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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 2, 2020 17:17:41 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jun 2, 2020 17:19:58 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 2, 2020 17:25:29 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest. I would hope that the majority of football clubs would respond in that way |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 17:26:45 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest. Fucking hell I wish “virtue signalling” could be taken out of the English language. Everything is “virtue signalling” these days...... |
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Post by Stokiedokie on Jun 2, 2020 21:14:01 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest. 'Virtue signalling' AKA calling out tossers when they overstep the mark. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 2, 2020 21:45:01 GMT
So earlier we had ultra-rich Hollywood celeb Seth Rogen telling his pleb fans to “fuck off” left right and centre for commenting “all lives matter” in response to his BLM post. Now we have a high-profile multimillion pound football club publicly telling a random bloke who’s probably been a fan all his life “he won’t be missed” - not for doing anything criminal or violent, not for expressing racism or anything remotely close - but for responding that an official club tweet was “pathetic”.
This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 21:53:45 GMT
So earlier we had ultra-rich Hollywood celeb Seth Rogen telling his pleb fans to “fuck off” left right and centre for commenting “all lives matter” in response to his BLM post. Now we have a high-profile multimillion pound football club publicly telling a random bloke who’s probably been a fan all his life “he won’t be missed” - not for doing anything criminal or violent, not for expressing racism or anything remotely close - but for responding that an official club tweet was “pathetic”. This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant. You missed the bit where he asked them to cancel his season ticket out...... |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 2, 2020 22:05:34 GMT
So earlier we had ultra-rich Hollywood celeb Seth Rogen telling his pleb fans to “fuck off” left right and centre for commenting “all lives matter” in response to his BLM post. Now we have a high-profile multimillion pound football club publicly telling a random bloke who’s probably been a fan all his life “he won’t be missed” - not for doing anything criminal or violent, not for expressing racism or anything remotely close - but for responding that an official club tweet was “pathetic”. This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant. You missed the bit where he asked them to cancel his season ticket out...... Add it in, don’t know why you think that would make any difference |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 22:22:49 GMT
You missed the bit where he asked them to cancel his season ticket out...... Add it in, don’t know why you think that would make any difference The club - one of the pioneers of its time with Regis, Batson and Cunningham - literally tweeted a "together we are stronger" message in solidarity, which triggered the response "Pathetic. Cancel my season ticket". They obliged. And somehow your conclusion is "This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant"? Seems a bit over the top....... |
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Post by BristolMick on Jun 2, 2020 22:39:29 GMT
Add it in, don’t know why you think that would make any difference The club - one of the pioneers of its time with Regis, Batson and Cunningham - literally tweeted a "together we are stronger" message in solidarity, which triggered the response "Pathetic. Cancel my season ticket". They obliged. And somehow your conclusion is "This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant"? Seems a bit over the top....... A bit over the top? You’re being too reasonable mate. BM |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 2, 2020 22:54:10 GMT
Add it in, don’t know why you think that would make any difference The club - one of the pioneers of its time with Regis, Batson and Cunningham - literally tweeted a "together we are stronger" message in solidarity, which triggered the response "Pathetic. Cancel my season ticket". They obliged. And somehow your conclusion is "This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant"? Seems a bit over the top....... Minor in the grand scheme of things but symptomatic of a trend. Since when has it been club corporate policy to say “you won’t be missed” to a departing customer? Do baggies fans now have to be in full agreement with everything the club tweets or participates in to be welcome as a supporter? Absolutely no meaning, intention or reason can be attributed to the words “pathetic, cancel my season ticket”, but WBA have basically decided he’s a racist and thrown him to the twitter/press wolves. I guess if you tweet anything you can expect a public shaming at some point these days, I just feel distinctly uneasy about a big corporate entities participating in it - however unsavoury this guy’s views *might* be. tbh I was kind of thinking this was on the EE board, I wish I hadn’t posted anything here but as you quoted me I’ll leave it up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 23:32:34 GMT
