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Post by raythesailor on May 6, 2020 18:36:25 GMT
Hi Guys ,
I hope you are all doing OK in these troubled times?
I am sure that you are both as concerned as I am about what is going to happen in the next few weeks and months not only for us at SCFC but for football in general.
There has has been so much talk about the advisability and possibilities on the WW Web and the Media about the restart of professional football at Prem Lge and Championship level that I thought you may like to know what I, a mere season ticket holder thinks about it.
The answer to my question is, and can be made quite complex. It could involve the structure of the football pyramid and how the excessive wealth of the elite few, and the PL in general, should be distributed throughout the entire structure. Or it could be just simplified and the question asked ; What should we do ?
Well as a simple Season Ticket Holder and supporter for as many years as you Peter I can only say that as much as I would like to, I have no intention of attending any games at the 365 for the foreseeable future. This is not due to disloyalties but for self preservation for myself, my family and my neighbours.
This season should be scrapped and forgotten about. Restart next season when it is safe to do so.
As far as my current season tickets outstanding games are concerned you are welcome to keep the money but please allow me to renew my seat(s) when this mess is all over.
Thanking You and appreciating you both
Ray
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:43:06 GMT
Hi Guys , I hope you are all doing OK in these troubled times? I am sure that you are both as concerned as I am about what is going to happen in the next few weeks and months not only for us at SCFC but for football in general. There has has been so much talk about the advisability and possibilities on the WW Web and the Media about the restart of professional football at Prem Lge and Championship level that I thought you may like to know what I, a mere season ticket holder thinks about it. The answer to my question is, and can be made quite complex. It could involve the structure of the football pyramid and how the excessive wealth of the elite few, and the PL in general, should be distributed throughout the entire structure. Or it could be just simplified and the question asked ; What should we do ? Well as a simple Season Ticket Holder and supporter for as many years as you Peter I can only say that as much as I would like to, I have no intention of attending any games at the 365 for the foreseeable future. This is not due to disloyalties but for self preservation for myself, my family and my neighbours. This season should be scrapped and forgotten about. Restart next season when it is safe to do so. As far as my current season tickets outstanding games are concerned you are welcome to keep the money but please allow me to renew my seat(s) when this mess is all over. Thanking You and appreciating you both Ray I agree but some will want their money back for financial reasons and of course no one could have a problem with that. |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 6, 2020 18:49:21 GMT
Hi Guys , I hope you are all doing OK in these troubled times? I am sure that you are both as concerned as I am about what is going to happen in the next few weeks and months not only for us at SCFC but for football in general. There has has been so much talk about the advisability and possibilities on the WW Web and the Media about the restart of professional football at Prem Lge and Championship level that I thought you may like to know what I, a mere season ticket holder thinks about it. The answer to my question is, and can be made quite complex. It could involve the structure of the football pyramid and how the excessive wealth of the elite few, and the PL in general, should be distributed throughout the entire structure. Or it could be just simplified and the question asked ; What should we do ? Well as a simple Season Ticket Holder and supporter for as many years as you Peter I can only say that as much as I would like to, I have no intention of attending any games at the 365 for the foreseeable future. This is not due to disloyalties but for self preservation for myself, my family and my neighbours. This season should be scrapped and forgotten about. Restart next season when it is safe to do so. As far as my current season tickets outstanding games are concerned you are welcome to keep the money but please allow me to renew my seat(s) when this mess is all over. Thanking You and appreciating you both Ray The football pyramid is collapsing around us with lower league and some championship clubs in financial dire straits , part time footballers will be the new era |
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Post by raythesailor on May 6, 2020 19:14:14 GMT
