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Post by teenagefanclub on Sept 28, 2020 14:55:16 GMT
Has the gap in the Premier league grown wider than when we last went up? Would there be any point in hoping we go up? Would we just come straight back down?
*The questions could be posed to any other championship club, is there any point in it anymore?
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Post by nott1 on Sept 28, 2020 14:58:18 GMT
We'd need a massive spend, hardly any players good enough!
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 28, 2020 14:59:12 GMT
Don't worry yourself. We aren't going up any time soon. Gouranga.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 15:01:01 GMT
No different to last time and we managed 10 years
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 28, 2020 15:09:55 GMT
Not at the moment no we are very much a work in progress as are 23 other clubs in the championship.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 28, 2020 15:21:27 GMT
No let's just hope we finish seventh or lose in the playoffs
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 15:26:04 GMT
Last time we had a fairly awful squad (as individuals) so it’d be no different really. If we achieve promotion then by definition something is working - so we’d build on that.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 28, 2020 15:27:04 GMT
Has the gap in the Premier league grown wider than when we last went up? Would there be any point in hoping we go up? Would we just come straight back down? *The questions could be posed to any other championship club, is there any point in it anymore? Do you work for Paddy Power by any chance? I say this because they made us favourites for relegation when we last got promoted and that turned out badly for them and fine for us. Obviously staying up after promotion is difficult but there are many clubs in the top half of the Premier League who reached it years after we did and they are obviously coping fine. I'd go so far as to say that there are a few clubs of modest means who are making some of the richest clubs in the Premier League look as if money isn't everything. Have a look at the Premier League table at the moment. Obviously it is very early days, but Leicester, Crystal Palace, Leeds, Newcastle, Villa and Brighton are all in the top 12 and all of them were promoted far later than we were and none of them are mega rich clubs by our standards. Obviously Villa, Leeds and Newcastle have a great pedigree and more fans than us but the rest are pretty much middling clubs in terms of resources and fan base, much like ourselves. I can't think of a better way to get relegated after promotion to the Premier League than for fans, players and management to take a defeatist attitude and think that there is a good chance of coming straight back down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 15:41:57 GMT
A season up and down would help us no end. We could finally rid ourselves of the dross and, providing we were sensible with it this time, we could really build a solid squad of the right profile right off the back of it.
Alternatively, we could go up and stay up.
What a daft question. Of course there is a point in going up, a huge point!
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 28, 2020 15:49:36 GMT
The gap is likely to get bigger if the Premier League have anything to do it - they want wage caps in the Championship but not the PL, for example.
I think any team promoted from the Championship has a chance of competing well in the Premier League. Sheffield United, only last season, are the most recent to defy expectations. You could say Wolves too (and we've just beaten a strongish Wolves team with our reserves). I don't think the Premier League is a great league apart from a few at the top, and other teams who may punch above their weight for a season or two.
When Stoke were promoted, I remember being daunted at the fixtures wondering where any points were going to come from. Now a few of those teams are even below us. So despite my opening sentence, I don't think the gap is wider now. Mid-table at least seems more achievable considering we achieved it for so long, and you'd hope lessons have been learnt in that we were relegated at the first sign of trouble. If we are promoted this season or next, the two poor seasons down in the Championship are a great reminder of not resting on our laurels too.
I'd be very excited about a return to the Premier League, for all its faults.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 28, 2020 15:53:14 GMT
To be fair I prefer being in the Championship with Wycombe, watching shit football played by shit footballers and not having a hope in hell of winning a trophy. Give me a good 1-0 away win at Rotherham over demolishing Liverpool 6-1 any time.
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Post by zerps on Sept 28, 2020 15:56:14 GMT
It’s where we belong even if var is a complete joke. What’s the point if we’re not aiming for the top?
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 28, 2020 16:10:12 GMT
Personally I’d like us to lose in 90th minute of the play off final. Fuck this promotion business, it’s a scam!
Of course there is a point to going up, we want to be competing in the top league of English football again. Regardless of the gap between us and the top 4, fuck em, we’ll have em.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 28, 2020 16:15:57 GMT
Football is all about dreaming, regardless of whether the dream is unrealistic, or doomed to turn into a nightmare.
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Post by lordb on Sept 28, 2020 16:16:44 GMT
we've never been a yo yo club if we go up we will stay up for a while (years)
don't think we will go up this season myself , probably be 7th to 10th
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 28, 2020 16:18:24 GMT
we've never been a yo yo club if we go up we will stay up for a while (years) don't think we will go up this season myself , probably be 7th to 10th Someone mentioned Wolves.... we've the money to emulate them but not the expertise.
