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Post by raythesailor on May 10, 2020 17:54:21 GMT
This evening on ITV news towards the end of the broadcast the Newsreader stated. “We apologise that last night’s bulletin we reported overcrowding in ???? Park in Central London. The footage shown was filmed prior to the Corona Lockdown”
Total time 12.5 seconds. What disgusting journalism and a example of how the media manipulate and influence public opinion.
They had obviously received complaints for them to make this apology. But were unable and unwilling to eat humble pie and reduced this lame statement to a minimum.
There may or may not have been overcrowding, we will never know as we can not believe what we are being fed anymore by these low standard hacks who shame the already tarred reputation of journalism.
They should be ashamed of their selves.
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Post by bathstoke on May 10, 2020 18:54:50 GMT
I’ve seen Katie Hopkins wandering around desolate London, like something from 28days...
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Post by followyoudown on May 10, 2020 19:34:40 GMT
This evening on ITV news towards the end of the broadcast the Newsreader stated. “We apologise that last night’s bulletin we reported overcrowding in ???? Park in Central London. The footage shown was filmed prior to the Corona Lockdown” Total time 12.5 seconds. What disgusting journalism and a example of how the media manipulate and influence public opinion. They had obviously received complaints for them to make this apology. But we’re unable to eat humble pie and reduced this lame statement to a minimum. There may or may not have been overcrowding, we will never know as we can not believe what we are being fed anymore by these low standard hacks. They should be ashamed of their selves. Just a major news channel taking stories from a randoms twitter who was taking the piss mindboggling. |
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Post by bathstoke on May 10, 2020 19:38:08 GMT
God bless the BBC
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Post by PotterLog on May 10, 2020 21:34:14 GMT
I noticed this rather illuminating little anecdote about the press from Brendan O’Neill the other day. The Independent, ffs. ******************************* So, here's a story for our times.... I hope you will take the time to read it. A couple of weeks ago, the Independent published a comment piece that referred to me as part of a "trend towards (far) right-wing politics". Yada yada. This is par for the course in our shallow times. Terms like "far right" and "fascist" have been completely stripped of their meaning and are now used merely as insults against anyone who deviates from liberal-elite thinking. Nonetheless, I thought I'd push back for once. So I wrote to the Independent's comment editor and complaints manager and said it is untrue that I am far-right, it is a hurtful lie, and they should publish a correction. What happened next was extraordinary. In their first reply to me, they denied that the piece referred to me as far-right. Clearly I am dumb, because, as they explained, the piece was actually making a "more subtle point about a trend of discourse... [with] which you are associated... that is moving 'towards' (far) right-wing politics". Ah! So it wasn't calling me a fascist... it was just saying there is a trend of discourse that I am associated with that is moving towards fascism. Pure word soup. I asked if they really expected me to buy this crap. In response they said "[we are] discussing your complaint further and will get back to you". Five days later they did, and things started to get really bizarre. In their second reply, they seemed to have decided that the piece was, after all, referring to me as part of the far-right and they implied that it was correct to do so because there is evidence that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". Wow. What is this evidence? Brace yourselves. "[Y]ou have supported... the Brexit Party", they said. Yes, that's right: a supposedly serious newspaper thinks that if you support the Brexit Party you are tantamount to a fascist. The five million people who voted for it, the working classes who cheered it on -- fascists, all of you. Of course they couldn't give me a single example of a far-right policy proposed by the Brexit Party. That's because the Brexit Party only had one policy -- leaving the EU. If wanting to leave the EU makes one "part of a trend of discourse that is moving towards far-right politics" blah blah blah, someone really should have told Tony Benn. Days passed between the Independent's increasingly odd emails. No doubt they were deploying interns to search for something -- anything -- that might prove that I have far-right sympathies. They found something eventually. The smoking gun. The evidence. I was informed that they had discovered proof that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". What was it? An article I wrote for spiked in August 2017 titled 'Why Nazis must have freedom of speech'. "It is well documented that you have made a case for Nazis and the far right to be granted free speech" and this confirms that you are part of "the legitimisation of and trend towards far-right politics", they told me. I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. I