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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2020 13:25:20 GMT
Yeah it didn't make sense.
Whereas not playing Kane for Rashford or DLC does seem logical to me anyway!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2020 13:27:50 GMT
Like policemen getting younger, a surefire sign of ageing is there being players in the England squad you're not familiar with, and for the first time today I genuinely had to think hard who the f**k Bukayo Saka was.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 13:34:00 GMT
Calvert-Lewin rapid... I’ve read it all now on here. He’s been a donkey until this season, hope it continues for him but Harry Kane is Harry Kane. You're totally wrong lad, he's not got the best first touch but he's fast as fuck. You can be fast and a bit of a donkey.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 14:14:52 GMT
30-man England squad in full:
Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope.
Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Michael Keane, Harry Maguire, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Tyrone Mings, Bukayo Saka, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker.
Midfielders: Jordan Henderson, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse, Harry Winks.
Forwards: Tammy Abraham, Harvey Barnes, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Jack Grealish, Danny Ings, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2020 14:20:16 GMT
Our centre half options are lamentable aren't they.
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Post by lordb on Oct 1, 2020 14:22:41 GMT
30-man England squad in full:Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope. Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Michael Keane, Harry Maguire, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Tyrone Mings, Bukayo Saka, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker. Midfielders: Jordan Henderson, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse, Harry Winks. Forwards: Tammy Abraham, Harvey Barnes, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Jack Grealish, Danny Ings, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling. Foden and Greenwood not called up after they caused the manager a problem in Iceland. Long term of course both should be in the squad, for now not picking them is good management, sends out a strong message Edit: given Maguire has a reprieve they should be in the next squad.
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Post by wrighter on Oct 1, 2020 14:29:45 GMT
Pickford !!!!!!
why ?
absolute dross of a keeper
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2020 14:39:43 GMT
Our centre half options are lamentable aren't they. The central midfield is potentially worse?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2020 14:43:28 GMT
Our centre half options are lamentable aren't they. The central midfield is potentially worse? Looking at it now, it really is. At least Foden will, you'd hope, come back in and there are people like RLC who can still come good with a bit of luck.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 14:44:52 GMT
Our centre half options are lamentable aren't they. 27 right backs in the mix though. Holgate and Maguire seem to be the best mix for me once Holgate is fit obviously, or Holgate-Maguire-Gomez in a back three.......
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 1, 2020 14:55:59 GMT
Our centre half options are lamentable aren't they. 27 right backs in the mix though. Holgate and Maguire seem to be the best mix for me once Holgate is fit obviously, or Holgate-Maguire-Gomez in a back three....... I thought Gomez was going to be an absolute superstar at one point, hopefully he can get back to his best.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 15:11:35 GMT
It’d be a shame for Foden and Greenwood to be denied England careers / top appearances honours because of a bit of Icelandic m!nge.
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 1, 2020 16:28:01 GMT
It’d be a shame for Foden and Greenwood to be denied England careers / top appearances honours because of a bit of Icelandic m!nge. They won't be. He's got to make a point otherwise it would be anarchy.
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Post by pmjh on Oct 1, 2020 16:45:00 GMT
Calvert-lewin is on fire and deserves his place in the squad. But Harry Kane is a superb all round player . You rarely get a centre forward of his type who can spray passes around the pitch. Add to this his work rate and I can't believe anybody would even consider replacing him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 1, 2020 22:54:28 GMT
The central midfield is potentially worse? Looking at it now, it really is. At least Foden will, you'd hope, come back in and there are people like RLC who can still come good with a bit of luck. Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 2, 2020 6:05:05 GMT
Looking at it now, it really is. At least Foden will, you'd hope, come back in and there are people like RLC who can still come good with a bit of luck. Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out. I rate Phillips - I could see him being better than Rice long term.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 6:21:59 GMT
Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out. I rate Phillips - I could see him being better than Rice long term. Agree, and his game is getting more expansive under Bielsa......
