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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 4, 2020 22:01:40 GMT
Before the odds come out (presumably that'll be tonight some time?), who do you fancy next season? Notice on twitter we're getting the odd mention!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 4, 2020 22:06:24 GMT
Obviously Stoke along with Norwich, Brentford, Swansea and Bournemouth
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 22:08:21 GMT
It's too early to say at the moment. It depends on a lot of the transfer business done and how teams start the season. This one will be a weird one given the relatively quick turnaround.
This could be one of those weird seasons where someone like Barnsley start off like a train and end up in the play offs.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 4, 2020 22:09:57 GMT
It's been the kiss of death mentioning our name and the word "promotion" before so, no, not us.
You'd have to think Watford / Brentford / Norwich as stand outs and then anything goes from the pack?
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 4, 2020 22:11:07 GMT
For me it will be Bournemouth. Watford and Brentford if they manage to keep there players. After those three I think it’s going to be very open and hopefully we will be up there with a few more additions
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 4, 2020 22:22:24 GMT
I think Brentford could suffer a hangover, along with the mental effect from tonight, teams records at their first season in a new ground is not good. You have to hope we will be up there, and should be with normal progression. Bournemouth may struggle, Watford god only knows. Bit of a lottery, it could literally be any team 6 from the 24 on offer.
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Post by 36dd on Aug 4, 2020 22:28:02 GMT
All depending if anyone poaches Brentford’s players? I can see them challenging for top two again.
I think the teams relegated may struggle?
All being well MON can keep the momentum going, so my top six would be Stoke, Swansea, Brentford, Forest, Bournemouth (pending who the manager is) & Cardiff (top 6 in any order) 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by datguy on Aug 4, 2020 22:29:25 GMT
The longer we stay under the radar, the better.
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Post by Gods on Aug 4, 2020 22:38:16 GMT
As MON has repeated until he is blue in the face we need a start like never before, built some momentum, out on the 'B' of the 'Bang' of the starters gun or it's another lost campaign.
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Post by Gods on Aug 4, 2020 22:43:10 GMT
As MON has repeated until he is blue in the face we need a start like never before, built some momentum, out on the 'B' of the 'Bang' of the starters gun or it's another lost campaign before the clocks go back!
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Post by upthefud on Aug 4, 2020 22:44:19 GMT
Given our form from November onwards, we’ve got to be right up there
I don’t fancy any of the relegated sides to do well.
Stoke Boro Swansea Forest Preston Brentford
In any order
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 4, 2020 22:47:25 GMT
Not Derby
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 4, 2020 22:50:33 GMT
Rooney FC? 🙄 guaranteed to be on Sky the most now Leeds are gone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 22:53:21 GMT
Brentford won't keep Benrahma and they probably won't keep Watkins either. Doesn't mean they won't stay up, and they'll compete again at some point with their finances from the sales but in the short term they might have a transitional year.
It's all dependant on finances to be perfectly honest, I expect atleast one of Watford and Bournemouth to be in disarray and probably both. Between that, points deductions and financial crisis this seems as good a year as any to have a crack.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 4, 2020 22:56:35 GMT
Shit loads of ifs and buts.
Watford are fucking mental as we know (anything could happen there).
Bournemouth have the squad but a lot will depend on who they appoint. I wouldn't be surprised to see them mirror our first couple of seasons back down here, as their decline seems have been coming for a while.
Norwich will probably lose both of their full backs who were a major part of why they went up in the first place. Replace them well and I'd back them.
Will Brentford keep enough of the squad together?
Cardiff look a decent bet for the playoffs, and I wouldn't bet against Warnock having Boro up there either (the twat). Millwall and Rowett too (the twat)
I don't see Barnsley, Sheffield Wednesday, Coventry, Wycombe, Rotherham, Luton, Birmingham pushing top six but the rest of the league are fair game.
As for us, we have a bit of stability going into a new season for a change. From board level, to fans, to players, I'm pretty sure we're all unanimous on us having the right manager and when was the last time we said that?