The club - one of the pioneers of its time with Regis, Batson and Cunningham - literally tweeted a "together we are stronger" message in solidarity, which triggered the response "Pathetic. Cancel my season ticket". They obliged. And somehow your conclusion is "This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant"? Seems a bit over the top....... Minor in the grand scheme of things but symptomatic of a trend. Since when has it been club corporate policy to say “you won’t be missed” to a departing customer? Do baggies fans now have to be in full agreement with everything the club tweets or participates in to be welcome as a supporter? Absolutely no meaning, intention or reason can be attributed to the words “pathetic, cancel my season ticket”, but WBA have basically decided he’s a racist and thrown him to the twitter/press wolves. I guess if you tweet anything you can expect a public shaming at some point these days, I just feel distinctly uneasy about a big corporate entities participating in it - however unsavoury this guy’s views *might* be. tbh I was kind of thinking this was on the EE board, I wish I hadn’t posted anything here but as you quoted me I’ll leave it up. "Absolutely no meaning, intention or reason can be attributed to the words “pathetic, cancel my season ticket”. Of course it can. He thinks it's pathetic that WBA are demonstrating support of an extremely worth cause - I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that he's not in favour of their message. And if that's the case, then what's his reasoning? There are racists everywhere, there's a good chance he may be one of them. Which makes him a massive shithouse, and WBA are better off without his ilk. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 3, 2020 0:18:21 GMT
Minor in the grand scheme of things but symptomatic of a trend. Since when has it been club corporate policy to say “you won’t be missed” to a departing customer? Do baggies fans now have to be in full agreement with everything the club tweets or participates in to be welcome as a supporter? Absolutely no meaning, intention or reason can be attributed to the words “pathetic, cancel my season ticket”, but WBA have basically decided he’s a racist and thrown him to the twitter/press wolves. I guess if you tweet anything you can expect a public shaming at some point these days, I just feel distinctly uneasy about a big corporate entities participating in it - however unsavoury this guy’s views *might* be. tbh I was kind of thinking this was on the EE board, I wish I hadn’t posted anything here but as you quoted me I’ll leave it up. "Absolutely no meaning, intention or reason can be attributed to the words “pathetic, cancel my season ticket”. Of course it can. He thinks it's pathetic that WBA are demonstrating support of an extremely worth cause - I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that he's not in favour of their message. And if that's the case, then what's his reasoning? There are racists everywhere, there's a good chance he may be one of them. Which makes him a massive shithouse, and WBA are better off without his ilk. Well, just by the way, the #blackouttuesday thing has been heavily criticised by many leading BLM activists for slowing down the movement and obscuring the message. Might somebody particularly passionate about that not think WBA's tweet was "pathetic"? |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 3, 2020 21:01:16 GMT
So earlier we had ultra-rich Hollywood celeb Seth Rogen telling his pleb fans to “fuck off” left right and centre for commenting “all lives matter” in response to his BLM post. Now we have a high-profile multimillion pound football club publicly telling a random bloke who’s probably been a fan all his life “he won’t be missed” - not for doing anything criminal or violent, not for expressing racism or anything remotely close - but for responding that an official club tweet was “pathetic”. This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant. It's a good point. It doesn't mean the fan is racist. Education would be better - perhaps engaging with this fan rather than closing him off. Many people who aren't black see it as a threat or something and/or suddenly feel marginalised themselves. There is a me me me selfish culture these days, but it's not necessarily that. Of course all lives matter, but the reason this is kicking off is because black people have, in a general comparison to white folks, been oppressed for hundreds of years. Things are changing for the better, but far far too slowly. Maybe if someone tried to explain that (in a more articulate way than me) to people like this West Brom fan, it'd help them change their views. It's not easy, and mistakes will be made, but talking about it is better than not. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Jun 3, 2020 21:05:58 GMT
So earlier we had ultra-rich Hollywood celeb Seth Rogen telling his pleb fans to “fuck off” left right and centre for commenting “all lives matter” in response to his BLM post. Now we have a high-profile multimillion pound football club publicly telling a random bloke who’s probably been a fan all his life “he won’t be missed” - not for doing anything criminal or violent, not for expressing racism or anything remotely close - but for responding that an official club tweet was “pathetic”. This condescending thought-policing by the powerful and the monied over the masses is not going to take us anywhere pleasant. It's a good point. It doesn't mean the fan is racist. Education would be better - perhaps engaging with this fan rather than closing him off. Many people who aren't black see it as a threat or something and/or suddenly feel marginalised themselves. There is a me me me selfish culture these days, but it's not necessarily that. Of course all lives matter, but the reason this is kicking off is because black people have, in a general comparison to white folks, been oppressed for hundreds of years. Things are changing for the better, but far far too slowly. Maybe if someone tried to explain that (in a more articulate way than me) to people like this West Brom fan, it'd help them change their views. It's not easy, and mistakes will be made, but talking about it is better than not. This |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 4, 2020 14:11:51 GMT
I feel like we've been trying to educate people for a long time and these terrible things happen. This time there is a difference and the WBA Tweet is an example of it where people/organisations are calling out bad behaviour. Maybe these firm words will cause the next generation to think about this and see examples of people proactively stopping bad behaviour.
