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Post by raythesailor on Jul 7, 2020 16:42:25 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄
I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me;
The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me.
Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!!
Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️
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Post by telfordstoke on Jul 7, 2020 16:46:01 GMT
We have some pool cars and they do the engine stop at lights thing and handbrake is a button, stresses me out every time I use the bloody things lol. Good luck with it anyway, will be second nature in no time
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Post by yeokel on Jul 7, 2020 16:49:15 GMT
My car does have a hand brake but if you stop on an incline and take your foot off the foot brake, it doesn't roll backwards anyway so no real need for a handbrake. It can't go backwards until you touch the accelerator.
It's pretty cool and should, in my opinion, be an option that is made compulsary for all women drivers  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 16:51:50 GMT
Auto handbrakes are the future
Manual ones are sad
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Post by marylandstoke on Jul 7, 2020 17:14:29 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ Had to take mine out economy mode in DC as every time you stop the engine stopped thus no a/c. So the very mode you needed for city driving was of no use whatsoever. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 7, 2020 17:47:24 GMT
I found the hill start assist dead handy on mine although it took a few goes to get used to. Works in reverse as well.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 7, 2020 17:57:53 GMT
My new car has no reverse gear, as according to the manual going backwards is for "gays and losers".* **
* This may not be true.
** I don't really know what I was trying to achieve with this post.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Jul 7, 2020 18:02:17 GMT
My new car has no reverse gear, as according to the manual going backwards is for "gays and losers".* ** * This may not be true. ** I don't really know what I was trying to achieve with this post. Ah the good old 1963 Reliant Regal. A wonderful car! |
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 7, 2020 18:16:36 GMT
Daf, Varomatic
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2020 19:34:16 GMT
Mines an auto, with electronic handbrake, hill start, park assist, there's literally nothing for me to do.
Give me my 1980 Escort 1600 Sport any day.
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Jul 7, 2020 21:06:30 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ My last 5 cars haven't had a handbrake, the first without one was a 2005 VW passat. Leave the clutch, throttle, handbrake balance to the peasant's, you won't miss it  Better still get an automatic and do away with all that clutch and gear changing bollox as well  |
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jul 7, 2020 23:39:02 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ My last 5 cars haven't had a handbrake, the first without one was a 2005 VW passat. Leave the clutch, throttle, handbrake balance to the peasant's, you won't miss it Better still get an automatic and do away with all that clutch and gear changing bollox as well I went back to a manual transmission last fall, hard to find manuals nowadays--wound up buying a Jetta. I'd been driving manuals since I learned to drive, but back in 2014 I decided to get an automatic for a change. Bad decision--completely bored driving it and particularly hated the lack of "feel" with the car, especially during winter time and iffy road conditions. I'll never buy an automatic again as long as manuals are still available or until I'm too old and can't physically drive a manual which means I probably shouldn't be driving any car at that point. Anyway, the Jetta has the annoying hill assist feature and the auto handbrake--unfortunately no way around it, I think a lot of these things are integrated with safety systems in all cars now. Thankfully, I don't have that engine stopping nonsense--how long does the starter last on those anyway? Guess I should enjoy still being able to drive a car while it lasts, pretty soon we'll all just be passengers with 1000 yard stares... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 6:49:16 GMT
Wait till you get a car that can park itself, scares the shit out of me every time, I sit there with my head in my hands sneaking a glimpse through the gaps in my fingers...