could not believe that something so fucking stupid (excuse my language) was being said by someone who works at a newspaper. I asked if they had bothered to read my article on Nazis and free speech. Because if they had they would have spotted that it is an ANTI-Nazi article; that it refers to the far right as "unhinged”, “racist” and “hateful" and condemns their "racialised self-pity" and "conspiracy-theory thinking"; that it says Nazis must have free speech precisely so that we can know their arguments and get better at exposing and defeating them. Clearly they hadn't bothered to read it. They just saw the headline and thought: "Ah, he likes Nazis." The intellectual laziness of this is staggering. Their use of this pro-freedom, anti-Nazi article as proof that I support far-right speech and campaigners also raised a more serious question: do people at the Independent really think that supporting someone's right to free speech means supporting what they *say* with their free speech? If they do, then they have seriously lost their way as a liberal newspaper, because it is a key part of the liberal outlook that you should support freedom even for those you disagree with. So, with my patience wearing thin at this point, I pointed out to them that my belief that even Nazis should enjoy freedom of speech was actually shaped by Jewish activists, in particular people like Ira Glasser and Aryeh Neier of the American Civil Liberties Union. These two heroes of freedom defended the right of American Nazis to speak and to march in public. Neier even wrote a book about it: Defending My Enemy. I asked the person at the Independent if Neier, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany who devoted his life in America to defending civil liberties, was also a fascist? Did his defence of free speech for fascists mean that he supported fascist ideas? They gave no reply to this question. Nothing. Just silence in the face of the simplest of philosophical questions. More days passed. Clearly they were having difficulty finding anything that shows I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". So I thought I would assist with their research. I sent them some of my old articles, on why I oppose all forms of racial politics, why I think white nationalism is grotesque, why I am worried about the return of eugenicist thinking in certain circles, and so on. I also sent them an essay I wrote on the evils of fascism. Will you now add a correction to the article you published? Their response was as clear as it was shocking: no. So the Independent will imply that you are far-right on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, and when you provide evidence to the contrary they will not back down. That is not how a newspaper should behave. It is intellectually dishonest and immoral. Please consider sharing this. I actually think it's important that people know how systematically the slur of "far right" is used to demonise people who simply hold views that the chattering classes disapprove of. Dissenting writers, people who support the Brexit Party, Jews who support free speech, those of you who detest the far right but still think they should have the freedom to express themselves... you are all fascists. /?d=n ******************************* |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 10, 2020 21:48:58 GMT
I noticed this rather illuminating little anecdote about the press from Brendan O’Neill the other day. The Independent, ffs. ******************************* So, here's a story for our times.... I hope you will take the time to read it. A couple of weeks ago, the Independent published a comment piece that referred to me as part of a "trend towards (far) right-wing politics". Yada yada. This is par for the course in our shallow times. Terms like "far right" and "fascist" have been completely stripped of their meaning and are now used merely as insults against anyone who deviates from liberal-elite thinking. Nonetheless, I thought I'd push back for once. So I wrote to the Independent's comment editor and complaints manager and said it is untrue that I am far-right, it is a hurtful lie, and they should publish a correction. What happened next was extraordinary. In their first reply to me, they denied that the piece referred to me as far-right. Clearly I am dumb, because, as they explained, the piece was actually making a "more subtle point about a trend of discourse... [with] which you are associated... that is moving 'towards' (far) right-wing politics". Ah! So it wasn't calling me a fascist... it was just saying there is a trend of discourse that I am associated with that is moving towards fascism. Pure word soup. I asked if they really expected me to buy this crap. In response they said "[we are] discussing your complaint further and will get back to you". Five days later they did, and things started to get really bizarre. In their second reply, they seemed to have decided that the piece was, after all, referring to me as part of the far-right and they implied that it was correct to do so because there is evidence that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". Wow. What is this evidence? Brace yourselves. "[Y]ou have supported... the Brexit Party", they said. Yes, that's right: a supposedly serious newspaper thinks that if you