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Post by silverdollar on Jul 5, 2020 9:52:55 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for.
We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede!
I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up!
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Post by newsteadst3 on Jul 5, 2020 9:55:56 GMT
At last some perspective on it, we will be all on the ceiling again Thursday night.No way are out of this yet
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 5, 2020 9:56:59 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! How much penetration do you want mate? We scored 4! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 5, 2020 10:09:30 GMT
I never got the feeling Barnsley would score yesterday tbh
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 5, 2020 10:11:50 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! How much penetration do you want mate? We scored 4! I'd have thought you of all people would understand an insatiable craving for deeper penetration? |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 5, 2020 10:13:28 GMT
I never got the feeling Barnsley would score yesterday tbh Me neither, had Stoke 3-1 Barnsley so for a large period of the match I was feeling very guilty with how angered I was getting at how shit they were going forward. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 10:20:25 GMT
Knowing some of our fans they'll probably expect us to win the next game 4-0 and throw tantrums if we don't...away against Leeds!
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 5, 2020 10:23:03 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! How much penetration do you want mate? We scored 4! The goals we scored came from set pieces and yes we scored four but when I talk about "penetration" I am talking about open play and Stoke players moving the ball through the opposition lines by good passing, by Stoke having good width and wide players getting past their full backs or by our forwards making runs in behind Barnsley's back line. Campbell scored two great goals which shows his ability to take opportunities but do you remember him and Vokes ever making incisive runs in behind the Barnsley defensive line? |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jul 5, 2020 10:31:51 GMT
The reason Barnsley looked crap (and no doubt are) was because yesterday's team actually pressed the ball and closed down the space. We were able to dominate because of how we played. We could have had similar results against Middlesbrough and Wigan had those teams actually put a shift in.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jul 5, 2020 10:32:47 GMT
We didn't really play any better oe worse than when we have won or lost before.
The difference was Barnsley didn't get at Butland for him to make his usual mistakes.
Thursday will be different because Biesla will have his homework done and Leeds have players who can shoot, cross the ball and take corners and no doubt flap jack will drop his usual bollixs.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 5, 2020 10:47:52 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! Only beat what’s in front of you |
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jul 5, 2020 10:48:06 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! Totally true & we could come back down to earth with a bump on Thursday still plenty of twists & turns to come before this seasons over. Having said that if Luton can go to Leeds & get a draw i see no reason why we cannot get something from the game. |
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Post by toptom007 on Jul 5, 2020 18:28:20 GMT
Knock on wood, But I can see 3 more points being enough, Just Because some of the clubs down here are dog awful and enough of them can't go on a run to overtake us.
TBH I think we might even get the points we need from Leeds choking their promotion rather than us being good too!
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Post by cerebralstokie on Jul 5, 2020 18:50:43 GMT
If we get relegated, the game which will come back to haunt us is the home defeat to Middlesborough. It was a real 6 pointer. If they don't get a points deduction, Wigan are probably safe. If they do get a points deduction they will have an 8 point deficit compared to ourselves which would be a mountain to climb. One thing I will say in favour of M.O.N. is his ability to lift the team after a poor performance and result. He will need all of these qualities in the coming games, but I reckon 5 or 6 points will probably be enough for safety as our goal difference is better than teams around us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 20:12:54 GMT
Barnsley may be crap/useless/there for the taking or whatever but they hadn't conceded in the last 3 games winning two of them. They are where they are on merit but we scored 4 when many tipped us to lose and never let them worry us.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 5, 2020 20:14:22 GMT
Why the fuck not? We've got nothing else!
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Post by neddy on Jul 5, 2020 20:16:05 GMT
It’s too soon to call just yet as we have seen this weekend anything can happen and probably will.....just got to keep looking at ourselves!
I think 5 points would do it but hey!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 20:17:26 GMT
I'm getting carried away. I deserve it, we all do. Am so carried away am going to have blueberry muffin and treat myself so there.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 5, 2020 20:37:13 GMT
Out to 14s all of a sudden.  |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 5, 2020 20:39:49 GMT
Out to 14s all of a sudden. That would tie in with Taycon’s we get relegated 7 times out of 100 (including Wigan’s points discount) |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 6, 2020 7:32:10 GMT
Out to 14s all of a sudden. That would tie in with Taycon’s we get relegated 7 times out of 100 (including Wigan’s points discount)  Yeah - that was very reassuring! Objectively, it'd take something weird for us to go down. Not saying it can't happen, but it'd be weird. Which, considering I thought we were gone on Tuesday night, is quite something! |
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 6, 2020 7:44:06 GMT
That would tie in with Taycon’s we get relegated 7 times out of 100 (including Wigan’s points discount) Yeah - that was very reassuring! Objectively, it'd take something weird for us to go down. Not saying it can't happen, but it'd be weird. Which, considering I thought we were gone on Tuesday night, is quite something!