Hi Guys , I hope you are all doing OK in these troubled times? I am sure that you are both as concerned as I am about what is going to happen in the next few weeks and months not only for us at SCFC but for football in general. There has has been so much talk about the advisability and possibilities on the WW Web and the Media about the restart of professional football at Prem Lge and Championship level that I thought you may like to know what I, a mere season ticket holder thinks about it. The answer to my question is, and can be made quite complex. It could involve the structure of the football pyramid and how the excessive wealth of the elite few, and the PL in general, should be distributed throughout the entire structure. Or it could be just simplified and the question asked ; What should we do ? Well as a simple Season Ticket Holder and supporter for as many years as you Peter I can only say that as much as I would like to, I have no intention of attending any games at the 365 for the foreseeable future. This is not due to disloyalties but for self preservation for myself, my family and my neighbours. This season should be scrapped and forgotten about. Restart next season when it is safe to do so. As far as my current season tickets outstanding games are concerned you are welcome to keep the money but please allow me to renew my seat(s) when this mess is all over. Thanking You and appreciating you both Ray I agree but some will want their money back for financial reasons and of course no one could have a problem with that. Fair Comment. I was typing with the benefit of fine weather and a glass or two of Red wine taken to early in the back garden. 🙂 |
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Post by Veritas on May 7, 2020 7:08:19 GMT
Hi Guys , I hope you are all doing OK in these troubled times? I am sure that you are both as concerned as I am about what is going to happen in the next few weeks and months not only for us at SCFC but for football in general. There has has been so much talk about the advisability and possibilities on the WW Web and the Media about the restart of professional football at Prem Lge and Championship level that I thought you may like to know what I, a mere season ticket holder thinks about it. The answer to my question is, and can be made quite complex. It could involve the structure of the football pyramid and how the excessive wealth of the elite few, and the PL in general, should be distributed throughout the entire structure. Or it could be just simplified and the question asked ; What should we do ? Well as a simple Season Ticket Holder and supporter for as many years as you Peter I can only say that as much as I would like to, I have no intention of attending any games at the 365 for the foreseeable future. This is not due to disloyalties but for self preservation for myself, my family and my neighbours. This season should be scrapped and forgotten about. Restart next season when it is safe to do so. As far as my current season tickets outstanding games are concerned you are welcome to keep the money but please allow me to renew my seat(s) when this mess is all over. Thanking You and appreciating you both Ray Well said that man |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 7:15:44 GMT
I agree but some will want their money back for financial reasons and of course no one could have a problem with that. Fair Comment. I was typing with the benefit of fine weather and a glass or two of Red wine taken to early in the back garden. 🙂 Wish I was  Crazy at the minute. Am not fussed re a refund myself but I guess no harm if some are. |
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Post by flea79 on May 7, 2020 10:29:21 GMT
as above not fussed on a refund if null and void, however if they start trying to play behind closed doors and offer me a stream in place of my seat at a game i wont hesitate to ask for a refund, i dont pay to watch it on a screen
its so weird but the idea is repulsive to me
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Post by Veritas on May 7, 2020 11:17:36 GMT
as above not fussed on a refund if null and void, however if they start trying to play behind closed doors and offer me a stream in place of my seat at a game i wont hesitate to ask for a refund, i dont pay to watch it on a screen its so weird but the idea is repulsive to me Don't watch then |
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Post by flea79 on May 7, 2020 11:19:15 GMT
as above not fussed on a refund if null and void, however if they start trying to play behind closed doors and offer me a stream in place of my seat at a game i wont hesitate to ask for a refund, i dont pay to watch it on a screen its so weird but the idea is repulsive to me Don't watch then I won’t be watching that’s what I put? Thanks for clarifying it! Football without fans is just right and will open the door to empty grounds permanently |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 12:42:23 GMT
I won’t be watching that’s what I put? Thanks for clarifying it! Football without fans is just right and will open the door to empty grounds permanently I don't see why it will lead to permanently empty grounds. Think the opposite will happen. Can see crowds flocking back when the all clear given. If folk are waiting 3 hours for a bloody KFC like yesterday then football will be well supported as being missed by so many. Am not for the season being finished behind closed doors, personally this late in the year would rather see the season abolished and start when all clear but easy for us to say that. |
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Post by flea79 on May 7, 2020 13:14:57 GMT
I won’t be watching that’s what I put? Thanks for clarifying it! Football without fans is just right and will open the door to empty grounds permanently I don't see why it will lead to permanently empty grounds. Think the opposite will happen. Can see crowds flocking back when the all clear given. If folk are waiting 3 hours for a bloody KFC like yesterday then football will be well supported as being missed by so many. Am not for the season being finished behind closed doors, personally this late in the year would rather see the season abolished and start when all clear but easy for us to say that. its purely hypothetical but imagine the joy of the broadcasters when football restarts in June and the only way to see it is to pay them for it, massive increase in revenues, they have pretty much managed to block most iptv providers, no pubs to watch it in, you really think they wont lobby clubs to keep grounds shut in exchange for higher tv money? its just a thought but i honestly could see it. if this goes wrong the sports journos screaming for the season to restart (nixon) and the broadcasters should face trial for manslaughter, even club doctors dont want restart currently |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 13:21:36 GMT
