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Post by silverdollar on Jul 12, 2020 15:45:59 GMT
If Stoke Lose the remaining three games Stoke will end up with 49 points. For clubs to finish above Stoke they will have to do the following:-
Middlesboro One win against Reading a) Cardiff h) Sheff W a)
Hull City Two wins against Wigan a) Luton h) Cardiff a)
Wigan (12pts deducted) Two wins and a draw from Hull City h) Charlton a) Fulham h)
Luton Two wins and a draw from QPR h) Hull City a) Blackburn h)
Huddersfield One win from Sheff W a) West Brom h) Millwall a)
Birmingham One draw from Charlton h) Preston a) Derby h)
Charlton One win and a draw from Birmingham a) Wigan h) Leeds Utd a)
Barnsley Two wins and a draw Leeds Utd a) Notts Forest h) Brentford a)
If you bare in mind that many of the above clubs are involved in playing each other I would suggest it will be very difficult for more than six of the clubs mentioned to achieve what they need to do.
My three clubs for relegation would be:-
Barnsley
Luton
Hull City
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Post by wrighter on Jul 12, 2020 15:54:20 GMT
I hope Barnsley stay up
Good club, loyal fans, nice ground
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 12, 2020 15:56:18 GMT
I hope Barnsley stay up Good club, loyal fans, nice ground Barnsley have a worse last three games than us. They are long odds on to get relegated I would think. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 12, 2020 15:56:23 GMT
I hope Barnsley stay up Good club, loyal fans, nice ground They can be fourth bottom as long as we're fifth or sixth |
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 12, 2020 15:59:12 GMT
Yes absolutely massive win today mate👍
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2020 16:00:05 GMT
I hope Barnsley stay up Good club, loyal fans, nice ground Yes However I think they have no chance now |
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Jul 12, 2020 16:00:14 GMT
It's a crazy division. You'd think given that we have mustered vital wins against a couple of our relegation rivals recently we'd be looking much more comfortable than we are, even given the couple of recent tonkings we have received. You just can't trust some of these other clubs to be shit and remain consistently shit though.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 12, 2020 16:01:46 GMT
We are not 100% safe just yet,lose our last 3 games,we will be looking over our shoulders.
More so if Wigan end up with 12 more points than us.
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Post by stokefc on Jul 12, 2020 16:02:29 GMT
can anyone get relegated this week?
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Post by thanksjon on Jul 12, 2020 16:03:21 GMT
We are so unpredictable it is impossible to relax.
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 12, 2020 16:06:24 GMT
We are not 100% save just yet,lose our last 3 games,we will be looking over our shoulders. More so if Wigan end up with 12 more points than us. Wigan have to win two and draw one of their remaining fixtures to climb above Stoke. If they do that it means that Hull City and Charlton have lost against Wigan which means both will finish below Stoke! |
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Jul 12, 2020 16:08:02 GMT
If Stoke Lose the remaining three games Stoke will end up with 49 points. For clubs to finish above Stoke they will have to do the following:- Middlesboro One win against Reading a) Cardiff h) Sheff W a) Hull City Two wins against Wigan a) Luton h) Cardiff a) Wigan (12pts deducted) Two wins and a draw from Hull City h) Charlton a) Fulham h) Luton Two wins and a draw from QPR h) Hull City a) Blackburn h) Huddersfield One win from Sheff W a) West Brom h) Millwall a) Birmingham One draw from Charlton h) Preston a) Derby h) Charlton One win and a draw from Birmingham a) Wigan h) Leeds Utd a) Barnsley Two wins and a draw Leeds Utd a) Notts Forest h) Brentford a) If you bare in mind that many of the above clubs are involved in playing each other I would suggest it will be very difficult for more than six of the clubs mentioned to achieve what they need to do. My three clubs for relegation would be:- Barnsley Luton Hull City I am by no means convinced Wigan will get any deduction in the end, I won't be at all surprised if "special circumstances" are deemed to be applied to it, so I think they are safe no matter what. Basically as long as we stay up and Luton don't I'll be happy and don't mind who the other two are. |
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Post by philb on Jul 12, 2020 16:08:06 GMT
Really can’t see us losing 3 on the trot so I reckon we’re safe now. A point from any of those games will make certain and knowing Stoke we’ll pick up more than that! Brentford have to settle for a play off place if West Brom win on Tuesday so that’ll hopefully make it a bit easier for us next Saturday. I can see a draw from Bristol and Brentford and a defeat at Forest (when it’ll mean sod all) 🤞
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 12, 2020 16:32:09 GMT
We are not 100% save just yet,lose our last 3 games,we will be looking over our shoulders. More so if Wigan end up with 12 more points than us. Wigan have to win two and draw one of their remaining fixtures to climb above Stoke. If they do that it means that Hull City and Charlton have lost against Wigan which means both will finish below Stoke! Need to check your maths. They can lose a game and still get 51 and 52 points |
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 12, 2020 16:36:26 GMT