Like many, I too thought we were toast earlier in the week &, illogically, will probably think so again on Thursday after we get thumped by Leeds.
That said, if MoN plays the same or a similar side, you never know. |
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Post by neddy on Jul 6, 2020 7:54:36 GMT
What would the statistics show if lose to Leeds and the others win wouldn’t it swing massively!
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 6, 2020 8:01:58 GMT
That would tie in with Taycon’s we get relegated 7 times out of 100 (including Wigan’s points discount) Yeah - that was very reassuring! Objectively, it'd take something weird for us to go down. Not saying it can't happen, but it'd be weird. Which, considering I thought we were gone on Tuesday night, is quite something! I know you look at the infogol stuff quite a lot. They forecast us to finish in 21st place (excluding the Wigan possible deduction) which I find a bit odd given the long odds implied by the bookmakers and Tachyon’s table of probabilities. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2019-20/151They have Charlton, Luton, Barnsley down and Hull, Boro and Huddersfield to finish above us. |
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 6, 2020 8:12:36 GMT
I was relieved as any Stoke City fan yesterday with a win that helped us escape the relegation mire. What I cannot except is that we played so marvellously better! Let's face it! Barnsley were absolutely horrendous in the first half of the game. Defensively they were horrendous! Three good finishes, two from set pieces and the other from terrible defensive play gave us breathing space we were crying out for. We still didn't really show any signs of being able to hold on to the ball for any great length of time and we also showed very little penetration that produced goal chances. When Barnsley attacked we still looked liable to concede! I hope this good result does not give our players a false sense of how "good" we are! I believe that the pending 12 point deduction for Wigan is a godsend and another three points will hopefully see us stay up! I don't think most people think we are suddenly amazing - more just happy that they put some effort in and have done enough to allow us to hope that we might not go down. Fingers crossed for the three points you allude to! 🙂 |
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 6, 2020 8:17:01 GMT
Yeah - that was very reassuring! Objectively, it'd take something weird for us to go down. Not saying it can't happen, but it'd be weird. Which, considering I thought we were gone on Tuesday night, is quite something! I know you look at the infogol stuff quite a lot. They forecast us to finish in 21st place (excluding the Wigan possible deduction) which I find a bit odd given the long odds implied by the bookmakers and Tachyon’s table of probabilities. www.infogol.net/en/leagues/english-football-league-championship-table-2019-20/151They have Charlton, Luton, Barnsley down and Hull, Boro and Huddersfield to finish above us.
They really aren't that optimistic on our run in are they?
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Post by swampmongrel on Jul 6, 2020 8:34:04 GMT
It’s plausible that after Leeds all of our opposition have nothing to play for. Assuming Forest and Brentford secure their playoff spots as looks likely. Could be helpful.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 6, 2020 9:31:20 GMT
Ah, the roller coaster ride that is Stoke City.
Don't get too down when we lose, don't get carried away when we win...just enjoy the moment.
This was a very good weekend for us, both in terms of results and the attitude and application of the players.
We still managed to offer Barnsley some opportunities, which a better side (like Leeds) would have punished us for, but we also showed spirit and ambition, so sadly lacking against Boro and Wigan, so, all-in-all a positive day
As my mate texted, long may it continue
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Post by markby on Jul 6, 2020 16:04:27 GMT
It’s plausible that after Leeds all of our opposition have nothing to play for. Assuming Forest and Brentford secure their playoff spots as looks likely. Could be helpful. Brentford's P/O spot is already all but assured - 4 points from their last 5 games will guarantee it and even then that will only be needed if Derby win all their last 5 games.
They're chasing down WBA for automatic and if they're going to do it (5 points behind, 5 to play, but superior GD), it will almost certainly go to the wire i.e. last couple of games of the season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 6, 2020 16:42:13 GMT
Knowing some of our fans they'll probably expect us to win the next game 4-0 and throw tantrums if we don't...away against Leeds! If we set up well and give it a go I don't think anyone could have any complaints. |
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