support the Brexit Party you are tantamount to a fascist. The five million people who voted for it, the working classes who cheered it on -- fascists, all of you. Of course they couldn't give me a single example of a far-right policy proposed by the Brexit Party. That's because the Brexit Party only had one policy -- leaving the EU. If wanting to leave the EU makes one "part of a trend of discourse that is moving towards far-right politics" blah blah blah, someone really should have told Tony Benn. Days passed between the Independent's increasingly odd emails. No doubt they were deploying interns to search for something -- anything -- that might prove that I have far-right sympathies. They found something eventually. The smoking gun. The evidence. I was informed that they had discovered proof that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". What was it? An article I wrote for spiked in August 2017 titled 'Why Nazis must have freedom of speech'. "It is well documented that you have made a case for Nazis and the far right to be granted free speech" and this confirms that you are part of "the legitimisation of and trend towards far-right politics", they told me. I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. I could not believe that something so fucking stupid (excuse my language) was being said by someone who works at a newspaper. I asked if they had bothered to read my article on Nazis and free speech. Because if they had they would have spotted that it is an ANTI-Nazi article; that it refers to the far right as "unhinged”, “racist” and “hateful" and condemns their "racialised self-pity" and "conspiracy-theory thinking"; that it says Nazis must have free speech precisely so that we can know their arguments and get better at exposing and defeating them. Clearly they hadn't bothered to read it. They just saw the headline and thought: "Ah, he likes Nazis." The intellectual laziness of this is staggering. Their use of this pro-freedom, anti-Nazi article as proof that I support far-right speech and campaigners also raised a more serious question: do people at the Independent really think that supporting someone's right to free speech means supporting what they *say* with their free speech? If they do, then they have seriously lost their way as a liberal newspaper, because it is a key part of the liberal outlook that you should support freedom even for those you disagree with. So, with my patience wearing thin at this point, I pointed out to them that my belief that even Nazis should enjoy freedom of speech was actually shaped by Jewish activists, in particular people like Ira Glasser and Aryeh Neier of the American Civil Liberties Union. These two heroes of freedom defended the right of American Nazis to speak and to march in public. Neier even wrote a book about it: Defending My Enemy. I asked the person at the Independent if Neier, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany who devoted his life in America to defending civil liberties, was also a fascist? Did his defence of free speech for fascists mean that he supported fascist ideas? They gave no reply to this question. Nothing. Just silence in the face of the simplest of philosophical questions. More days passed. Clearly they were having difficulty finding anything that shows I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". So I thought I would assist with their research. I sent them some of my old articles, on why I oppose all forms of racial politics, why I think white nationalism is grotesque, why I am worried about the return of eugenicist thinking in certain circles, and so on. I also sent them an essay I wrote on the evils of fascism. Will you now add a correction to the article you published? Their response was as clear as it was shocking: no. So the Independent will imply that you are far-right on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, and when you provide evidence to the contrary they will not back down. That is not how a newspaper should behave. It is intellectually dishonest and immoral. Please consider sharing this. I actually think it's important that people know how systematically the slur of "far right" is used to demonise people who simply hold views that the chattering classes disapprove of. Dissenting writers, people who support the Brexit Party, Jews who support free speech, those of you who detest the far right but still think they should have the freedom to express themselves... you are all fascists. /?d=n ******************************* Says it all about where we are today Potter. |
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Post by starkiller on May 10, 2020 21:57:52 GMT
He speaks sense. This lockdown will be catastrophic for this country.
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Post by songthrush01 on May 10, 2020 22:12:11 GMT
i like brendan.listen to him a lot.
there is one on you tube(talk radio(.
how we have made little hitlers,and i can vouch for that,
as there is one living next door to my mother.
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Post by mrcoke on May 10, 2020 22:13:48 GMT
I haven't bought a newspaper since I started self isolating.
I think I won't ever buy one again.
The whole of the media are corrupt, pushing their own brand of politics. There is no genuine even handed, unbiased journalism any more.
