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Post by gingerninja on Jul 17, 2020 18:43:06 GMT
Alluded to this at press conference today. Defies belief why they wouldn't grasp that post lockdown there may be a heightened chance of them being needed with increased workload & injuries. Edwards obviously one, maybe Oakley Booth & Tymon as well?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 18:44:17 GMT
Another one wading into the kids? We have enough of that on here...   |
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 17, 2020 18:46:34 GMT
I am not wading into the kids, but if they've not come back in shape then they deserve a bollocking!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 18:48:44 GMT
I am not wading into the kids, but if they've not come back in shape then they deserve a bollocking!! I meant O'Neill and it was a joke. Nevermind. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 17, 2020 19:20:44 GMT
Easy targets he said Sorensen had done well , he didn’t exactly cover himself in glory st Leeds and Wigan so I’d wait until we are safe before throwing stones , plus who was managing them
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 17, 2020 20:32:09 GMT
Alluded to this at press conference today. Defies belief why they wouldn't grasp that post lockdown there may be a heightened chance of them being needed with increased workload & injuries. Edwards obviously one, maybe Oakley Booth & Tymon as well? What did he say and where can it be found? |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 17, 2020 20:36:56 GMT
Alluded to this at press conference today. Defies belief why they wouldn't grasp that post lockdown there may be a heightened chance of them being needed with increased workload & injuries. Edwards obviously one, maybe Oakley Booth & Tymon as well? What did he say and where can it be found? Towards the end of the article. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 17, 2020 20:37:30 GMT
Alluded to this at press conference today. Defies belief why they wouldn't grasp that post lockdown there may be a heightened chance of them being needed with increased workload & injuries. Edwards obviously one, maybe Oakley Booth & Tymon as well? What did he say and where can it be found? Here you go Dave. Question asked at around 7 mins 10 seconds in. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 18, 2020 14:33:34 GMT
Another mention of them today (4mins 30s). Asked whether the youngsters may get a chance on Wednesday. Says "no, they need to earn the chance". Goes on to say we will be bringing in new players in the window and the youngsters need to do more.
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Post by ParaPsych on Jul 18, 2020 14:40:46 GMT
If I was to hazard a guess I'd say he's not really talking about Campbell, Collins and Sorenson, given that one has been getting regular starts and the other two have been regularly called on from the bench.
But sounds like some of the others have annoyed him!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 18, 2020 14:44:22 GMT
Edwards and Tymon seem to have disappeared, will they be sold/given away/loaned out?  |
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Post by datguy on Jul 18, 2020 14:46:12 GMT
Edwards and Tymon seem to have disappeared, will they be sold/given away/loaned out? Edwards gets a loan in League 1. Maybe even a newly promoted team takes a punt on him. It's up to him to save his career from here... |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 18, 2020 14:48:59 GMT
He’s laying down high standards. If they wish to become successful professional footballers they are going to have to step up and improve its that simple.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 18, 2020 14:58:05 GMT
Edwards and Tymon seem to have disappeared, will they be sold/given away/loaned out? Edwards gets a loan in League 1. Maybe even a newly promoted team takes a punt on him. It's up to him to save his career from here... Are the top 4 no longer "keeping tabs" on him then? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2020 15:15:37 GMT
Campbell was atrocious today. He had one job and that was to run his bollocks off and pressure their defence and goalie and he just didn’t look arsed in the slightest. Really disappointing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 15:24:47 GMT
I criticised his interview after Boro. I still maintain that criticism. However, that was a great interview.
Music to my ears. Aren't celebrating, driven to improve next season, young players have a chance but have to show more.
He even found time for a filthy look in Tony Scholes' way as he slithered past the camera.
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Post by smiler_andy on Jul 18, 2020 15:26:37 GMT
According to O'Neil we have 7 players out on loan and with what we have this gives us around 31 players. Most of these have at least 12 months on their contracts on good money and will be hard to shift. If the younger players want to get a game they will have to fight for it otherwise they will be shown the door. If we had only 15 players then that would be different.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 15:28:49 GMT
Be interesting to see his team selection at forest.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 18, 2020 15:29:36 GMT
Campbell was atrocious today. He had one job and that was to run his bollocks off and pressure their defence and goalie and he just didn’t look arsed in the slightest. Really disappointing. I agree. He scored 2 goals, one from a clever back-heel, and another froma corner with a miss-hit shot that trundled into the corner, but generally his work rate, ball control, tackling, etc. have been atrocious since the lock down. I have found him very annoying to watch generally. Anyway, today is a day to celebrate, I really was worried after yesterday's result that everything was going to conspire to send us down. We could have had 3 penalties against us today if there was video replay. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 15:31:47 GMT
I think it's probably not so much about the academy players, really, despite his seemingly taking a stab at them.