I think the comments of Seth Rogan are useful. It's making everyone understand that everyone needs to get behind this, you either agree that there are racial inequalities and support the removal of these or you don't.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 4, 2020 15:25:40 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest. You could also see it as an opportunity to learn something about history and the reality of this world for very many people. Just a thought. 'Pathetic, cancel my season ticket" is not even remotely ambiguous. The guy might think that the club's approach in supporting anti-racism is not the most effective approach, then why not use the platform to explain why instead of creating the impression that he is not supportive of anti-racism? I don't really have any sympathy for him whatsoever. If he's supportive of anti-racism and just made a hasty mistake, well at least he might of learned the virtue of thinking before tweeting in future. If he is not supportive of anti-racism then he is best out. Football is an anti-racism sport and recent events have shown it needs to be re-emphasised but it clearly isn't getting through. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 4, 2020 15:54:45 GMT
Wba were great in the 3 degrees era, but all this with the clubs, celebs etc is all virtue signalling, bandwagon brigade at its finest. The suggestion of virtue signalling is that they're doing something for their own game, to make themselves look good. If you look at the Seth Rogan and WBA example they're doing it against their own fans which will have a cost to them. Let me sign up here to be on a bandwagon that looks for equality. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 4, 2020 16:16:27 GMT
Virtue signalling my arse.
If people want to act the attention seeking prick on social media I’m all for decent people fighting fire with fire.
Fair play WBA.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 4, 2020 16:21:22 GMT
I feel like we've been trying to educate people for a long time and these terrible things happen. This time there is a difference and the WBA Tweet is an example of it where people/organisations are calling out bad behaviour. Maybe these firm words will cause the next generation to think about this and see examples of people proactively stopping bad behaviour. I think the comments of Seth Rogan are useful. It's making everyone understand that everyone needs to get behind this, you either agree that there are racial inequalities and support the removal of these or you don't. What bad behaviour |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 4, 2020 16:27:20 GMT
I feel like we've been trying to educate people for a long time and these terrible things happen. This time there is a difference and the WBA Tweet is an example of it where people/organisations are calling out bad behaviour. Maybe these firm words will cause the next generation to think about this and see examples of people proactively stopping bad behaviour. I think the comments of Seth Rogan are useful. It's making everyone understand that everyone needs to get behind this, you either agree that there are racial inequalities and support the removal of these or you don't. What bad behaviour Proactively and publicly going against a message of equality. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 5, 2020 10:13:34 GMT
I think the comments of Seth Rogan are useful. It's making everyone understand that everyone needs to get behind this, you either agree that there are racial inequalities and support the removal of these or you don't. How is it making everyone understand? It's nasty. It sounds like the sort of thing Trump does - he's right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't say "Yes, I agree Oh Great One," he sacks you. Seth Rogen could just as well be lambasting people who disagree with the spirit of black lives matter. Would these sort of responses be useful then? It's more likely to build bigger barriers between people. What lovely responses: Attachment DeletedAnd I haven't seen much of his stuff so I could be wrong, but is a guy who seems to have made his career from racist, sexist, rape and homophobic jokes really the sort of person people should listen to on such important matters? I suppose at least his followers would have known what they were getting themselves into. |
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Post by thunderduck on Jun 5, 2020 11:33:22 GMT