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 8:23:27 GMT
I noticed this rather illuminating little anecdote about the press from Brendan O’Neill the other day. The Independent, ffs. ******************************* So, here's a story for our times.... I hope you will take the time to read it. A couple of weeks ago, the Independent published a comment piece that referred to me as part of a "trend towards (far) right-wing politics". Yada yada. This is par for the course in our shallow times. Terms like "far right" and "fascist" have been completely stripped of their meaning and are now used merely as insults against anyone who deviates from liberal-elite thinking. Nonetheless, I thought I'd push back for once. So I wrote to the Independent's comment editor and complaints manager and said it is untrue that I am far-right, it is a hurtful lie, and they should publish a correction. What happened next was extraordinary. In their first reply to me, they denied that the piece referred to me as far-right. Clearly I am dumb, because, as they explained, the piece was actually making a "more subtle point about a trend of discourse... [with] which you are associated... that is moving 'towards' (far) right-wing politics". Ah! So it wasn't calling me a fascist... it was just saying there is a trend of discourse that I am associated with that is moving towards fascism. Pure word soup. I asked if they really expected me to buy this crap. In response they said "[we are] discussing your complaint further and will get back to you". Five days later they did, and things started to get really bizarre. In their second reply, they seemed to have decided that the piece was, after all, referring to me as part of the far-right and they implied that it was correct to do so because there is evidence that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". Wow. What is this evidence? Brace yourselves. "[Y]ou have supported... the Brexit Party", they said. Yes, that's right: a supposedly serious newspaper thinks that if you support the Brexit Party you are tantamount to a fascist. The five million people who voted for it, the working classes who cheered it on -- fascists, all of you. Of course they couldn't give me a single example of a far-right policy proposed by the Brexit Party. That's because the Brexit Party only had one policy -- leaving the EU. If wanting to leave the EU makes one "part of a trend of discourse that is moving towards far-right politics" blah blah blah, someone really should have told Tony Benn. Days passed between the Independent's increasingly odd emails. No doubt they were deploying interns to search for something -- anything -- that might prove that I have far-right sympathies. They found something eventually. The smoking gun. The evidence. I was informed that they had discovered proof that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". What was it? An article I wrote for spiked in August 2017 titled 'Why Nazis must have freedom of speech'. "It is well documented that you have made a case for Nazis and the far right to be granted free speech" and this confirms that you are part of "the legitimisation of and trend towards far-right politics", they told me. I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. I could not believe that something so fucking stupid (excuse my language) was being said by someone who works at a newspaper. I asked if they had bothered to read my article on Nazis and free speech. Because if they had they would have spotted that it is an ANTI-Nazi article; that it refers to the far right as "unhinged”, “racist” and “hateful" and condemns their "racialised self-pity" and "conspiracy-theory thinking"; that it says Nazis must have free speech precisely so that we can know their arguments and get better at exposing and defeating them. Clearly they hadn't bothered to read it. They just saw the headline and thought: "Ah, he likes Nazis." The intellectual laziness of this is staggering. Their use of this pro-freedom, anti-Nazi article as proof that I support far-right speech and campaigners also raised a more serious question: do people at the Independent really think that supporting someone's right to free speech means supporting what they *say* with their free speech? If they do, then they have seriously lost their way as a liberal newspaper, because it is a key part of the liberal outlook that you should support freedom even for those you disagree with. So, with my patience wearing thin at this point, I pointed out to them that my belief that even Nazis should enjoy freedom of speech was actually shaped by Jewish activists, in particular people like Ira Glasser and Aryeh Neier of the American Civil Liberties Union. These two heroes of freedom defended the right of American Nazis to speak and to march in public. Neier even wrote a book about it: Defending My Enemy. I asked the person at the Independent if Neier, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany who devoted his life in America to defending civil liberties, was also a fascist? Did his defence of free speech for fascists mean that he supported fascist ideas? They gave no reply to this question. Nothing. Just silence in the face of the simplest of philosophical questions. More days passed. Clearly they were having difficulty finding anything that shows I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". So I thought I would assist with their research. I sent them some of my old articles, on why I oppose all forms of racial politics, why I think white nationalism is grotesque, why I am worried about the return of eugenicist thinking in certain circles, and so on. I also sent them an essay I wrote on the evils of fascism. Will you now add a correction to the article you published? Their response was as clear as it was shocking: no. So the Independent will imply that you are far-right on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, and when you provide evidence to the contrary they will not back down. That is not how a newspaper should behave. It is intellectually dishonest and immoral. Please consider sharing this. I actually think it's important that people know how systematically the slur of "far right" is used to demonise people who simply hold views that the chattering classes disapprove of. Dissenting writers, people who support the Brexit Party, Jews who support free speech, those of you who detest the far right but still think they should have the freedom to express themselves... you are all fascists. /?d=n ******************************* He doesn’t help himself by being some sort of apologist for Boris... |