He turned a group of players that looked mentally resigned to relegation into (statistically) a top 7 side. I'm going into the season expecting a comfortable mid table finish, but I'd be lying if I said that I aren't looking at the other 23 teams and thinking, why the fuck not? The league looks a lot weaker to me, with a lot of question marks hanging over quite a few clubs.
Anyway, bollocks on the line. My (very optimistic) top six:
1. Norwich 2. Stoke 😎 3. Cardiff 4. Boro 5. Brentford 6. Millwall
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Post by Jimm on Aug 4, 2020 23:01:44 GMT
Can see Swansea winning the league next season. We'll be in the play off final against Norwich and it'll end 2-2 after normal time, not sure what happens after that.
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Post by CampbxllEra on Aug 4, 2020 23:17:01 GMT
Rooney FC? 🙄 guaranteed to be on Sky the most now Leeds are gone Pretty impossible to watch a Derby game on sky without them mentioning him at least 10 times (even if he’s not playing!)
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 4, 2020 23:59:29 GMT
Can see Swansea winning the league next season. We'll be in the play off final against Norwich and it'll end 2-2 after normal time, not sure what happens after that. Can you be a little bit more specific?
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 5, 2020 0:01:34 GMT
As MON has repeated until he is blue in the face we need a start like never before, built some momentum, out on the 'B' of the 'Bang' of the starters gun or it's another lost campaign before the clocks go back! I’m not sure a rapid start is necessarily vital. Certainly, we could do without being on 14 points after 20 games like we were last season but a steady start of, say, 15 points after the first 10 would be ok.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 5, 2020 4:27:33 GMT
Before the odds come out (presumably that'll be tonight some time?), who do you fancy next season? Notice on twitter we're getting the odd mention! That's made me realise how wank are badge is
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 4:39:52 GMT
Before the odds come out (presumably that'll be tonight some time?), who do you fancy next season? Notice on twitter we're getting the odd mention! That's made me realise how wank are badge is Our badge. I actually think it's ok compared to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 5:11:36 GMT
Middlesbrough will be close if they keep Warnock, Bournemouth too now Eddie has walked
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 5:29:30 GMT
As everyone (supporters, board, players, managers, pundits) for the last two years has made the mistake of taking Stoke's promotion for granted, I would beg that we leave ourselves out of the equation this time to allow ourselves to build up something sustainable slowly but surely. After two lower midtable finishes, we should, with a lot of the same players that consistently have gotten us into trouble, aim for no more than upper midtable.
If it turns out differently, and we do better than we have lately, by all means, go with the flow, but if it doesn't, no need to panic.
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 5, 2020 5:47:26 GMT
Had they not gone up through the play offs I'd have been as confident of Fulham taking the title next season as I was with Leeds this year.
Now I've got no idea.
Relegated sides haven't got a good record in recent years. You can see that Bournemouth and Watford are going to lose some key men, which probably puts Norwich in the best position of those 3 (despite being awful this year) as the most likely to mount a challenge. There's question marks over all the teams though. Brentford may suffer a hangover and have some of their star players poached, Cardiff- is Neil Harris really a good enough manager to maintain the bounce he oversaw last season? Swansea- how reliant were they on loan players? Forest were so hit and miss that you couldn't back them with any confidence...
I think you could build a case for any one of about 14 clubs, and we're somehow one of them!
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 5, 2020 5:47:58 GMT
Cardiff, Brentford if not too many are sold, Norwich, Watford, Swansea, Derby, Stoke and Middlesbrough. My guess is that 6 out of these teams will finish top 6. I don't have much faith in Bmouth as they will lose all their best players like Ake, Wilson, King, Frazer etc. They will have to buy half a new starting 11 at least. It often takes time for such a team to gel as we all know! If Brentford end up selling Benrahma, Watkins, Henry etc. the same could happen to them.