I think the comments of Seth Rogan are useful. It's making everyone understand that everyone needs to get behind this, you either agree that there are racial inequalities and support the removal of these or you don't. How is it making everyone understand? It's nasty. It sounds like the sort of thing Trump does - he's right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't say "Yes, I agree Oh Great One," he sacks you. Seth Rogen could just as well be lambasting people who disagree with the spirit of black lives matter. Would these sort of responses be useful then? It's more likely to build bigger barriers between people. What lovely responses: And I haven't seen much of his stuff so I could be wrong, but is a guy who seems to have made his career from racist, sexist, rape and homophobic jokes really the sort of person people should listen to on such important matters? I suppose at least his followers would have known what they were getting themselves into. That's a bit of a false equivalency, Trump spreading actual lies and (mostly) thinly-coded bigotry and Seth Rogan telling people who say All Lives Matter to fuck off aren't expressing the same thing.
The anger towards people saying All Lives Matter is the expression of a real frustration towards the racial situation in America being overlooked, disregarded, and misunderstood on all levels of society and at this point in history, there's a real feeling that this message has been pushed for long enough that not understanding it is willful ignorance. Hence telling people to fuck off, people have tried communicating amicably and being polite about it and it's produced exactly fuck all except more derision and made no dent in the ignorance, so people are pissed off. If he was doing that to people who disagree with black lives matter that would be very useful to the racists but he's not, he's trying to say something against those that go out of their way to talk down to people trying to be anti-racist. In a sense these barriers have been built by people shutting their ears to racial activists and decades of systemic nastiness, and the time for being nice, in America at least, is over.
And yeah his stuff is pretty dodgy by today's standards, but he's done a fair amount to redress the balance with some of his recent films (Blockers is a good one), and his past doesn't discount the legitimacy of his current stances if he's fighting the good fight.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 5, 2020 12:21:38 GMT
How is it making everyone understand? It's nasty. It sounds like the sort of thing Trump does - he's right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't say "Yes, I agree Oh Great One," he sacks you. Seth Rogen could just as well be lambasting people who disagree with the spirit of black lives matter. Would these sort of responses be useful then? It's more likely to build bigger barriers between people. What lovely responses: And I haven't seen much of his stuff so I could be wrong, but is a guy who seems to have made his career from racist, sexist, rape and homophobic jokes really the sort of person people should listen to on such important matters? I suppose at least his followers would have known what they were getting themselves into. That's a bit of a false equivalency, Trump spreading actual lies and (mostly) thinly-coded bigotry and Seth Rogan telling people who say All Lives Matter to fuck off aren't expressing the same thing.
The anger towards people saying All Lives Matter is the expression of a real frustration towards the racial situation in America being overlooked, disregarded, and misunderstood on all levels of society and at this point in history, there's a real feeling that this message has been pushed for long enough that not understanding it is willful ignorance. Hence telling people to fuck off, people have tried communicating amicably and being polite about it and it's produced exactly fuck all except more derision and made no dent in the ignorance, so people are pissed off. If he was doing that to people who disagree with black lives matter that would be very useful to the racists but he's not, he's trying to say something against those that go out of their way to talk down to people trying to be anti-racist. In a sense these barriers have been built by people shutting their ears to racial activists and decades of systemic nastiness, and the time for being nice, in America at least, is over.
And yeah his stuff is pretty dodgy by today's standards, but he's done a fair amount to redress the balance with some of his recent films (Blockers is a good one), and his past doesn't discount the legitimacy of his current stances if he's fighting the good fight.
