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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 23, 2020 19:59:58 GMT
Obviously glad we’re through and hate to moan after a win but 2 goals in 5 competitive games is very poor. MON says it’s not the system, I tend to disagree 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2020 20:01:38 GMT
It does look like it might be a bit of a problem this season doesn't it.
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 23, 2020 20:05:46 GMT
One good goal disallowed, one cracking strike hit the bar, chances missed, could’ve easily been 3-0. Then not so toothless.
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 23, 2020 20:06:35 GMT
Obviously glad we’re through and hate to moan after a win but 2 goals in 5 competitive games is very poor. MON says it’s not the system, I tend to disagree 🤷🏻♂️ We created a lot of chances tonight though. Tymon's shot hit the bar, Brown's goal that was disallowed for no reason, Souttar should have stuck his chance away....on another night we'd have scored 3 or 4 in that game no bother. McClean on the left instead of Fox made a massive difference.
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Sept 23, 2020 20:06:41 GMT
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 23, 2020 20:06:41 GMT
It’s about as good as it’s gonna get
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 20:07:13 GMT
For what it’s worth I thought we simply cruised through in 1st gear and could easily have scored 3. I don’t recall Davies having anything of note to do.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2020 20:09:31 GMT
It will come.
Add a fit Mikel, Fletcher and Brown to that line up and we can play with more intensity than we currently are......
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 23, 2020 20:17:55 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 23, 2020 20:19:51 GMT
It will come. Add a fit Mikel, Fletcher and Brown to that line up and we can play with more intensity than we currently are...... I thought there was intensity tonight. You can only play what is front of you but Ive seen us struggle against similar sides. We cruised that but we moved the ball around well and with some urgency and purpose. There was more good performances than poor I thought only Gregory was poor and TOB needs to up his game a bit, Smith was a bit wasteful All others performed well.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 23, 2020 20:22:28 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit. i disagree, I thought Campbell had a decent game tonight. he was far more involved than usual. Brown is a gem and will only get better. I fully expect Flecher to replace the less than useless volkes once match fit.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2020 20:23:44 GMT
Wayne Rooneys lady of the night?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 23, 2020 20:34:05 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit. Campbell is not the reason for our lack of goals.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2020 20:37:56 GMT
It was a good finish by Campbell and when he’s in those positions he’s pretty ruthless but he needs to improve his all round game as a forward. Hope he will do that with a sustained run in the side. I don’t think we can afford to leave Fletcher out of the first eleven for another game. Brown is great to bring on last half hour.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 23, 2020 20:57:16 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit. Campbell is not the reason for our lack of goals. Staggering isn’t it, Beating Campbell over the head with the alternatives being woeful
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Post by slother on Sept 23, 2020 21:04:22 GMT
Obviously glad we’re through and hate to moan after a win but 2 goals in 5 competitive games is very poor. MON says it’s not the system, I tend to disagree 🤷🏻♂️ We created a lot of chances tonight though. Tymon's shot hit the bar, Brown's goal that was disallowed for no reason, Souttar should have stuck his chance away....on another night we'd have scored 3 or 4 in that game no bother. McClean on the left instead of Fox made a massive difference. You must be one of those xG guys 😂
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 24, 2020 7:44:28 GMT
If it's not the system,then it must be the players who can't play the system.
We will find it hard to get rid of players,to bring in players who will fit the system,so that leaves changing the system to suit the players we have.
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Post by RAF on Sept 24, 2020 7:48:19 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit. Did more in what way? Score? No Make more chances? Not really. To be fair your assessments of forwards have always been way off. Are you still campaigning for Saido? Clown. H
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Sept 24, 2020 7:59:45 GMT
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Post by zerps on Sept 24, 2020 7:59:45 GMT
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 24, 2020 8:10:30 GMT
I think it is quite obvious that the two forwards who played most of the game are no where near good enough to get us back into the top half of the Championship. Our goal was no better than schoolboy football. Fletcher and Brown did more in ten minutes than Campbell. He may be able to run reasonably quickly but he thinks well within the speed limit. Did more in what way? Score? No Make more chances? Not really. To be fair your assessments of forwards have always been way off. Are you still campaigning for Saido? Clown. H No point at all arguing! Time will show who is correct. Berahino is history and the facts of the history provide the evidence that he was a foolish young man but it also shows clearly that he was better than Campbell although Campbell does have some time on his side.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 8:29:59 GMT
O'Neill's made it clear that he favours Fletcher and Brown, with Campbell in and out, as a strikeforce. That's not exactly a great motivation for the two players, Vokes and Gregory, that he's picked so far, while the others get into shape and form. Moreover he favours midfielders that go deep, to help protecting a defence that's more than a little weak, and to help Mikel, who's somehow still not out of first gear; fine that's his choice, but the consequence of that choice is that there is little creativity where it matters. Neither Powell nor Clucas are quick, so there's this creative gap between our forwards and them. The plan, finally, is that our so-called wingbacks should race up and down the line and make beautiful crosses. Both Fox and Smith are not wingbacks, they have little pace, their crossing ability is limited, and they sit so deep, because they are rather traditional fullbacks, that they never really get into the role, before we've already lost the ball.
