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Post by choppercherry on Aug 29, 2020 9:48:47 GMT
Apologies if there is another thread. Any news when they are going back on sale ready for the streaming?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2020 9:52:25 GMT
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Post by choppercherry on Aug 29, 2020 12:44:53 GMT
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Post by spiderpuss on Aug 29, 2020 12:50:16 GMT
I wonder what they will say. It wouldn't surprise me that there are no more sales.
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Post by Scouse on Aug 29, 2020 13:11:10 GMT
I wonder what they will say. It wouldn't surprise me that there are no more sales. Agreed , due to likely capacity issues , though I would add the rider of an opportunity for supporters who held a ST last year , but didn’t renew during the early bird sale period to:- a) pay a low nominal deposit to secure their seat for when tickets were put back on sale ..the deposit paid to be deducted from the price of a true ST at a later date as and when COVID restrictions allowed ..be it for 20/21 or more likely 21/22 , when available if the ST wasn’t renewed in a published timeframe the deposit and access to the seat would be forfeited b ) pay a fee ( TBA ) in addition to the above that would allow them to access streaming arrangements at reduced rates Whilst people looking to renew and attend games in the short to medium term might be disappointed , this would ensure they weren’t totally cut adrift and those supporters who did renew earlier wouldn’t feel aggrieved that their commitment to the club financially during a period of extreme uncertainty hasn’t been diminished by the club Edit : The above relates to those who are ST , honestly I don’t ignore we’ve many regular match going supporters who aren’t season ticket holders ..and they ( and hopefully the club ) will have concerns around the issues of their own circumstances too |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2020 20:37:33 GMT
This is what Swansea are doing.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 29, 2020 20:41:54 GMT
This is what Swansea are doing..... Leaves a lot unanswered if we did that. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 29, 2020 20:48:34 GMT
Having to pay for some away games is a bit of a kick in the teeth.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 29, 2020 21:03:55 GMT
You do wonder how many people are getting out of the habit...and won't be overly fussed about getting back into the routine after 6 months, 12 months, 18 months?
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Post by RICH68 on Aug 29, 2020 22:01:14 GMT
You do wonder how many people are getting out of the habit...and won't be overly fussed about getting back into the routine after 6 months, 12 months, 18 months? That’s a very interesting point. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 29, 2020 23:04:49 GMT
You do wonder how many people are getting out of the habit...and won't be overly fussed about getting back into the routine after 6 months, 12 months, 18 months? Very good point. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 29, 2020 23:27:06 GMT
I'll cum buckets when they let us back in again.
I'm so sad that my entire life revolves around Stoke.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 11:05:53 GMT
This is what Swansea are doing..... That is absolutely shocking. There'd be uproar here if Stoke try that. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2020 11:13:51 GMT
This is what Swansea are doing..... That is absolutely shocking. There'd be uproar here if Stoke try that. There'll be a Boris styled U Turn on that |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 11:21:56 GMT
That is absolutely shocking. There'd be uproar here if Stoke try that. There'll be a Boris styled U Turn on that They're essentially blackmailing their hardcore supporters into not taking a refund of any kind, so that they will be the first ones to be considered for admittance if/when crowds are allowed back in. So a family of four that has bought 4 season tickets in a single household, get to watch the same stream, that the next door neighbour has paid a tenner for THEIR family to watch? It's an absolute scandal. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2020 11:26:22 GMT
There'll be a Boris styled U Turn on that They're essentially blackmailing their hardcore supporters into not taking a refund of any kind, so that they will be the first ones to be considered for admittance if/when crowds are allowed back in. So a family of four that has bought 4 season tickets in a single household, get to watch the same stream, that the next door neighbour has paid a tenner for THEIR family to watch? It's an absolute scandal. Yeah, it's an absolute disgrace, like I say there's no way there going to get away with that, there'll be mass protests. |
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Post by theoptimist on Aug 30, 2020 11:30:34 GMT
They're essentially blackmailing their hardcore supporters into not taking a refund of any kind, so that they will be the first ones to be considered for admittance if/when crowds are allowed back in. So a family of four that has bought 4 season tickets in a single household, get to watch the same stream, that the next door neighbour has paid a tenner for THEIR family to watch? It's an absolute scandal. Yeah, it's an absolute disgrace, like I say there's no way there going to get away with that, there'll be mass protests.
No there won't. We will get what we're given and the supporters council will thank uncle Tony for it.