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Post by elystokie on May 11, 2020 9:11:23 GMT
I haven't bought a newspaper since I started self isolating. I think I won't ever buy one again. The whole of the media are corrupt, pushing their own brand of politics. There is no genuine even handed, unbiased journalism any more. The only one I've bought or read in years is the Sentinel and that only very rarely. I'd rather be uninformed for free than pay to be misinformed. |
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Post by crowey on May 11, 2020 9:50:45 GMT
.... you should try reading The Australian our “national newspaper”. They quite obviously now employ people who are illiterate
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 11, 2020 11:23:41 GMT
I’ve seen Katie Hopkins wandering around desolate London, like something from 28days... I live pretty central and considering the population density, lack of garden access etc, Londoners have observed the vague lockdown impressively imo. There have been so few cars people walking, jogging or cycling down the centre of the road to avoid clashing on the pavement is common.This weekend the parks obviously had more groups but people were still keeping their distance. The old bill were clearing people sitting on grass prior to this weekend but seem to have stopped. The birds and squirrels have been struggling for few so few people are leaving bits around the place. |
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Post by PotterLog on May 11, 2020 13:38:34 GMT
I noticed this rather illuminating little anecdote about the press from Brendan O’Neill the other day. The Independent, ffs. ******************************* So, here's a story for our times.... I hope you will take the time to read it. A couple of weeks ago, the Independent published a comment piece that referred to me as part of a "trend towards (far) right-wing politics". Yada yada. This is par for the course in our shallow times. Terms like "far right" and "fascist" have been completely stripped of their meaning and are now used merely as insults against anyone who deviates from liberal-elite thinking. Nonetheless, I thought I'd push back for once. So I wrote to the Independent's comment editor and complaints manager and said it is untrue that I am far-right, it is a hurtful lie, and they should publish a correction. What happened next was extraordinary. In their first reply to me, they denied that the piece referred to me as far-right. Clearly I am dumb, because, as they explained, the piece was actually making a "more subtle point about a trend of discourse... [with] which you are associated... that is moving 'towards' (far) right-wing politics". Ah! So it wasn't calling me a fascist... it was just saying there is a trend of discourse that I am associated with that is moving towards fascism. Pure word soup. I asked if they really expected me to buy this crap. In response they said "[we are] discussing your complaint further and will get back to you". Five days later they did, and things started to get really bizarre. In their second reply, they seemed to have decided that the piece was, after all, referring to me as part of the far-right and they implied that it was correct to do so because there is evidence that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". Wow. What is this evidence? Brace yourselves. "[Y]ou have supported... the Brexit Party", they said. Yes, that's right: a supposedly serious newspaper thinks that if you support the Brexit Party you are tantamount to a fascist. The five million people who voted for it, the working classes who cheered it on -- fascists, all of you. Of course they couldn't give me a single example of a far-right policy proposed by the Brexit Party. That's because the Brexit Party only had one policy -- leaving the EU. If wanting to leave the EU makes one "part of a trend of discourse that is moving towards far-right politics" blah blah blah, someone really should have told Tony Benn. Days passed between the Independent's increasingly odd emails. No doubt they were deploying interns to search for something -- anything -- that might prove that I have far-right sympathies. They found something eventually. The smoking gun. The evidence. I was informed that they had discovered proof that I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". What was it? An article I wrote for spiked in August 2017 titled 'Why Nazis must have freedom of speech'. "It is well documented that you have made a case for Nazis and the far right to be granted free speech" and this confirms that you are part of "the legitimisation of and trend towards far-right politics", they told me. I actually couldn't believe what I was reading. I could not believe that something so fucking stupid (excuse my language) was being said by someone who works at a newspaper. I asked if they had bothered to read my article on Nazis and free speech. Because if they had they would have spotted that it is an ANTI-Nazi article; that it refers to the far right as "unhinged”, “racist” and “hateful" and condemns their "racialised self-pity" and "conspiracy-theory thinking"; that it says Nazis must have free speech precisely so that we can know their arguments and get better at exposing and defeating them. Clearly they hadn't bothered to read it. They just saw the headline and thought: "Ah, he likes Nazis." The intellectual laziness