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 2, 2020 6:49:23 GMT
Some of the derogatory comments towards Calvert-Lewin are rather odd. I've watched a lot of him the past couple of seasons and he's on an upward curve of improvement. Is he better than Kane? No, of course not. However, to call him a donkey and the like is over the top... not like the Oatcake at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 7:10:54 GMT
Ancellotti said that when he had Inzagi, he scored 85% of his goals with one touch. Over 300 goals without the first touch, just shoot on first touch. He’s doing that to DCL
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2020 9:10:42 GMT
Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out. I rate Phillips - I could see him being better than Rice long term. I haven't seen much of him tbh but keep hearing this. We need him so here's hoping!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2020 9:12:13 GMT
Ancellotti said that when he had Inzagi, he scored 85% of his goals with one touch. Over 300 goals without the first touch, just shoot on first touch. He’s doing that to DCL Inzaghi is one of my favourite strikers. It's why I don't care about running Calvert-Lewin is someone I've liked for years too tbh. Not sure why he just seemed like someone who we could have maybe got and he could have got the 10 goals a PL season to keep us up
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 2, 2020 9:30:10 GMT
He’s certainly worth a place in the squad based on form under Ancelotti. Think when Ancelotti first came in he said Calvert Lewin was and International class striker which must have given a lot of confidence. There’s definitely a correlation between a manager who gives a player belief and an upturn in form. But, Harry Kane is a superb all round striker who has barely any weeknesses, absolute shoe in up front. The Sterling/Rashford/Sancho conundrum is where Calvert Lewin should be getting a look in
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 2, 2020 9:33:50 GMT
Looking at it now, it really is. At least Foden will, you'd hope, come back in and there are people like RLC who can still come good with a bit of luck. Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out. I actually think we have a lot of options in midfield but Southgate is yet to find the right blend and indeed formation to suit the players at his disposal. We have lot of talented, technical footballers in that area but are lacking that enforcer type. I don’t see anything wrong with playing Henderson as the deeper midfielder with the likes of Foden, Grealish etc to be the creative players.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 2, 2020 9:34:13 GMT
He’s certainly worth a place in the squad based on form under Ancelotti. Think when Ancelotti first came in he said Calvert Lewin was and International class striker which must have given a lot of confidence. There’s definitely a correlation between a manager who gives a player belief and an upturn in form. But, Harry Kane is a superb all round striker who has barely any weeknesses, absolute shoe in up front. The Sterling/Rashford/Sancho conundrum is where Calvert Lewin should be getting a look in Doesn't really play to his strengths doing that though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2020 9:40:34 GMT
Yeah Foden is the standout and I forgot about RLC. Bloody good player but seems so brittle? And then in the 21s there’s a lot of decent players but bar Bellingham is there anyone with massive potential? And there’s not really defensive sort of player unless Rice is turns out as good as is made out. I actually think we have a lot of options in midfield but Southgate is yet to find the right blend and indeed formation to suit the players at his disposal. We have lot of talented, technical footballers in that area but are lacking that enforcer type. I don’t see anything wrong with playing Henderson as the deeper midfielder with the likes of Foden, Grealish etc to be the creative players. Yeah there's no bollocks to it for sure. Even someone just displined who can stay and pass and dictate the game tempo.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 2, 2020 9:42:52 GMT
He’s certainly worth a place in the squad based on form under Ancelotti. Think when Ancelotti first came in he said Calvert Lewin was and International class striker which must have given a lot of confidence. There’s definitely a correlation between a manager who gives a player belief and an upturn in form. But, Harry Kane is a superb all round striker who has barely any weeknesses, absolute shoe in up front. The Sterling/Rashford/Sancho conundrum is where Calvert Lewin should be getting a look in Doesn't really play to his strengths doing that though? Yeh I know, so really he could only play in a two with Kane. Worth an experiment maybe
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 2, 2020 9:49:28 GMT
Doesn't really play to his strengths doing that though? Yeh I know, so really he could only play in a two with Kane. Worth an experiment maybe Certainly worth looking at something like that or that could incorporate a Grealish or a Maddison somewhere, as there are signs Southgate's Plan A is looking a bit tired.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 0:11:42 GMT
30-man England squad in full:Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope. Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Michael Keane, Harry Maguire, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Tyrone Mings, Bukayo Saka, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker. Midfielders: Jordan Henderson, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse, Harry Winks. Forwards: Tammy Abraham, Harvey Barnes, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Jack Grealish, Danny Ings, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling. We never seem to be able to generate a well rounded squad do we? On the counter, there is a lot of speed and goals in that attack. Alexander-Arnold is also excellent. What has happened to our goalkeeping and centre back options? Do international teams have any sway when it comes to development of players? You’d think that an astute manager would look at the squad they have in front of them, see the holes and look as to who could be trained up to fill those holes. Potentially, this could include suggesting decent loans for young players in need of real game time, or telling the player exactly what areas they need him to develop in with regards to the international set up.
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Post by zerps on Oct 3, 2020 5:55:18 GMT
It’s like Crouch says.
Kane does everything 9 out of 10.
We need him in there.
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Post by werrington on Oct 3, 2020 14:25:04 GMT
Scored again
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