Wigan have to win two and draw one of their remaining fixtures to climb above Stoke. If they do that it means that Hull City and Charlton have lost against Wigan which means both will finish below Stoke! Need to check your maths. They can lose a game and still get 51 and 52 points If Wigan have twelve points deducted it would mean they presently have 42points with three games left. If they win all three they will achieve 51 points but my post was about what they have to do to get above 49 points which Stoke are presently on therefore win two and a draw would put them on 49 points and above Stoke if we lose all three remaining games. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2020 16:38:21 GMT
Need to check your maths. They can lose a game and still get 51 and 52 points If Wigan have twelve points deducted it would mean they presently have 42points with three games left. If they win all three they will achieve 51 points but my post was about what they have to do to get above 49 points which Stoke are presently on therefore win two and a draw would put them on 49 points and above Stoke if we lose all three remaining games. Who were you on about then, when you said BOTH would finish below Stoke? |
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Post by palerider on Jul 12, 2020 16:50:22 GMT
IF... Sheffield wed and Wigan are deducted 12 then technically we are 15th
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Post by sifta on Jul 12, 2020 17:05:46 GMT
If Stoke Lose the remaining three games Stoke will end up with 49 points. For clubs to finish above Stoke they will have to do the following:- Middlesboro One win against Reading a) Cardiff h) Sheff W a) Hull City Two wins against Wigan a) Luton h) Cardiff a) Wigan (12pts deducted) Two wins and a draw from Hull City h) Charlton a) Fulham h) Luton Two wins and a draw from QPR h) Hull City a) Blackburn h) Huddersfield One win from Sheff W a) West Brom h) Millwall a) Birmingham One draw from Charlton h) Preston a) Derby h) Charlton One win and a draw from Birmingham a) Wigan h) Leeds Utd a) Barnsley Two wins and a draw Leeds Utd a) Notts Forest h) Brentford a) If you bare in mind that many of the above clubs are involved in playing each other I would suggest it will be very difficult for more than six of the clubs mentioned to achieve what they need to do. My three clubs for relegation would be:- Barnsley Luton Hull City Pretty much just posted exactly this in the match thread, should have looked here first DOH! We are pretty close to being safe,
For us to go down, even if we lose our last 3 games, the following have to happen (Assuming no drastic GD changes, out of line with regular wins and losses): 1. Birmingham to pick up a point from their last 3 games. (Bad as they are this should happen, but not guaranteed) 2. Middlesborough, Huddersfield and Charlton all pick up 3 points from last 3 games. (Probable, but not certain, especially as Charlton's best chances are against Wigan and Birmingham which help us, while their last game is at Elland Road) Assuming 1 and 2 all happen, then 2 of the following need to happen as well: 1. Barnsley to take 7 points off Leeds, Forest, and Brentford. (Snowball's chance)
2. Wigan to take 7 points off Hull, Fulham, and Charlton (Possible, but damages Hull)
3. Hull to take 5 points off Wigan, Luton, and Cardiff (Possible, but makes it harder for Wigan, Luton, or both)
4. Luton to take 6 points from QPR, Hull, and Blackburn (very possible, but damages Hull) If we take a point from our last 3 games, it gets even easier to stay up. I expect us to be safe by Thursday, or at the worst by next Saturday.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 12, 2020 17:15:03 GMT
If Stoke Lose the remaining three games Stoke will end up with 49 points. For clubs to finish above Stoke they will have to do the following:- Middlesboro One win against Reading a) Cardiff h) Sheff W a) Hull City Two wins against Wigan a) Luton h) Cardiff a) Wigan (12pts deducted) Two wins and a draw from Hull City h) Charlton a) Fulham h) Luton Two wins and a draw from QPR h) Hull City a) Blackburn h) Huddersfield One win from Sheff W a) West Brom h) Millwall a) Birmingham One draw from Charlton h) Preston a) Derby h) Charlton One win and a draw from Birmingham a) Wigan h) Leeds Utd a) Barnsley Two wins and a draw Leeds Utd a) Notts Forest h) Brentford a) If you bare in mind that many of the above clubs are involved in playing each other I would suggest it will be very difficult for more than six of the clubs mentioned to achieve what they need to do. My three clubs for relegation would be:- Barnsley Luton Hull City Pretty much just posted exactly this in the match thread, should have looked here first DOH! We are pretty close to being safe,
For us to go down, even if we lose our last 3 games, the following have to happen (Assuming no drastic GD changes, out of line with regular wins and losses): 1. Birmingham to pick up a point from their last 3 games. (Bad as they are this should happen, but not guaranteed) 2. Middlesborough, Huddersfield and Charlton all pick up 3 points from last 3 games. (Probable, but not certain, especially as Charlton's best chances are against Wigan and Birmingham which help us, while their last game is at Elland Road) Assuming 1 and 2 all happen, then 2 of the following need to happen as well: 1. Barnsley to take 7 points off Leeds, Forest, and Brentford. (Snowball's chance)
2. Wigan to take 7 points off Hull, Fulham, and Charlton (Possible, but damages Hull)
3. Hull to take 5 points off Wigan, Luton, and Cardiff (Possible, but makes it harder for Wigan, Luton, or both)
4. Luton to take 6 points from QPR, Hull, and Blackburn (very possible, but damages Hull) If we take a point from our last 3 games, it gets even easier to stay up. I expect us to be safe by Thursday, or at the worst by next Saturday.
