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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 12:43:40 GMT
Sorry admin - its not a stoke post per se but I am a stokie of 30 years so it is a tenuously connected stoke post  Hey stokies! Wonder if you can help - putting in an application to build a log cabin on my property. Been informed by the council that the land is special landscape (trees/ grass/ frogs etc etc). When it reality its a massive concrete slab! For the last ten years its also had two massive pidgeon sheds on it (twice the size of the cabin - they also show up on the local plan on the planning portal) The development I'm planning will not require any digging/ no trees down/ no impact on green environment. Can anyone advise on this situation? I've been thinking going down the eco-route might the best bet? |
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Post by Silverdale on Jun 10, 2008 12:47:19 GMT
Find out who the local planning officer is and help him with his bills at home and hey presto!  They're all up for a tickle.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 12:50:58 GMT
I don't understand - have you had planning permission refused?
All you need to show is that the building will not have a negative impact on the environment.
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Post by TheDee51 on Jun 10, 2008 12:51:27 GMT
Ah now I see.
If its got fuck all to do with SCFC or Footie, you can still post topics that are not connected as long as you are a stoke fan??
I get it now.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 12:56:52 GMT
Dee - it'll get moved in a mo'. I'm just trying to build up a head of steam - hope everyone doesn't mind.
Loony - had an official meet with the planning people and they basically told me "its special landscape area you've got bob hope pal!"
Which is a wee bit frustrating considering its a bloody concrete slab and the pidgeon huts the previous owner had on it.
Wondered if there was some loophole I could exploit?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 13:01:10 GMT
Well I think they are speaking bollocks!!
I have never even heard of a 'special landscaped area'. Are you in a conservation area??
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Post by boothenendboy on Jun 10, 2008 13:02:29 GMT
Wondered if there was some loophole I could exploit? yes,the one in your shoe lace. |
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 13:08:38 GMT
thats what I thought! I've checked and there is an official classification for special landscape areas - however its normally applied to picturesque areas not rubble dumps.
In terms of location we are in semi country side with fields etc around us - so I can see where they're coming from.
The most annoying thing is that where we want to put the cabin is a big flippin slab of ugly concrete - thats been there since the dinosaurs!
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 13:09:25 GMT
BeB :-)
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Post by boothenendboy on Jun 10, 2008 13:10:55 GMT
unless you have velcro ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 13:17:14 GMT
Yep - you are right I have found it.
Non-statutory Landscape Designation
There are a plethora of non-statutory landscape designations, mostly designated by local authorities. These designations are not created on a national, or even regional level, but differ between the local authorities. There is an inconsistency in the recognition of what value it is necessary to place on a specific area; few authorities attempt to explain or evaluate their proposals for designations (Bloomer Tweedale Architects and Town Planners, 1992).
A short list of non-statutory landscape designations includes: Special Landscape; Special Landscape Area; Area of Landscape Value/Merit/Significance; Great/Particular Landscape Value; Outstanding Landscape Area/Quality; Local Landscape Area; High Landscape Value; Historic Landscape; Landscape Conservation Area; Landscape Protection/Merit/Feature/Significance.
Fuck knows then - it is controlled purely by the LA so you might be screwed. It seems as though it removes permitted development rights aswell.
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Post by Northy on Jun 10, 2008 13:26:29 GMT
what you should do is take photo's of the existing along with existing plans, then show them the new plans with a building footprint smaller than the pidgeon sheds, and an artisit impression; show you are introducing trees, more grass etc. as as of september you need planning permission to block pave or concrete a drive.
Go the improving the environment and visual landscape route, if they don't listen then you can appeal to a hgher body.
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 13:26:33 GMT
Cheers Loony. The thing that gets me is that I've seen developments get passed in full on green belt land (right in the middle of a the new forest :-0). So why the fook my LA think my 40metres of concrete slab is more important that this god only knows.
What I do know is that if they do reject the application - I'm going to make their lives hell for the next two/three years with appeals and the like. Failing that I'll build it and out up a massive gate that they'll need a tank to break through to get to the cabin.
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Post by jaybee on Jun 10, 2008 13:27:51 GMT
If there's summat there already, then go for retrospective planning for this, then maybe you could 'repair' it at a later date! But .......... get a decent agent to help you, otherwise you may end up with nowt! Just IMHO etc |
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Post by neutron1 on Jun 10, 2008 13:36:24 GMT
Get a conservation report done. You need to know exactly what animals are living around there, because if you don't get a report done, start building, they can make you tear it all down.
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 13:43:51 GMT
Cheers Jaybee/ Neutron
Jaybee can you recommend anyone - I live on the outskirts of blythe bridge.
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Post by onemanbang on Jun 10, 2008 13:53:21 GMT
Hulme upright manning on festival park  As im only a architect i cant help with a tree audit but we have a few people in the office that can help! Cant quite see why they have a problem though unless you didnt use appropriate drawings ie plans, sections, ele's & site plans. |
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 10, 2008 15:08:57 GMT
Cheers Jaybee/ Neutron Jaybee can you recommend anyone - I live on the outskirts of blythe bridge. I'm a planning agent - pm me with your details and i can come out and have a look. If any body else wants any plans drawn up and submitted - i'm your man!! ;D |
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Post by troj on Jun 10, 2008 15:13:07 GMT
stokecitytalke - you have mail!
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Post by onemanbang on Jun 10, 2008 15:16:19 GMT
Cheers Jaybee/ Neutron Jaybee can you recommend anyone - I live on the outskirts of blythe bridge. I'm a planning agent - pm me with your details and i can come out and have a look. If any body else wants any plans drawn up and submitted - i'm your man!! ;D arghhh dont take prospects of me talke Im a poor part-time student architect, I need money in my coffers never mind yours!!?! Any planning/building applications people pm me im more than willing to help out at a fee of course |
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 10, 2008 15:39:35 GMT
I'm a planning agent - pm me with your details and i can come out and have a look. If any body else wants any plans drawn up and submitted - i'm your man!! ;D arghhh dont take prospects of me talke Im a poor part-time student architect, I need money in my coffers never mind yours!!?! Any planning/building applications people pm me im more than willing to help out at a fee of course one man, shouldn't you be studying or something!! ;D |
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Post by onemanbang on Jun 10, 2008 15:50:31 GMT
no talke ive currently finished uni however i should be busy doing a building regulations application at work but lets just say its that 5 o'clock feeling |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2008 15:55:50 GMT
Bollocks to you both.
I work for a GP firm of Chartered Surveyors and we have building surveyors, planners, agents etc... etc....
Come to the one stop shop that's what I say! ;D
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Post by daverichards on Jun 11, 2008 6:09:31 GMT
I'll email this to my best mate, he's a top notch planning expert
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Post by onemanbang on Jun 11, 2008 12:51:44 GMT
Bollocks to you both. I work for a GP firm of Chartered Surveyors and we have building surveyors, planners, agents etc... etc.... Come to the one stop shop that's what I say! ;D ahhh think before you speak loony one the company i work with are also surveyors, planners, agents, architects, site supervisers & interior designers so as the famous words go....... i just pissed on your fire |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2008 14:36:59 GMT
Hulme Upwright....agents????
What a load of bollocks...you haven't got one board up in the whole city!!!
You don't seem to do many rent reviews or lease renewals either.
I don't see you managing many estates either....or undertaking rating assesssment work...or selling investment portfolios...or negotiating sale and leaseback deals??
Like I said come to the one stop shop ;D
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They're all up for a tickle. 
