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Post by bloodtypered on Sept 26, 2020 22:28:25 GMT
...here we go again
Rediculous decisions today, to put it mildly...its got to stop!!!
Hodgson said how has everyone in football let it get to this point?
Everyones fed up of it
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Post by lordb on Sept 26, 2020 22:29:06 GMT
Yes
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Post by datguy on Sept 26, 2020 22:32:35 GMT
Absolutely no way was that a handball on Ward.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 26, 2020 22:36:04 GMT
Absolutely
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 26, 2020 22:36:20 GMT
Hodgson is spot on in his post match comments about handball and yes VAR has/is killing the game
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2020 22:38:21 GMT
What the fuck even is that penalty for?
Absolute joke of a rule.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 22:42:06 GMT
its proper cack.
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Post by swipers on Sept 26, 2020 22:42:59 GMT
I'll take the United result though... Kerching!
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Post by walton corner on Sept 26, 2020 22:43:26 GMT
Good job VAR not in championship or it would have over turned that red today and we probably would have lost .....so until we in league with VAR ....not bothered
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 26, 2020 22:46:47 GMT
Resounding YES
It's making refereeing worse
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Post by blackpoolred on Sept 26, 2020 22:47:53 GMT
It supposed to have made things black or white - instead it has caused more confusion than ever, things are still left to interpretation, one handball can be given in one match and exactly the same incident not given in another.
I cant understand why we can't just have in-game technology that signifies instantly to the ref/crowd whether the player is off-side or not and of course let us keep the goal line technology also - after that lets just leave it to the ref to feck up - and let us try and keep the bloody game going.
It has already become a boring slow tipp-tappy game, players rolling on the floor for 5 mins borefest - lets not slow it down further
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Post by Sfance on Sept 26, 2020 23:03:51 GMT
Yes.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 26, 2020 23:12:52 GMT
The rules are the problem not VAR
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 26, 2020 23:56:45 GMT
The rules are the problem not VAR Yea only partly true though i would say though that VAR is a) impacting negatively on the standard of refereeing. b) slowing the game down to an unbearable level these are problems created by VAR |
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 27, 2020 5:58:03 GMT
The rules are the problem not VAR Your right it’s the new handball rule for the Everton game that’s at fault not the VAR. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 27, 2020 6:11:51 GMT
The rules are the problem not VAR Exactly. For me it's there to stop corrupt refs like we had in the prem, and still do now in the main. Handball has gone stupid and not clear, but the amount of times an offside or devision missed has been corrected by var has been more than its got it wrong. It just needs be run properly. I wish we had it in the prem, we'd still be there now. |
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Post by walrus on Sept 27, 2020 7:19:04 GMT
I’ve never been a fan of VAR but watched Brighton v Man Utd yesterday and for what it’s worth think all three big video assisted decisions were got right.
1) They were right to overturn Brighton’s penalty early in the second half. Never a foul.
2) Rashford’s goal shortly after was correctly ruled offside and disallowed.
3) The late handball penalty was indeed a handball for me.
HOWEVER...
I still have gripes with two of those events.
1) Why did the overturned penalty need to be referred for on-pitch review? It was clearly not a penalty. The VAR could have seen this no problem. This meant what should have been a 30 second stoppage lasted two minutes.
2) The linesman would clearly have been able to see Rashford was offside but these days are told to keep their flag down. This is awful from the fans’ perspective. It’s rare I feel sorry for ManUre fans, but it’s never nice to think your team has scored only for it to be disallowed. A simple flag up would prevent that. The application of VAR appears to value technically correct decisions over everything else, forgetting that football is for the fans.
Then there were two incidents in yesterday’s other games that I have grievances with.
1) The handball in Palace v Everton. A lot has been said about handball and I’m not going to bother repeating it but the current interpretation - which was introduced to assist VAR - continues to cause enormous problems.
2) In the Burnley v Southampton game Chris Wood appeared to stay just onside before running through and scoring. The linesman disagreed and flagged. No VAR check was even carried out and the game restarted. On review of the footage it seems to have been a very marginal call, albeit a correct one. Given that the protocol is now to keep offside flags down and let VAR make the call, why did this not happen?