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Sept 24, 2020 8:30:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 8:30:47 GMT
O'Neill's made it clear that he favours Fletcher and Brown, with Campbell in and out, as a strikeforce. That's not exactly a great motivation for the two players, Vokes and Gregory, that he's picked so far, while the others get into shape and form. Moreover he favours midfielders that go deep, to help protecting a defence that's more than a little weak, and to help Mikel, who's somehow still not out of first gear; fine that's his choice, but the consequence of that choice is that there is little creativity where it matters. Neither Powell nor Clucas are quick, so there's this creative gap between our forwards and them. The plan, finally, is that our so-called wingbacks should race up and down the line and make beautiful crosses. Both Fox and Smith are not wingbacks, they have little pace, their crossing ability is limited, and they sit so deep, because they are rather traditional fullbacks, that they never really get into the role, before we've already lost the ball. When did he make it clear that he favours Fletcher and Brown?
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Post by thehoof on Sept 24, 2020 8:37:38 GMT
Did more in what way? Score? No Make more chances? Not really. To be fair your assessments of forwards have always been way off. Are you still campaigning for Saido? Clown. H No point at all arguing! Time will show who is correct. Berahino is history and the facts of the history provide the evidence that he was a foolish young man but it also shows clearly that he was better than Campbell although Campbell does have some time on his side. You do talk some rubbish. Berahino was a one season wonder, but once you get something in your head, there is no changing your mind. Well, my opinion is no more valid than yours.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 24, 2020 11:15:40 GMT
No point at all arguing! Time will show who is correct. Berahino is history and the facts of the history provide the evidence that he was a foolish young man but it also shows clearly that he was better than Campbell although Campbell does have some time on his side. You do talk some rubbish. Berahino was a one season wonder, but once you get something in your head, there is no changing your mind. Well, my opinion is no more valid than yours. He has a history of backing the wrong man
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 24, 2020 16:39:27 GMT
You do talk some rubbish. Berahino was a one season wonder, but once you get something in your head, there is no changing your mind. Well, my opinion is no more valid than yours. He has a history of backing the wrong man The facts do not lie. At the moment Campbell has not achieved as highly as Berahino. Berahino made a mess of his career but you cannot take away his football record and that is better than Tyrese's You believe that he is going to go onto greater things and I will be pleased if he does but I have not been very impressed so far this season or at the end of last season for that matter apart from one or two good finishes. As I said earlier time will tell. Come back in two years.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2020 18:03:05 GMT
The creativity has to come from the wing backs mainly and thats the problem, we don't really have any.
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Sept 24, 2020 18:06:46 GMT
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Post by march4 on Sept 24, 2020 18:06:46 GMT
The opposition last night were very weak.
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2020 21:42:17 GMT
I have to admit that I have just about reached the end on my tether. I felt the same after last season’s restart and it turned out fine. However, I am sick and tired of these slow starts with the manager not knowing his best line up. Six bloody years of poor starts with four different managers must say something is not right with the preparation that has nothing to do with the manager. I know it was a short summer break, but unless I’m missing something basic about the concept of time it was exactly the same for all teams.
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Sept 24, 2020 22:26:25 GMT
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 24, 2020 22:26:25 GMT
The creativity has to come from the wing backs mainly and thats the problem, we don't really have any. So why play a formation that needs them either the manager is making a huge mistake by bad planning or yet again the recruitment has failed to deliver what’s required . How ironic as the window shuts we are looking to make two recruitment appointments
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Sept 25, 2020 8:05:57 GMT
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Post by franklin on Sept 25, 2020 8:05:57 GMT
We're not toothless but we definitely need some work at the dentist to extract a couple of rotten ones. One big fat molar needs to go thats for sure.
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Sept 25, 2020 12:42:17 GMT
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Post by st3mark on Sept 25, 2020 12:42:17 GMT
The opposition last night were very weak. Extremely weak. Very young side they put out. We dominated possession but only beating a side that weak and inexperienced 1-0 is a slight concern. The job was done on the night but we’ll have to have a lot more about us against PNE at the weekend
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