If only James ‘Jester’ hadn’t unnecessarily fouled that Luton bloke in the penalty area in the last minute at Kenilworth Rd, we’d be safe tonight. I’m sure we’re going to be ok though despite that simply because of the games where teams below us have to play each other. Barnsley won’t conceivably be able to catch us if they lose at Leeds on Thursday. Then we have Wigan v Hull on Tuesday and Hull v Luton on Saturday. BM |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jul 12, 2020 18:00:24 GMT
If Stoke Lose the remaining three games Stoke will end up with 49 points. For clubs to finish above Stoke they will have to do the following:- Middlesboro One win against Reading a) Cardiff h) Sheff W a) Hull City Two wins against Wigan a) Luton h) Cardiff a) Wigan (12pts deducted) Two wins and a draw from Hull City h) Charlton a) Fulham h) Luton Two wins and a draw from QPR h) Hull City a) Blackburn h) Huddersfield One win from Sheff W a) West Brom h) Millwall a) Birmingham One draw from Charlton h) Preston a) Derby h) Charlton One win and a draw from Birmingham a) Wigan h) Leeds Utd a) Barnsley Two wins and a draw Leeds Utd a) Notts Forest h) Brentford a) If you bare in mind that many of the above clubs are involved in playing each other I would suggest it will be very difficult for more than six of the clubs mentioned to achieve what they need to do. My three clubs for relegation would be:- Barnsley Luton Hull City Huddersfield’s run in is difficult so don’t be surprised if they get sucked in too? |
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Post by telfordstokie on Jul 12, 2020 18:08:40 GMT
The chance of us going into the last game in the bottom three is now tiny. Forest may be a good game if we do need anything as looking more and more likely they will be safely in the play-offs and resting players/playing with less intensity to avoid injury.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 18:12:39 GMT
It's very difficult for us to go down now. Even losing every game would need a huge effort by other clubs which is unlikely. Barnsley go to Leeds and a Luton loss in the next 3 really kills them off catching us.
Am going to relax with a Capri Sun now and see if can get the straw in without it squirting out
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2020 18:13:26 GMT
99.8% chance of survival if the Wigan deduction holds?
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 12, 2020 18:14:46 GMT
We are not 100% safe just yet,lose our last 3 games,we will be looking over our shoulders. More so if Wigan end up with 12 more points than us. For that to happen they would be beating other teams around us so it’s good news either way |
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Post by victormature on Jul 12, 2020 18:22:10 GMT
Based purely on recent results and the remaining 3 games
Luton must get 6 pts .....
Got to be the drop for Barnsley.... Hull ...... either Charlton or Huddersfield on G/D
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Post by underdog on Jul 12, 2020 18:36:09 GMT
It'll go down to the wire. Not safe at all. 2 draws or 1 win would do it.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 12, 2020 18:56:32 GMT
Should be safe now but still big changes are needed in that squad or we’ll just go down next season
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 12, 2020 19:01:54 GMT
I think 49 will probably be enough, one more win though to make sure
Onto the close season, it is going to be really interesting who MoN signs and who he gets rid of
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 12, 2020 19:27:55 GMT
99.8% chance of survival if the Wigan deduction holds? It'd be interesting to know what it would be if it doesn't ... |
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2020 19:29:26 GMT
It'll go down to the wire. Not safe at all. 2 draws or 1 win would do it. 1 draw would do it for sure |
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