I think O'Neill's started talking to the board through the media/interviews.
The board probably think we can ideally augment a decent squad with a bunch of academy lads. They might have told him that there will be no heavy investment in the next transfer window.
O'Neill knows he barely has 11 men good enough to keep us up, although he's just done that. He does not have a sufficiently strong enough squad to mount a major challenge next season, so he wants to be able to buy players for as much as his predecessors did.
If enough people buy that line of thinking, the board could have a re-thimk, he hopes. That in itself is of course a stab in the back of any young hopeful.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2020 15:45:54 GMT
Campbell was atrocious today. He had one job and that was to run his bollocks off and pressure their defence and goalie and he just didn’t look arsed in the slightest. Really disappointing. I agree. He scored 2 goals, one from a clever back-heel, and another froma corner with a miss-hit shot that trundled into the corner, but generally his work rate, ball control, tackling, etc. have been atrocious since the lock down. I have found him very annoying to watch generally. Anyway, today is a day to celebrate, I really was worried after yesterday's result that everything was going to conspire to send us down. We could have had 3 penalties against us today if there was video replay. You’re being very harsh re the corner goal. It was exactly what was needed. His ball control and work rate have been fine overall too. Tackling? Why would you judge Campbell on tackling? |
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 18, 2020 15:51:01 GMT
I think it's probably not so much about the academy players, really, despite his seemingly taking a stab at them. I think O'Neill's started talking to the board through the media/interviews. The board probably think we can ideally augment a decent squad with a bunch of academy lads. They might have told him that there will be no heavy investment in the next transfer window. O'Neill knows he barely has 11 men good enough to keep us up, although he's just done that. He does not have a sufficiently strong enough squad to mount a major challenge next season, so he wants to be able to buy players for as much as his predecessors did. If enough people buy that line of thinking, the board could have a re-thimk, he hopes. That in itself is of course a stab in the back of any young hopeful. I thought that, defiantly felt of it have high standards academy lads you need to step up’ and a battle cry to the board. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 18, 2020 15:53:27 GMT
I criticised his interview after Boro. I still maintain that criticism. However, that was a great interview. Music to my ears. Aren't celebrating, driven to improve next season, young players have a chance but have to show more. He even found time for a filthy look in Tony Scholes' way as he slithered past the camera. I spotted that look as well but took it as a look of admiration rather than anything else. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 18, 2020 16:14:37 GMT
I think it's probably not so much about the academy players, really, despite his seemingly taking a stab at them. I think O'Neill's started talking to the board through the media/interviews. The board probably think we can ideally augment a decent squad with a bunch of academy lads. They might have told him that there will be no heavy investment in the next transfer window. O'Neill knows he barely has 11 men good enough to keep us up, although he's just done that. He does not have a sufficiently strong enough squad to mount a major challenge next season, so he wants to be able to buy players for as much as his predecessors did. If enough people buy that line of thinking, the board could have a re-thimk, he hopes. That in itself is of course a stab in the back of any young hopeful. Is there much movement for the board though, if we can't get rid he'll have very little to spend due to FFP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 16:18:28 GMT
Campbell looks as fit as my postman at the minute and he eats Ginsters and Hob Nobs for breakfast.