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Post by wrighter on Aug 5, 2020 5:48:30 GMT
Loads think Bournemouth will do well, i dont, Fraser gone,& Ake. Wilson , King & Ramsdale going and possibly Brooks which leaves them very depleted
If Jason Tindall is given the managers job they will struggle, i can honestly see them going straight thro to Div 1
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 5, 2020 8:27:29 GMT
Shit loads of ifs and buts. Watford are fucking mental as we know (anything could happen there). Bournemouth have the squad but a lot will depend on who they appoint. I wouldn't be surprised to see them mirror our first couple of seasons back down here, as their decline seems have been coming for a while. Norwich will probably lose both of their full backs who were a major part of why they went up in the first place. Replace them well and I'd back them. Will Brentford keep enough of the squad together? Cardiff look a decent bet for the playoffs, and I wouldn't bet against Warnock having Boro up there either (the twat). Millwall and Rowett too (the twat) I don't see Barnsley, Sheffield Wednesday, Coventry, Wycombe, Rotherham, Luton, Birmingham pushing top six but the rest of the league are fair game. As for us, we have a bit of stability going into a new season for a change. From board level, to fans, to players, I'm pretty sure we're all unanimous on us having the right manager and when was the last time we said that? He turned a group of players that looked mentally resigned to relegation into (statistically) a top 7 side. I'm going into the season expecting a comfortable mid table finish, but I'd be lying if I said that I aren't looking at the other 23 teams and thinking, why the fuck not? The league looks a lot weaker to me, with a lot of question marks hanging over quite a few clubs. Anyway, bollocks on the line. My (very optimistic) top six: 1. Norwich 2. Stoke 😎 3. Cardiff 4. Boro 5. Brentford 6. Millwall I think that's a good analysis, pickles! But obviously things will look different in September and potentially again in October. It'll probably turn out to be complete nonsense - but that's this division As Trousers says, Swansea look good - but take out Gallagher and Brewster (and probably Ayew), and what will they be then? There really aren't many sure things. If Bournemouth give it to the assistant, where will that leave them even with the Ake money in. I tthink they've got the award for the club most likely to do a Stoke/Sundrland out of the 3. We don't even know who Watford's manager will be yet. I wouldn't be quite as positive about Middlesbrough, but Warnock will have them top half, you'd think. And anything can happen if you get a roll going. Brentford will probably be up there again, but they'll lose key players and, while you'd think they'd replace them well, there may be some kind of hangover. I'd cautiously ink in Cardiff and Norwich for top 6 - and probably Watford but the manager could be key. And I do have a strange feeling Derby will be up there. But don't know what that's based on! Take out Wednesday, Wycombe, Rotherham, Luton, Cov (and maybe Birmingham and Barnsley) and everyone else will think they're in the fight
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 5, 2020 8:29:53 GMT
Had they not gone up through the play offs I'd have been as confident of Fulham taking the title next season as I was with Leeds this year. Now I've got no idea. Relegated sides haven't got a good record in recent years. You can see that Bournemouth and Watford are going to lose some key men, which probably puts Norwich in the best position of those 3 (despite being awful this year) as the most likely to mount a challenge. There's question marks over all the teams though. Brentford may suffer a hangover and have some of their star players poached, Cardiff- is Neil Harris really a good enough manager to maintain the bounce he oversaw last season? Swansea- how reliant were they on loan players? Forest were so hit and miss that you couldn't back them with any confidence... I think you could build a case for any one of about 14 clubs, and we're somehow one of them! The big question for norwich is "was pukki a flash in the pan, one season wonder"? If he was, they'll be nowhere near.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 5, 2020 8:51:01 GMT
If the board back o'neill and let him sign the LB, DM, CB, GK he needs, he'll have us right up there
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Post by block29cb on Aug 5, 2020 8:51:06 GMT
Unpopular opinion but have a feeling Luton could be up there aswell.
I'd imagine Boro under Warnock to be flying too.
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