I wasn't referring to Trump spreading lies and his bigotry in my example though. "Black Lives Matter" has suddenly blown up bigger than it ever has before. Many people are encountering it for the first time. So from what you're saying, everyone posting "all lives matter" or something negative in response should be treated as an ignorant troll and/or racist? Commenter to Seth Rogen's post, who from this I don't think was disagreeing with "black lives matter": "All life's matter" Rogen's reply: "eat shit and fuck you." Why not just a copy and paste reply if he's going to such effort of multiple unique responses like that? A very brief "Of course all lives matter but..." with a link to something that might just help educate someone and help make life better for everyone? |
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Post by thunderduck on Jun 5, 2020 13:11:03 GMT
That's a bit of a false equivalency, Trump spreading actual lies and (mostly) thinly-coded bigotry and Seth Rogan telling people who say All Lives Matter to fuck off aren't expressing the same thing.
The anger towards people saying All Lives Matter is the expression of a real frustration towards the racial situation in America being overlooked, disregarded, and misunderstood on all levels of society and at this point in history, there's a real feeling that this message has been pushed for long enough that not understanding it is willful ignorance. Hence telling people to fuck off, people have tried communicating amicably and being polite about it and it's produced exactly fuck all except more derision and made no dent in the ignorance, so people are pissed off. If he was doing that to people who disagree with black lives matter that would be very useful to the racists but he's not, he's trying to say something against those that go out of their way to talk down to people trying to be anti-racist. In a sense these barriers have been built by people shutting their ears to racial activists and decades of systemic nastiness, and the time for being nice, in America at least, is over.
And yeah his stuff is pretty dodgy by today's standards, but he's done a fair amount to redress the balance with some of his recent films (Blockers is a good one), and his past doesn't discount the legitimacy of his current stances if he's fighting the good fight.
I wasn't referring to Trump spreading lies and his bigotry in my example though. "Black Lives Matter" has suddenly blown up bigger than it ever has before. Many people are encountering it for the first time. So from what you're saying, everyone posting "all lives matter" or something negative in response should be treated as an ignorant troll and/or racist? Commenter to Seth Rogen's post, who from this I don't think was disagreeing with "black lives matter": "All life's matter" Rogen's reply: "eat shit and fuck you." Why not just a copy and paste reply if he's going to such effort of multiple unique responses like that? A very brief "Of course all lives matter but..." with a link to something that might just help educate someone and help make life better for everyone? But by linking Trump to Rogan you insinuated that the actions of the two are comparable, which they could seem at first glance but only without understanding the wider context.
The thing about all lives matter and black lives matter is that people mostly know what they mean in America, and that conversation is being had a lot. If someone's commenting 'all life's matter' it's because they think that what those words represent for them is more important than what BLM is trying to say. So they're either new to it and misunderstand BLM, in which case why bother challenging someone when you're not in adequate possession of the facts, or they know what's going and are being directly provocative. They're not necessarily racists or trolls, but if not it shows a lack of awareness mixed with the confidence to post in a public forum that the conversation really doesn't need right now. People are angry and it's up to people who don't understand why to learn why of their own accord and not rely on public figures to hold their hands through it. And he probably did post stuff up there anyway linking to resources, like loads on social media have been doing this week
And ultimately, the guy's upset and frustrated with the bullshit, so he's taking it out on the bullshit. It's a form of catharsis really
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2020 13:57:41 GMT
Saying all life’s matter completely misses the point and is really stupid.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 5, 2020 14:07:48 GMT
Saying all life’s matter completely misses the point and is really stupid. It’s like trying to help an endangered species, and then people saying woah, hang on a minute. ALL species matter. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 5, 2020 15:15:54 GMT