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Post by lordb on Sept 28, 2020 16:20:49 GMT
we've never been a yo yo club if we go up we will stay up for a while (years) don't think we will go up this season myself , probably be 7th to 10th Someone mentioned Wolves.... we've the money to emulate them but not the expertise. or the dubious links with a 'super agent'
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 28, 2020 16:24:02 GMT
Someone mentioned Wolves.... we've the money to emulate them but not the expertise. or the dubious links with a 'super agent' Part of the expertise!
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 28, 2020 16:26:34 GMT
Yep , we make a load of money to improve the club as long as we didn't waste it on shite .
Having said that I suspect its not something to trouble any of us for a good while yet.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 28, 2020 16:28:04 GMT
We are not a yo yo club like WBA.
When we get promoted, we seem to stay for a while, likewise when we get relegated, it takes a while before we go back up.
If we did go up though, at least we will have some Premiership money to spend if we went straight down again.
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 28, 2020 16:29:09 GMT
Whatever else, promotion and immediate relegation would give us Premier League Sky TV money for a year and then trigger the parachute payments again and provide funds for squad rebuilding, as well as give us an idea if any of our youngsters can hack it in the top league.
Aside from that, 100% the joy of a promotion season is worth it, irrespective of what happens afterwards.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 28, 2020 16:29:37 GMT
Has the gap in the Premier league grown wider than when we last went up? Would there be any point in hoping we go up? Would we just come straight back down? *The questions could be posed to any other championship club, is there any point in it anymore? That's exactly what they said the last time we went up by the way! Look at Sheffield United last season or Villa that both stayed up! Just going up and being relegated would even give us a better platform to build from financially.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 28, 2020 16:31:56 GMT
we've never been a yo yo club if we go up we will stay up for a while (years) don't think we will go up this season myself , probably be 7th to 10th We will be lucky to get in to the top half and this is a poor league, our recent transfer dealings have fcuked the club up for possibly ten years, we have more players out on loan than Chelsea.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 28, 2020 16:33:40 GMT
Has the gap in the Premier league grown wider than when we last went up? Would there be any point in hoping we go up? Would we just come straight back down? *The questions could be posed to any other championship club, is there any point in it anymore? I can think of about 200 million reasons and a complete reset of our FFP stats plus the parachute payments.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 16:36:53 GMT
You could say at the start of of any Prem season that one of perhaps 14 teams could go down. Not convinced re Wolves, spending big and if the transfers don't work it could back fire this season, Brighton been impressive in the market.
It just takes one window of poor recruiting to change things but why wouldn't you want to be in the Premier League ? Playing Bristol City doesn't make me leap from bed like a rampant Tree Loris these Saturday mornings
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 16:43:07 GMT
No different to last time and we managed 10 years Question is will the owners back us financially in view of how much money was wasted in those ten years and still counting. Do they still believe in sustainability.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 16:44:13 GMT
we've never been a yo yo club if we go up we will stay up for a while (years) don't think we will go up this season myself , probably be 7th to 10th We will be lucky to get in to the top half and this is a poor league, our recent transfer dealings have fcuked the club up for possibly ten years, we have more players out on loan than Chelsea. No we don't, but it's a good lie.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 28, 2020 16:52:08 GMT
Has the gap in the Premier league grown wider than when we last went up? Would there be any point in hoping we go up? Would we just come straight back down? *The questions could be posed to any other championship club, is there any point in it anymore? The current squad is no where near good enough. We would need a squad that would romp the Championship and to be added to. The EPL is (IMHO) the only place to be. To aspire to nothing more than the EFL is an acceptance of 2nd.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 16:57:52 GMT
No different to last time and we managed 10 years Question is will the owners back us financially in view of how much money was wasted in those ten years and still counting. Do they still believe in sustainability. Why wouldn't they? Great exposure for them and the rewards are too great. It's a huge risk but they threw money at Rowett to get back suggesting is where they want to be and FFP the restriction we have now which they have publically spoken out against.
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Post by mowlee on Sept 28, 2020 16:59:47 GMT
No chance were going up.. mid table.. we got let off the hook with the sending off on sat.. Preston we’re all over us until then an we ain’t going too get favours like that every week. Will be interesting too see what the Coates family would be happy with at the end of the season.. would they be happy with mid table an by the end of this season o’neil would of been in charge of us a year an 6/7 months.. that’s a fair amount of time too put ya own stamp on things.. would the Coates sack him or give him another season.. personally if we don’t make the play off it’s a failure for me.. weld the axe an get Hougton in.. proven too get teams promoted an proven too keep teams in the prem
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