I don't see why it will lead to permanently empty grounds. Think the opposite will happen. Can see crowds flocking back when the all clear given. If folk are waiting 3 hours for a bloody KFC like yesterday then football will be well supported as being missed by so many. Am not for the season being finished behind closed doors, personally this late in the year would rather see the season abolished and start when all clear but easy for us to say that. its purely hypothetical but imagine the joy of the broadcasters when football restarts in June and the only way to see it is to pay them for it, massive increase in revenues, they have pretty much managed to block most iptv providers, no pubs to watch it in, you really think they wont lobby clubs to keep grounds shut in exchange for higher tv money? its just a thought but i honestly could see it. if this goes wrong the sports journos screaming for the season to restart (nixon) and the broadcasters should face trial for manslaughter, even club doctors dont want restart currently I guess sport journalists need it to restart. :-) To be honest am torn between what to do but with us into May now I think the league should be cancelled. Can see the CL going ahead for obvious reasons £££ . Be interesting to see how the Bundesliga turns out as will certainly be a benchmark perhaps. |
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2020 14:15:39 GMT
What does TV want?
amongst other things they wanted full stadiums of colourful fans, not empty seats
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Post by Miles Offside on May 7, 2020 15:01:11 GMT
What does TV want? amongst other things they wanted full stadiums of colourful fans, not empty seats True, but they're unlikely to get it, unless by some miracle some genius soon finds a way of inoculating us. I've just posted on another thread how they might show all games live with a restricted crowd present - depending on how far the restrictions might be lifted in the coming months. |
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Post by flea79 on May 7, 2020 15:16:12 GMT
What does TV want? amongst other things they wanted full stadiums of colourful fans, not empty seats True, but they're unlikely to get it, unless by some miracle some genius soon finds a way of inoculating us. I've just posted on another thread how they might show all games live with a restricted crowd present - depending on how far the restrictions might be lifted in the coming months. how do they decide who is part of this restricted crowd? (not having a go by the way) |
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Post by Pugsley on May 7, 2020 15:42:05 GMT
What does TV want? amongst other things they wanted full stadiums of colourful fans, not empty seats TV want football on TV, if it has to be without crowds they will settle for it. It's not going to be forever. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 16:26:26 GMT
Why would anybody want to watch a game of football on TV without crowds there?
An absolutely pointless spectacle.
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2020 17:45:01 GMT
What does TV want? amongst other things they wanted full stadiums of colourful fans, not empty seats TV want football on TV, if it has to be without crowds they will settle for it. It's not going to be forever. Yes of course. I was commenting on the assertion that this could be a long term intent. |
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Post by ab61 on May 7, 2020 17:52:12 GMT
Why would anybody want to watch a game of football on TV without crowds there? An absolutely pointless spectacle. You want to be on here pre season and see how many people are after streams for pointless friendlies. Plenty would watch it. Don’t worry about that. I’m for null and voiding the season NOW btw. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 18:48:11 GMT
Why would anybody want to watch a game of football on TV without crowds there? An absolutely pointless spectacle. You want to be on here pre season and see how many people are after streams for pointless friendlies. Plenty would watch it. Don’t worry about that. I’m for null and voiding the season NOW btw. True. To be fair there will still be a clamour for the absolute football nuts which there are plenty, but me personally? I just don't see the point in it. I'm all for finishing the season off if it was possible to do so properly, but that's becoming apparent that it can't, well certainly not without disrupting next season anyway, so I'm not sure what the answer is. Competitive football behind closed doors definitely isn't the answer and to be honest, I don't give a fuck about Premier League football clubs in all this, they will survive if there was no football played for another 12 months. It's all the lower league clubs that the footballing authorities should be sorting out before we get the Premier League going, but I suppose money talks. It's a joke in my opinion that it's even up for consideration and that's before you touch on all the Health and Safety aspects of it. |
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Crazy at the minute. Am not fussed re a refund myself but I guess no harm if some are.