That’s five incidents in the space of three games. And only one of the five where I’d say the VAR application was perfect - Man Utd’s late penalty.
Doubtless there will be another five in today’s games.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 27, 2020 7:22:22 GMT
Yes.
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Post by wrighter on Sept 27, 2020 7:29:32 GMT
simple word.............. YES
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Post by zerps on Sept 27, 2020 7:37:00 GMT
Did you see Bardsleys booking yesterday aswell?
He pulled out of that tackle and hardly caught the youth.
Var should be used to review and send off the cheating cunt he hardly touched.
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Post by pmjh on Sept 27, 2020 8:03:12 GMT
V.A.R in principal has to be a good idea and works well in other sports, particularly rugby. It could do with some refining with it's application. For me more credence should be given to clear and obvious error. If the V.A.R or the ref has to look at a monitor for more than a couple of seconds to decide then it is not clear or obvious and the decision should stand. Also the V.A.R should not be calling the ref over to pitchside. if the V.A.R cannot advise the ref on the correct decision then it is not clear and obvious. The only time the ref should use the monitor is if he thinks he disagrees with the V.A.R and as the ref he should always have the final say.
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Post by chad on Sept 27, 2020 8:16:03 GMT
It’s garbage and needs binning
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 27, 2020 8:17:43 GMT
Hodgson is spot on in his post match comments about handball and yes VAR has/is killing the game Imo mate,Var is working better this season with the refs making more use of the pitch side monitor.The Ward handball decision as many have said was bloody disgraceful,but as the laws stand it was a handball.The laws regarding handball obviously need addressing,but we as spectators,managers and players have been asking for video evidence for years,and to make a judgement after 1 season is premature imo. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 27, 2020 8:18:06 GMT
You can’t celebrate properly as a fan now with the rules as they are
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 27, 2020 8:19:11 GMT
Refs need to use the monitor if VAR is going to work
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Post by franklin on Sept 27, 2020 8:20:28 GMT
VAR is unfortunately crap but as stated some of the rules regarding handball are just laughable. Some of the penalties are a disgrace booting the ball at an arm or a deflection onto the arm is not handball.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 27, 2020 8:21:42 GMT
Personally I think it is ruining sport as an enjoyable spectacle. OK it is morally right to reach the "correct" decision, but often they don't even do that as it is often down to a matter of opinion in whether a player had intent, or whether it was just accidental.
We cannot celebrate a goal now till someone has checked whether it is a goal, sometimes taking play back well before the goal was scored. Referees and linesmen are copping out of making decisions on the basis of someone will correct them if they got it wrong, and it is still a matter of opinion in many cases as to whether a decision goes to the VAR or not.
I personally think it has ruined rugby with the endless scrutinising, from every angle, of whether or not a try has been scored.
I'm afraid we have to accept as another step forward in mankind's progress. Texting destroyed spelling and grammar, mobile phones are destroying human contact, and now VAR is destroying the instant thrill of a sporting event and the continuity of the game. That's life.
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 27, 2020 8:26:47 GMT
...here we go again Rediculous decisions today, to put it mildly...its got to stop!!! Hodgson said how has everyone in football let it get to this point? Everyones fed up of it That isn't the fault of Var.The handball laws are the problem here. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 27, 2020 8:28:49 GMT
Hodgson is spot on in his post match comments about handball and yes VAR has/is killing the game Imo mate,Var is working better this season with the refs making more use of the pitch side monitor.The Ward handball decision as many have said was bloody disgraceful,but as the laws stand it was a handball.The laws regarding handball obviously need addressing,but we as spectators,managers and players have been asking for video evidence for years,and to make a judgement after 1 season is premature imo. For me mate it needs scrapping because eventually every single aspect of the game will be scrutinised which is not what we as fans want surely🤔 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2020 8:30:44 GMT
It adds absolutely nothing to watching the game.
It takes away so much.
Fuck it off.
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