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Post by Hannibal on Jul 15, 2020 18:10:42 GMT
He's an average striker but I can see why managers like him, always puts a shift in, regardless of the lack in quality
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2020 18:11:20 GMT
He's shite, as advised at time of signing, yet people on here were creaming their under crackers at the thought of the next SJW. Walters was miles better
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Post by Robo10 on Jul 15, 2020 18:13:15 GMT
Nobody can fault his workrate, but he is paid tens of thousands of pounds per week to be a professional footballer at least capable of trapping a ball or finishing a simple chance.
Was awful, pulling my hair out attrocious stuff
Dont get me wrong Vokes didnt have a great game either, but given a sniff he usually scores
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jul 15, 2020 18:13:37 GMT
He's shite, as advised at time of signing, yet people on here were creaming their under crackers at the thought of the next SJW. Nah they weren't. I'm not even going to deny that I was....😂 He's next to Break Shea in my 'predictions yet to come good file.' 😉😁
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 15, 2020 18:19:55 GMT
Cereal packet striker. 🤔
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Post by loosestools on Jul 15, 2020 18:24:59 GMT
I watched him quite closely tonight and my conclusion is - he's shit.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 15, 2020 18:32:25 GMT
Him and Vokes were shite
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2020 18:37:25 GMT
He's a reasonably intelligent player, that's one of the reasons we had so much more space in attacking positions than we normally have away from home. Unfortunately, he couldn't proverbially finish the proverbial fish supper.
Quite why he gets so much stick over Vokes, I'm genuinely perplexed by.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 15, 2020 18:40:07 GMT
There is no point: he's shite.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 18:42:07 GMT
He was the better of the two strikers tonight hands down, and why Vokes gets away with so much I don't know. His performance was abysmal. No movement, won hardly anything in the air - a total non entity. Gregory at least offers movement, stretches defenders, creates space.
His movement would have been a perfect foil for Campbell and at least given us half a chance of an out ball.
As it was we had two strikers that didn't/couldn't move and we were penned in.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 15, 2020 18:58:50 GMT
I know he missed chances but he was head and shoulders above Vokes today
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 15, 2020 19:24:47 GMT
He fluffed his lines when through on goal but he offered way more than Vokes did.
That was back to pre lockdown Vokes the guy who doesn't win a single header against half decent defenders and is a true clodhopper with a ball at his feet.
Gregory is an intelligent player but it just hasn't worked for him at Stoke. He can't score for toffee
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 15, 2020 19:44:19 GMT
He fluffed his lines when through on goal but he offered way more than Vokes did. That was back to pre lockdown Vokes the guy who doesn't win a single header against half decent defenders and is a true clodhopper with a ball at his feet. Gregory is an intelligent player but it just hasn't worked for him at Stoke. He can't score for toffee Just about sums it all up. We desperately need rid of both ASAP
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 15, 2020 20:09:39 GMT
He's shite, as advised at time of signing, yet people on here were creaming their under crackers at the thought of the next SJW. Walters was miles better Understatement of the year. Walters was an effective PL performer (had his faults but he was) Gregory couldn't lace his boots.
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Post by femark on Jul 15, 2020 20:11:48 GMT
We know he tries but he has no idea how to put a football into a fucking goal. No pace, no touch & no technique whatsoever. Works hard for the team, runs the channels well, holds up the ball, brings others into play, intelligent movement, gets into goal scoring positions... That enough?
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 15, 2020 20:15:26 GMT
He was the better of the two strikers tonight hands down, and why Vokes gets away with so much I don't know. His performance was abysmal. No movement, won hardly anything in the air - a total non entity. Gregory at least offers movement, stretches defenders, creates space. His movement would have been a perfect foil for Campbell and at least given us half a chance of an out ball. As it was we had two strikers that didn't/couldn't move and we were penned in. At least Vokes has goal in him.
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 15, 2020 20:20:43 GMT
Lee Gregory couldn't score a goal if the goal took up half of Planet Earth. Hard worker, grafter, nothing much else.
However, Vokes tonight was atrocious. I'm not sure I saw him win an actual header all 90 minutes. It was like going back to pre lockdown Vokes. Does have a goal in him though, unlike Gregory.
