances and just two have been from genuine open play. His link with Campbell at Millwall's been the best, with a fair bit of the post pass work done by the former. Overall, they're generally low quality chances. The quality of chances he helped create in 2019/20 & 2018/19 would result in a goal around once every 10 opportunities. Currently it's once every 20. Bottom line, he's upped his quantity (the Sky stat), but lowered his quality & has a heavy reliance on corner deliveries. Only October, mind.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 3, 2020 9:57:48 GMT
Clucas does some good stuff, but he flits in and out of games to much!!!
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Post by Championship Potter on Oct 3, 2020 10:21:31 GMT
Think the simple fact is if he could boss a game and do all of the defensive work he wouldn't be playing for us. Personally think he's been fine this season and more than worth his place for his goal scoring and chance creation.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 3, 2020 12:06:54 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too I've never really rated him either.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Oct 3, 2020 12:46:36 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides.
If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too Clucas obviously brings a lot to the team, especially his goal threat, but I have the same issue as you. Midfield should be our strength and yet, as you say, we are often outclassed there - strangely when we have our supposedly strongest individuals on the pitch. Our tactics often by-pass the midfield altogether when we have first team out and our best midfield performances have been from our second-string (?) combinations. It’s baffling.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 3, 2020 12:53:07 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too I suspect it will be Mikel, Clucas and Allen for most games this season. Hopefully Tymon has claimed a starting place before Allen gets back.
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Post by kerouac on Oct 3, 2020 13:06:23 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too Pretty much my thoughts on him. With the quality he has and his physical attributes he should be bossing games at this level but he goes missing for large periods I got pillared for saying the same thing a while back and was bombarded with stats etc etc.... He goes missing far too regularly which is frustrating as he’s got so much to offer.If hes dropped it may give him a kick up the arse,I suspect it’s been a bit too easy for him re selection,and competition from TOB and Thompson (what an improved player he is) and hopefully Allen soon may spur him on.
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 13:45:57 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 3, 2020 13:45:57 GMT
Pretty much my thoughts on him. With the quality he has and his physical attributes he should be bossing games at this level but he goes missing for large periods I got pillared for saying the same thing a while back and was bombarded with stats etc etc.... He goes missing far too regularly which is frustrating as he’s got so much to offer.If hes dropped it may give him a kick up the arse,I suspect it’s been a bit too easy for him re selection,and competition from TOB and Thompson (what an improved player he is) and hopefully Allen soon may spur him on. Its a tough one because without his goals last season there’s a very good chance we’d have gone down. But there were many games last season where he may as well have not been on the pitch. His form straight after lockdown was very poor. I remember O’Neil giving him a right bollocking during the drinks break in the Wigan game. He could easily have dropped him after that game but instead decided to give him the captains armband which certainly had an impact because he was superb for the last few games. He’s started this season much like he started back after lockdown, hopefully he’s just a slow starter and will grow into the season. His place certainly isn’t guaranteed anymore though so hopefully the added competition will be a kick up the backside for him.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 14:12:55 GMT
I suspect it will be Mikel, Clucas and Allen for most games this season. you would think so, but TOB and Thompson are making strong cases whilst nobody can deny Powell’s talents. I agree to that as well!
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 14:15:52 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 14:15:52 GMT
I suspect it will be Mikel, Clucas and Allen for most games this season. Hopefully Tymon has claimed a starting place before Allen gets back. Think he will be used mostly as a wingback in a 5 3 2 or as a left midfielder in a 3 4 3.
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Clucas
Oct 3, 2020 23:39:20 GMT
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Post by musik on Oct 3, 2020 23:39:20 GMT
Is he as good this season?
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 0:47:23 GMT
Post by hotpot on Oct 4, 2020 0:47:23 GMT
Clucas plays like a brainless headless chook with scant defensive qualities , and only for himself. He really needs to lift his work rate and play with more intelligence. Tymon and Thompson are more dependable and steady on the left than him.
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 2:11:00 GMT
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Post by Bagwash on Oct 4, 2020 2:11:00 GMT
Thompson,especially has really impressed me the last few games.Definately a strong shout for being in the starting 11 later.
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 7:45:29 GMT
Post by chell_rosey on Oct 4, 2020 7:45:29 GMT
Do they include the two dreadful back passes that could have given away two goals? Ouch....
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 19:07:10 GMT
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Post by jarvinski on Oct 4, 2020 19:07:10 GMT
Fact:- Clucas is useless
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 20:21:22 GMT
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Post by questionable on Oct 4, 2020 20:21:22 GMT
Tin hat on but I’ve never really rated him. My gripe is that he never seems to run the midfield in the way top drawer midfielders do. For reasons I’m not sure we are quite often bossed in that department even against lower championship sides. If we are playing a 3 in the centre it would be Mikel holding with TOB and either Powell or Thompson in, then we have Joe Allen to come back and he nudges out Clucas in my opinion too Pretty much my thoughts on him. With the quality he has and his physical attributes he should be bossing games at this level but he goes missing for large periods far too often. Same here he’s basic at best, pretty much standard for our standard team/club, perhaps has one good game in ten maximum, the other 9 totally anonymous.
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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 21:50:33 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 4, 2020 21:50:33 GMT
This system clearly doesn’t suit him another reason it’s flawed . I really fear 3 5. 2 might be the new diamond
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 5, 2020 3:15:34 GMT
Another performance where I didn't rate him. He's put in some decent corners but Thompson has shown he can do that too.
Must be close to being dropped?
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