of this is staggering. Their use of this pro-freedom, anti-Nazi article as proof that I support far-right speech and campaigners also raised a more serious question: do people at the Independent really think that supporting someone's right to free speech means supporting what they *say* with their free speech? If they do, then they have seriously lost their way as a liberal newspaper, because it is a key part of the liberal outlook that you should support freedom even for those you disagree with. So, with my patience wearing thin at this point, I pointed out to them that my belief that even Nazis should enjoy freedom of speech was actually shaped by Jewish activists, in particular people like Ira Glasser and Aryeh Neier of the American Civil Liberties Union. These two heroes of freedom defended the right of American Nazis to speak and to march in public. Neier even wrote a book about it: Defending My Enemy. I asked the person at the Independent if Neier, a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany who devoted his life in America to defending civil liberties, was also a fascist? Did his defence of free speech for fascists mean that he supported fascist ideas? They gave no reply to this question. Nothing. Just silence in the face of the simplest of philosophical questions. More days passed. Clearly they were having difficulty finding anything that shows I "support far-right speech, causes and campaigners". So I thought I would assist with their research. I sent them some of my old articles, on why I oppose all forms of racial politics, why I think white nationalism is grotesque, why I am worried about the return of eugenicist thinking in certain circles, and so on. I also sent them an essay I wrote on the evils of fascism. Will you now add a correction to the article you published? Their response was as clear as it was shocking: no. So the Independent will imply that you are far-right on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, and when you provide evidence to the contrary they will not back down. That is not how a newspaper should behave. It is intellectually dishonest and immoral. Please consider sharing this. I actually think it's important that people know how systematically the slur of "far right" is used to demonise people who simply hold views that the chattering classes disapprove of. Dissenting writers, people who support the Brexit Party, Jews who support free speech, those of you who detest the far right but still think they should have the freedom to express themselves... you are all fascists. /?d=n ******************************* He doesn’t help himself by being some sort of apologist for Boris... An "apologist" for a UK Prime Minister voted in on a landslide  |
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 13:47:45 GMT
He doesn’t help himself by being some sort of apologist for Boris... An "apologist" for a UK Prime Minister voted in on a landslide I think you’ll find the tune has changed... |
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Post by PotterLog on May 11, 2020 14:30:29 GMT
An "apologist" for a UK Prime Minister voted in on a landslide I think you’ll find the tune has changed... Indeed, he's even more popular now  |
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 17:06:18 GMT
I think you’ll find the tune has changed... Indeed, he's even more popular now Only in your your fanboy wet dreams💦 |
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Post by PotterLog on May 11, 2020 17:29:13 GMT
Indeed, he's even more popular now Only in your your fanboy wet dreams💦 What on earth are you talking about. 1) Not that it makes an ounce of difference but I'm not even a Boris supporter, let alone a "fanboy", but... 2) millions of people demonstrably are, his approval ratings rocketed from the start of the pandemic. He doesn't need "apologists" - usually a term reserved for people who justify, or can only weakly or conditionally condemn, something universally agreed to be evil, e.g. terrorism. This is exactly what O'Neill is talking about. |
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 17:31:38 GMT
Only in your your fanboy wet dreams💦 What on earth are you talking about. 1) Not that it makes an ounce of difference but I'm not even a Boris supporter, let alone a "fanboy", but... 2) millions of people demonstrably are, his approval ratings rocketed from the start of the pandemic. He doesn't need "apologists" - usually a term reserved for people who justify, or can only weakly or conditionally condemn, something universally agreed to be evil, e.g. terrorism. This is exactly what O'Neill is talking about. FanBoy💋💄💦 |
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Post by PotterLog on May 11, 2020 17:45:45 GMT
What on earth are you talking about. 1) Not that it makes an ounce of difference but I'm not even a Boris supporter, let alone a "fanboy", but... 2) millions of people demonstrably are, his approval ratings rocketed from the start of the pandemic. He doesn't need "apologists" - usually a term reserved for people who justify, or can only weakly or conditionally condemn, something universally agreed to be evil, e.g. terrorism. This is exactly what O'Neill is talking about. FanBoy💋💄💦 no you are |
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Post by bathstoke on May 11, 2020 18:50:59 GMT
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Post by capcom on May 11, 2020 20:40:18 GMT
Good post
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Post by harryburrows on May 12, 2020 20:31:57 GMT
They showed a boarded up shop also saying that coved 19 was having a terrible effect on retail businesses. I know the shop they showed . It closed last summer
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Post by PotteringThrough on May 12, 2020 21:53:06 GMT
.... you should try reading The Australian our “national newspaper”. They quite obviously now employ people who are illiterate Hey man, I’m trying my bset. |
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