Edwards seems totally out of the picture and as we know, MON takes no nonsense from players
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Post by thehoof on Jul 18, 2020 16:34:50 GMT
I agree. He scored 2 goals, one from a clever back-heel, and another froma corner with a miss-hit shot that trundled into the corner, but generally his work rate, ball control, tackling, etc. have been atrocious since the lock down. I have found him very annoying to watch generally. Anyway, today is a day to celebrate, I really was worried after yesterday's result that everything was going to conspire to send us down. We could have had 3 penalties against us today if there was video replay. You’re being very harsh re the corner goal. It was exactly what was needed. His ball control and work rate have been fine overall too. Tackling? Why would you judge Campbell on tackling? Campbell’s form may have dipped in the last few games, but he’s got 9 goals in effectively half a season- only Stoke would consider buggering him off. We should actually realise that the experienced players who we are currently lauding, are the buggers who got us into this situation in the first place. Out of the experienced players the only ones I’d keep are: Clucas ( he has won me over) McLean (squad player) Batth (squad player only) Afobe- give him a chance in a two pronged attack Allen Powell ( hopefully keep him fit) Vokes ( squad player only). Smith- although I’d like to see us have two fullbacks signed up! Ince, Gregory, BMI, Butland,Chester,Wimmer, Etebo, N’Diaye can all seek employment elsewhere if we can find anyone to take them off our hands. It will be interesting to see what MO’n would like and to see what he’s able to get- he’s already said he needs to freshen it up, but that 31 players is too big a squad. |
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Post by bolders on Jul 18, 2020 16:39:32 GMT
I criticised his interview after Boro. I still maintain that criticism. However, that was a great interview. Music to my ears. Aren't celebrating, driven to improve next season, young players have a chance but have to show more. He even found time for a filthy look in Tony Scholes' way as he slithered past the camera. I spotted that look as well but took it as a look of admiration rather than anything else. Where did you see this? it wasnt in the interview i just watched on the Stoke site |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 16:53:06 GMT
You’re being very harsh re the corner goal. It was exactly what was needed. His ball control and work rate have been fine overall too. Tackling? Why would you judge Campbell on tackling? Campbell’s form may have dipped in the last few games, but he’s got 9 goals in effectively half a season- only Stoke would consider buggering him off.We should actually realise that the experienced players who we are currently lauding, are the buggers who got us into this situation in the first place. Out of the experienced players the only ones I’d keep are: Clucas ( he has won me over) McLean (squad player) Batth (squad player only) Afobe- give him a chance in a two pronged attack Allen Powell ( hopefully keep him fit) Vokes ( squad player only). Smith- although I’d like to see us have two fullbacks signed up! Ince, Gregory, BMI, Butland,Chester,Wimmer, Etebo, N’Diaye can all seek employment elsewhere if we can find anyone to take them off our hands. It will be interesting to see what MO’n would like and to see what he’s able to get- he’s already said he needs to freshen it up, but that 31 players is too big a squad. Have they or has anyone ? |
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Post by thehoof on Jul 18, 2020 16:57:54 GMT
Campbell’s form may have dipped in the last few games, but he’s got 9 goals in effectively half a season- only Stoke would consider buggering him off.We should actually realise that the experienced players who we are currently lauding, are the buggers who got us into this situation in the first place. Out of the experienced players the only ones I’d keep are: Clucas ( he has won me over) McLean (squad player) Batth (squad player only) Afobe- give him a chance in a two pronged attack Allen Powell ( hopefully keep him fit) Vokes ( squad player only). Smith- although I’d like to see us have two fullbacks signed up! Ince, Gregory, BMI, Butland,Chester,Wimmer, Etebo, N’Diaye can all seek employment elsewhere if we can find anyone to take them off our hands. It will be interesting to see what MO’n would like and to see what he’s able to get- he’s already said he needs to freshen it up, but that 31 players is too big a squad. Have they or has anyone ? Some of our posters take great delight in highlighting his lack of fitness, poor touch etc but seem to forget that he does what a forward is picked for-I.e. score! Just look at some of today’s posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 17:38:47 GMT
I think it's probably not so much about the academy players, really, despite his seemingly taking a stab at them. I think O'Neill's started talking to the board through the media/interviews. The board probably think we can ideally augment a decent squad with a bunch of academy lads. They might have told him that there will be no heavy investment in the next transfer window. O'Neill knows he barely has 11 men good enough to keep us up, although he's just done that. He does not have a sufficiently strong enough squad to mount a major challenge next season, so he wants to be able to buy players for as much as his predecessors did. If enough people buy that line of thinking, the board could have a re-thimk, he hopes. That in itself is of course a stab in the back of any young hopeful. Is there much movement for the board though, if we can't get rid he'll have very little to spend due to FFP. FFP? After the decision the other day can anyone take that seriously? |
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