The fact is we have a poor striker pool. Campbell has been a shining light, and the jury is out with MON on Afobe. New striker(s) inbound this window you'd suspect.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 15, 2020 20:24:43 GMT
We know he tries but he has no idea how to put a football into a fucking goal. No pace, no touch & no technique whatsoever. Works hard for the team, runs the channels well, holds up the ball, brings others into play, intelligent movement, gets into goal scoring positions... That enough? No, 4 goals and 2 of them penalties is nowhere near enough. Strikers are and always will be judged on goals scored per minutes on the pitch. He makes the average Vokes actually look half decent.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 15, 2020 20:29:48 GMT
A lot of what he does is really good until he gets space and an opportunity to score. He should have found himself another position because he's not a striker, he has stage fright when a chance to score comes along.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2020 20:33:14 GMT
He was the better of the two strikers tonight hands down, and why Vokes gets away with so much I don't know. His performance was abysmal. No movement, won hardly anything in the air - a total non entity. Gregory at least offers movement, stretches defenders, creates space. His movement would have been a perfect foil for Campbell and at least given us half a chance of an out ball. As it was we had two strikers that didn't/couldn't move and we were penned in. At least Vokes has goal in him. Pity he hasn't got a run or any movement in him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 20:35:15 GMT
At least Vokes has goal in him. Pity he hasn't got a run or any movement in him. Pity he hasn't got goals in him either. 8 in 46?
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 15, 2020 21:11:23 GMT
Pity he hasn't got a run or any movement in him. Pity he hasn't got goals in him either. 8 in 46? Both are piss poor strikers both bought here by a piss poor manager, difference is one cost the thick end of £9million at least the other has the excuse of costing fcuk all.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Jul 15, 2020 21:15:24 GMT
Pity he hasn't got a run or any movement in him. Pity he hasn't got goals in him either. 8 in 46? 20 of those 46 were as a sub
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 15, 2020 21:31:00 GMT
He's a 10 goal a season striker in this league. He's average at best. Really? 10 goals???
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Post by jaybee on Jul 15, 2020 21:38:33 GMT
I thought that, bar the one on one, he did OK.
Did Vokes touch the ball once Greggers had gone off?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 15, 2020 21:59:45 GMT
He's a 10 goal a season striker in this league. He's average at best. Really? 10 goals??? Yeah that's what he has averaged in the championship.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jul 15, 2020 22:56:26 GMT
Bit of a headless chicken
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Post by jzime on Jul 15, 2020 23:19:04 GMT
Gregory is an intelligent player and he clearly runs around a lot. Some of his movement is good, but it counts for nothing if you don't score (or, at the very least, create space for other players to score). Walters used to get a lot of (unjustified) stick for being perceived as a player who ran around a lot and didn't offer enough end product, but he scored goals at a level that Lee Gregory will never, and could never, play at.
It's completely and utterly pathetic that the people in charge of this club spent last summer telling themselves that they believed we could get promoted while handing out a two-year-contract to a 31-year-old forward who spent half his career in non-league and has never been anything but mediocre in a second division season. Jones signed Gregory and Hogan because he genuinely didn't rate Campbell, who still has a lot to learn but is already better player than Gregory will ever be. It's really hard to overstate just how much Jones fucked us, and we're bloody lucky how quickly O'Neill was able to sort out Campbell's contract situation after our last two managers actively avoided playing him.
I hope we find somebody who wants to loan Gregory next season, because I'd be astounded if we were able to sell him given the wages we'll be paying him.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jul 15, 2020 23:40:37 GMT
Bereft of any ounce of confidence - could and should have had 3 had he not a) miscontrolled through on goal b) fell over from a good pullback c) missed a simple 1 on 1 Thats before his various poor passes, miscontrols etc What is it with Stoke City and buying established strikers who couldnt finish their dinner in red and white? Must be a long list Tony Ellis Dave Bamber Marco Gabbiadini (albeit fat and past it) Paul Stewart (as above) Carl Asaba Chris Greenacre Dave Kitson Must be loads who scored 20+ a season before and then after us! Got to put Campbell on surely, he would love this game! To be fair I thought we played ok until the final third then all the players touches and passes were wayward when we were in good positions.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 15, 2020 23:47:44 GMT
Gregory is an intelligent player and he clearly runs around a lot. Some of his movement is good, but it counts for nothing if you don't score (or, at the very least, create space for other players to score). Walters used to get a lot of (unjustified) stick for being perceived as a player who ran around a lot and didn't offer enough end product, but he scored goals at a level that Lee Gregory will never, and could never, play at. It's completely and utterly pathetic that the people in charge of this club spent last summer telling themselves that they believed we could get promoted while handing out a two-year-contract to a 31-year-old forward who spent half his career in non-league and has never been anything but mediocre in a second division season. Jones signed Gregory and Hogan because he genuinely didn't rate Campbell, who still has a lot to learn but is already better player than Gregory will ever be. It's really hard to overstate just how much Jones fucked us, and we're bloody lucky how quickly O'Neill was able to sort out Campbell's contract situation after our last two managers actively avoided playing him. I hope we find somebody who wants to loan Gregory next season, because I'd be astounded if we were able to sell him given the wages we'll be paying him. £9M Vokes?!??!
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