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Post by bolders on Aug 30, 2020 12:28:30 GMT
Having to pay for some away games is a bit of a kick in the teeth. How is it? You dont get away games with your season ticket so you would have to pay for the away ticket anyway so its just the same |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 12:36:50 GMT
Having to pay for some away games is a bit of a kick in the teeth. How is it? You dont get away games with your season ticket so you would have to pay for the away ticket anyway so its just the same It isn't. Look at the games at the end of last season, season ticket holders were able to watch both home and away games without extra charge. Season ticket's work out at somewhere around £20 a match depending on where you sit in the ground. And the matches are being streamed for £10 to people who aren't season ticket holders. The value of a match stream has been set at £10 a game but you think season ticket holders should pay £20 per home match? Either the season ticket holder should be refunded an amount or they should get access to streams both home and away. |
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Post by bolders on Aug 30, 2020 12:49:22 GMT
How is it? You dont get away games with your season ticket so you would have to pay for the away ticket anyway so its just the same It isn't. Look at the games at the end of last season, season ticket holders were able to watch both home and away games without extra charge. Season ticket's work out at somewhere around £20 a match depending on where you sit in the ground. And the matches are being streamed for £10 to people who aren't season ticket holders. The value of a match stream has been set at £10 a game but you think season ticket holders should pay £20 per home match? Either the season ticket holder should be refunded an amount or they should get access to streams both home and away. I was just on about the away matches |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 12:56:39 GMT
It isn't. Look at the games at the end of last season, season ticket holders were able to watch both home and away games without extra charge. Season ticket's work out at somewhere around £20 a match depending on where you sit in the ground. And the matches are being streamed for £10 to people who aren't season ticket holders. The value of a match stream has been set at £10 a game but you think season ticket holders should pay £20 per home match? Either the season ticket holder should be refunded an amount or they should get access to streams both home and away. I was just on about the away matches You've lost me ... |
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Post by ravey123 on Aug 30, 2020 13:05:03 GMT
You do wonder how many people are getting out of the habit...and won't be overly fussed about getting back into the routine after 6 months, 12 months, 18 months? This is where I am. I've had a season ticket for almost 40 years and missed about 5 or 6 home games in all that time. Since lockdown and the lack of attending games I seem to have lost the love/habit for SCFC. I'm not one of those that is football mad - have Sky Sports and watch about 2 or 3 games involving other teams. Going to the home games was more a social thing and habit than anything else - its the only place I still saw some of my mates. Since lockdown life has just taken over and new things happen to fill the football void. Streaming is not an option for me because our internet speed is so bad - I was going to try to stream the game yesterday but would have had to pop into town somewhere to use wifi at Maccy D's or similar. After almost 40 years I think I'm 50:50 not going to games again when we can - the habit has just been broken. |
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Post by bolders on Aug 30, 2020 13:07:57 GMT
I was just on about the away matches You've lost me ... he was on about having to pay for away matches as well, i just said that you would have to buy an away ticket anyway to see it. yeah we had all the games this time but you gotta remember the clubs have to have some revenue coming in |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 30, 2020 13:09:03 GMT
How is it? You dont get away games with your season ticket so you would have to pay for the away ticket anyway so its just the same It isn't. Look at the games at the end of last season, season ticket holders were able to watch both home and away games without extra charge. Season ticket's work out at somewhere around £20 a match depending on where you sit in the ground. And the matches are being streamed for £10 to people who aren't season ticket holders. The value of a match stream has been set at £10 a game but you think season ticket holders should pay £20 per home match? Either the season ticket holder should be refunded an amount or they should get access to streams both home and away. If you read the Swansea thing it seems that the FL have said only up to 7 midweek away games can be streamed for free to season ticket holders so nothing to do with the clubs. I expect a very similar statement from Stoke as regards streaming but I don't think Stoke will threaten to give those who've renewed their season tickets first option into the ground. It will be interesting to see what Stoke do. To be honest I don't see a lot wrong with Swansea's solution because you've got to disappoint some fans. |
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Post by bringitondown on Aug 30, 2020 13:34:23 GMT
he was on about having to pay for away matches as well, i just said that you would have to buy an away ticket anyway to see it. yeah we had all the games this time but you gotta remember the clubs have to have some revenue coming in Was Paul’s point not that the price per game of the season ticket is about £20 which is double the £10 stream and therefore you should be getting either away games for free or some kind of refund? |
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Post by bolders on Aug 30, 2020 13:52:16 GMT