How is it making everyone understand? It's nasty. It sounds like the sort of thing Trump does - he's right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't say "Yes, I agree Oh Great One," he sacks you. Seth Rogen could just as well be lambasting people who disagree with the spirit of black lives matter. Would these sort of responses be useful then? It's more likely to build bigger barriers between people. What lovely responses: And I haven't seen much of his stuff so I could be wrong, but is a guy who seems to have made his career from racist, sexist, rape and homophobic jokes really the sort of person people should listen to on such important matters? I suppose at least his followers would have known what they were getting themselves into. I believe it’s useful because this issue has been going on for 100s of years. This recent change is proactively calling people on their beliefs, their beliefs being if you’re quoting all lives matter you don’t understand the problem or you’re not trying to solve it. He’s trying something different at a cost to him to try and help solve the problem, I tip my cap to him. He could do it in a kinder manner, I would agree. I’m happy with entertainers having two persona’s and understand the difference between the two. I would find the world a little bland if only serious performers were allowed to give opinions in the real world and get why a comedian would play both sides of the fence as long as in the real world they’re not racist. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 5, 2020 15:31:48 GMT
How is it making everyone understand? It's nasty. It sounds like the sort of thing Trump does - he's right and everyone else is wrong. If you don't say "Yes, I agree Oh Great One," he sacks you. Seth Rogen could just as well be lambasting people who disagree with the spirit of black lives matter. Would these sort of responses be useful then? It's more likely to build bigger barriers between people. What lovely responses: And I haven't seen much of his stuff so I could be wrong, but is a guy who seems to have made his career from racist, sexist, rape and homophobic jokes really the sort of person people should listen to on such important matters? I suppose at least his followers would have known what they were getting themselves into. That's a bit of a false equivalency, Trump spreading actual lies and (mostly) thinly-coded bigotry and Seth Rogan telling people who say All Lives Matter to fuck off aren't expressing the same thing.
The anger towards people saying All Lives Matter is the expression of a real frustration towards the racial situation in America being overlooked, disregarded, and misunderstood on all levels of society and at this point in history, there's a real feeling that this message has been pushed for long enough that not understanding it is willful ignorance. Hence telling people to fuck off, people have tried communicating amicably and being polite about it and it's produced exactly fuck all except more derision and made no dent in the ignorance, so people are pissed off. If he was doing that to people who disagree with black lives matter that would be very useful to the racists but he's not, he's trying to say something against those that go out of their way to talk down to people trying to be anti-racist. In a sense these barriers have been built by people shutting their ears to racial activists and decades of systemic nastiness, and the time for being nice, in America at least, is over.
And yeah his stuff is pretty dodgy by today's standards, but he's done a fair amount to redress the balance with some of his recent films (Blockers is a good one), and his past doesn't discount the legitimacy of his current stances if he's fighting the good fight.
Tying yourself in knots. It's a complete double standard. The left are all over the place on this and ultimately it will worsen the problem. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 5, 2020 15:50:29 GMT
That's a bit of a false equivalency, Trump spreading actual lies and (mostly) thinly-coded bigotry and Seth Rogan telling people who say All Lives Matter to fuck off aren't expressing the same thing.
The anger towards people saying All Lives Matter is the expression of a real frustration towards the racial situation in America being overlooked, disregarded, and misunderstood on all levels of society and at this point in history, there's a real feeling that this message has been pushed for long enough that not understanding it is willful ignorance. Hence telling people to fuck off, people have tried communicating amicably and being polite about it and it's produced exactly fuck all except more derision and made no dent in the ignorance, so people are pissed off. If he was doing that to people who disagree with black lives matter that would be very useful to the racists but he's not, he's trying to say something against those that go out of their way to talk down to people trying to be anti-racist. In a sense these barriers have been built by people shutting their ears to racial activists and decades of systemic nastiness, and the time for being nice, in America at least, is over.
And yeah his stuff is pretty dodgy by today's standards, but he's done a fair amount to redress the balance with some of his recent films (Blockers is a good one), and his past doesn't discount the legitimacy of his current stances if he's fighting the good fight.
Tying yourself in knots. It's a complete double standard. The left are all over the place on this and ultimately it will worsen the problem. People calling out ignorance to matters of racial equality are going to worsen the problem? Wow. We really are through the looking glass, aren't we?  |
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