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Post by maxplonk on Jul 8, 2020 7:13:11 GMT
It's not a real man's motor if you don't have to double the clutch.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 8, 2020 7:24:28 GMT
Now there was a care years before its time as fast in reverse as forward and all by a rubber band I supposed another great idea smothered as it would of involved much less future revenue in repair and parts |
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 8, 2020 9:56:22 GMT
Wait till you get a car that can park itself, scares the shit out of me every time, I sit there with my head in my hands sneaking a glimpse through the gaps in my fingers... My wife's driving does that to me. |
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Post by questionable on Jul 8, 2020 10:33:56 GMT
The wife’s Audi has an auto handbrake, hate the thing.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 8, 2020 10:47:02 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ My car has a handbrake but also hill start assist. With this when pulling away on an incline you have to sit de-clutched and in 1st gear with your foot on the brake pedal. When you lift off the brake to move away the hill start assist holds you from rolling back for a few seconds then disengages as you pull away. I like it but the Mrs dunner because if the incline isn’t very steep it doesn’t work so she always relies on the handbrake. On the other hand I can tell when the hill start assist engages because the foot brake pedal goes very hard. Auto stop/start (ASS) for me goes against all engineering principles of engine wear prevention. Since the year dot lube oil companies and engine manufacturers have stated that the heaviest wear and tear on an engine is during the start cycle and oils such as Magnatec were produced to help combat this. In addition to bearing and cylinder liner wear, continual stop start puts additional stress on other components such as starter motor. ASS imo is just another EU directive to decrease car emissions even though there is evidence that it has very minimal reduction effect because an engine start cycle produces more emissions. Of course it all depends on how often in a journey your engine stops and also the time the engine is stationery. It is estimated that an average engine will experience 10 times more start cycles over its life using ASS. We live in rural location so the need and any environmental benefit from ASS is virtually nil so I deselect ASS every time I start a journey. This can be done by locating and depressing the switch similar to that shown below. With most vehicles you will have to do this at the start of every journey. Enjoy your new car Ray. Attachment Deleted |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 8, 2020 12:41:39 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ My car has a handbrake but also hill start assist. With this when pulling away on an incline you have to sit de-clutched and in 1st gear with your foot on the brake pedal. When you lift off the brake to move away the hill start assist holds you from rolling back for a few seconds then disengages as you pull away. I like it but the Mrs dunner because if the incline isn’t very steep it doesn’t work so she always relies on the handbrake. On the other hand I can tell when the hill start assist engages because the foot brake pedal goes very hard. Auto stop/start (ASS) for me goes against all engineering principles of engine wear prevention. Since the year dot lube oil companies and engine manufacturers have stated that the heaviest wear and tear on an engine is during the start cycle and oils such as Magnatec were produced to help combat this. In addition to bearing and cylinder liner wear, continual stop start puts additional stress on other components such as starter motor. ASS imo is just another EU directive to decrease car emissions even though there is evidence that it has very minimal reduction effect because an engine start cycle produces more emissions. Of course it all depends on how often in a journey your engine stops and also the time the engine is stationery. It is estimated that an average engine will experience 10 times more start cycles over its life using ASS. We live in rural location so the need and any environmental benefit from ASS is virtually nil so I deselect ASS every time I start a journey. This can be done by locating and depressing the switch similar to that shown below. With most vehicles you will have to do this at the start of every journey. Enjoy your new car Ray. View AttachmentThe hill start assist can be turned off on mine by going into the vehicle parameters in the computer but I've got used to it now and find it useful. Quite complex for a Citroen. Mind you they did invent the DS and on the CX the handbrake was foot operated, 👍🤔😄 |
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Post by Orbs on Jul 8, 2020 12:52:05 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ That continual cutting out at lights and when stationary pisses me off - Just switch it off. My mechanic said they're a pain in the arse to fix too. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 8, 2020 20:19:23 GMT
I don’t know what the handbrake is on my Bentley as I leave all that to my chauffeur
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 9, 2020 11:25:16 GMT
Now there was a care years before its time as fast in reverse as forward and all by a rubber band I supposed another great idea smothered as it would of involved much less future revenue in repair and parts The system never really went away, it's now known as CVT; Continuously Variable Transmission using a steel belt instead of a rubber band. In theory it's a great system, but in practice it's just plain odd as the engine note tends to stay flat as you accelerate which I think is the main reason it's not caught on with cars. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 9, 2020 12:56:46 GMT
Now there was a care years before its time as fast in reverse as forward and all by a rubber band I supposed another great idea smothered as it would of involved much less future revenue in repair and parts The system never really went away, it's now known as CVT; Continuously Variable Transmission using a steel belt instead of a rubber band. In theory it's a great system, but in practice it's just plain odd as the engine note tends to stay flat as you accelerate which I think is the main reason it's not caught on with cars. And there's the cynic in me thinking that it was dumped because of less parts thus meaning less repairs and services |
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jul 9, 2020 18:07:04 GMT
I think the only way to be indifferent to a CVT is to never have experienced any other transmission before. They are soul-less.
Edit: It just occurred to me that my comment would be true for any transmission, but the second bit stands.
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 9, 2020 20:33:13 GMT
Cars sold in Holland don’t have handbrakes. No hills so not needed. If you want to steal a car you can just push it home.
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Post by zelem on Jul 22, 2020 18:11:17 GMT
I pick up a new car tomorrow the first one for many years. Following the Covid lockdown and questioning my longevity I thought what the hell, spend the kids inheritance 😄 I am sure I will get used to it but two things are bothering me; The car has no handbrake ? What happens when you stop at traffic lights on an incline. ? I know it applies the brake automatically but will feel uncomfortable. I am sure it is all ok but seems weird to me. Then to compound it when I stop at the lights the engine stops.!! Are these modern changes for changes sake or are they an improvement ? 🧐⚓️ Yes these modern day cars have a lot less features than olden day cars, im pretty sure they’ve removed the indicator switches from BMWs aswell. |
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Better still get an automatic and do away with all that clutch and gear changing bollox as well 