he was on about having to pay for away matches as well, i just said that you would have to buy an away ticket anyway to see it. yeah we had all the games this time but you gotta remember the clubs have to have some revenue coming in Was Paul’s point not that the price per game of the season ticket is about £20 which is double the £10 stream and therefore you should be getting either away games for free or some kind of refund? Yes but my post was nothing to do about the price per game it was about someone wanting free away streams if you had a season ticket. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 14:10:00 GMT
he was on about having to pay for away matches as well, i just said that you would have to buy an away ticket anyway to see it. yeah we had all the games this time but you gotta remember the clubs have to have some revenue coming in Was Paul’s point not that the price per game of the season ticket is about £20 which is double the £10 stream and therefore you should be getting either away games for free or some kind of refund? Indeed it was, as was the original post that Bolders quoted. I think I'll give up. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 14:16:53 GMT
It isn't. Look at the games at the end of last season, season ticket holders were able to watch both home and away games without extra charge. Season ticket's work out at somewhere around £20 a match depending on where you sit in the ground. And the matches are being streamed for £10 to people who aren't season ticket holders. The value of a match stream has been set at £10 a game but you think season ticket holders should pay £20 per home match? Either the season ticket holder should be refunded an amount or they should get access to streams both home and away. If you read the Swansea thing it seems that the FL have said only up to 7 midweek away games can be streamed for free to season ticket holders so nothing to do with the clubs. I expect a very similar statement from Stoke as regards streaming but I don't think Stoke will threaten to give those who've renewed their season tickets first option into the ground. It will be interesting to see what Stoke do. To be honest I don't see a lot wrong with Swansea's solution because you've got to disappoint some fans. 1. You can't have people who haven't bought season tickets being able to stream the games for less (indeed getting on for half the amount) than those people who have bought season tickets - it's completely ridiculous. And that's just where a household has one season ticket. In households where there are several season tickets, it becomes even more ridiculous. 2. I don't think Stoke will threaten people in that manner either, it is absolutely scandalous, I can't believe that a member of their fans forum is on there trying to defend it. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 30, 2020 14:24:26 GMT
If you read the Swansea thing it seems that the FL have said only up to 7 midweek away games can be streamed for free to season ticket holders so nothing to do with the clubs. I expect a very similar statement from Stoke as regards streaming but I don't think Stoke will threaten to give those who've renewed their season tickets first option into the ground. It will be interesting to see what Stoke do. To be honest I don't see a lot wrong with Swansea's solution because you've got to disappoint some fans. 1. You can't have people who haven't bought season tickets being able to stream the games for less (indeed getting on for half the amount) than those people who have bought season tickets - it's completely ridiculous. And that's just where a household has one season ticket. In households where there are several season tickets, it becomes even more ridiculous. 2. I don't think Stoke will threaten people in that manner either, it is absolutely scandalous, I can't believe that a member of their fans forum is on there trying to defend it. Presumably as last season though we will be offered a partial refund. Was it possible last year to have a full refund for all but one of the season tickets (I understand why you wouldn't be able to refund an adult ticket but stream through a child's but could it for example be done the other way?) It does seem though that the streaming of away games for free is forbidden by the FL or Sky so not the clubs' fault. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 30, 2020 14:32:27 GMT
1. You can't have people who haven't bought season tickets being able to stream the games for less (indeed getting on for half the amount) than those people who have bought season tickets - it's completely ridiculous. And that's just where a household has one season ticket. In households where there are several season tickets, it becomes even more ridiculous. 2. I don't think Stoke will threaten people in that manner either, it is absolutely scandalous, I can't believe that a member of their fans forum is on there trying to defend it. Presumably as last season though we will be offered a partial refund. Was it possible last year to have a full refund for all but one of the season tickets (I understand why you wouldn't be able to refund an adult ticket but stream through a child's but could it for example be done the other way?) It does seem though that the streaming of away games for free is forbidden by the FL or Sky so not the clubs' fault. I'm not saying that it is. What is the clubs' fault, is how Swansea have gone about it. No refund at all, so you pay double (or eight times as much if there's four of you in the same household) what a non season ticket holder has to pay for a stream, or you go to the back of the queue when/if the grounds reopen. It's beyond scandalous. I think I'd have to seriously consider how I felt about my club if Stoke did the same, not that I think they remotely will. And yes, it was possible for us to get a refund last season for all but one of the season tickets. |
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