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Post by robwahlmann on May 4, 2020 9:58:38 GMT
Badou £5-7M Etebo £5-7M Afobe £6M Woods £3M Butland £8-10M Bauer £500K Gregory £750K Ward free Diouf free Federici free Wimmer free Around £30M+, way too optimistic?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 10:10:38 GMT
Who knows what effect COVID19 will have on football finances?
They're already talking about introducing a wage cap of 7k next year in the Championship, so who knows where everything will end up?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 10:19:56 GMT
I think we'll see a completely different landscape when football starts back up properly, and inflated transfer fees might be a thing of the past. Certainly if you're not of the big boys.
Whatever the fees O'Neill will look to offload the following I reckon:
Adam Davies
Adam Federici (out of contract)
Bruno Martins Indi
Steven Ward (out of contract)
Josh Tyman (season loan)
Mame Diouf (out of contract)
Lee Gregory
Jordan Cousins
Badou Ndiaye
Peter Etebo
Joe Allen (if the price is right)
Jack Butland (if the price is right)
Ryan Woods
Benek Afobe
Kevin Wimmer
Moritz Bauer
Realistically Wimmer, Bauer, Etebo and Ndiaye will be loaned out again I think......
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 4, 2020 10:23:49 GMT
If we can get our money back for Etebo we should, surely to God? I know FFP is restricting how we operate but we'll need a cash injection and he's an asset that should interest others. Badou will probably see his time out on loan and that £14 million fee will be a thing of the past!!!
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 4, 2020 10:37:06 GMT
I feel that Gregory and Allen will be the only ones that we will shift. Joe for under 10 and Gregory for under 1m, the rest will have to be loaned out again. I just feel that if we struggled to sell a player before the virus I'm not sure what will change after it. Gregory being the only exception because I feel he was free we'd be willing to let him go for a low figure - see PGS superstar Choupo-Moting.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2020 10:39:40 GMT
If we can afford to I'd keep Afobe.
This market is going to be hell.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 10:43:20 GMT
If we can afford to I'd keep Afobe. This market is going to be hell. If FFP is scrapped or relaxed it should play into our hands. There will be teams happy to offload players that should be available at a relative bargain. Clubs like Stoke and others who have stood by their employees during this crisis should be pushing for a relaxation of the rules, as well as possible embargos for those clubs who have relied purely on the goodwill of the government. It would be plain wrong for those who have made a moral judgement to be at a disadvantage for those that have "played the system" for want of a better phrase....... |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 10:43:38 GMT
I really hope butland goes and we get in a decent championship keeper
Someone who comes for a similar amount of crosses ,and saves a similar amount of penalties to say mark crossley/ Steve simonsen/ Tommy Sorensen / Adam federici
We can't carry a keeper ,who is rooted to his line and can't save penalties .
It's too much to ask
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 4, 2020 10:44:58 GMT
I feel that Gregory and Allen will be the only ones that we will shift. Joe for under 10 and Gregory for under 1m, the rest will have to be loaned out again. I just feel that if we struggled to sell a player before the virus I'm not sure what will change after it. Gregory being the only exception because I feel he was free we'd be willing to let him go for a low figure - see PGS superstar Choupo-Moting. Id be amazed if Joe Allen moves anywhere judging by O’Neill’s comments about him and his injury also |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2020 10:48:18 GMT
If we can afford to I'd keep Afobe. This market is going to be hell. If FFP is scrapped or relaxed it should play into our hands. There will be teams happy to offload players that should be available at a relative bargain. Clubs like Stoke and others who have stood by their employees during this crisis should be pushing for a relaxation of the rules, as well as possible embargos for those clubs who have relied purely on the goodwill of the government. It would be plain wrong for those who have made a moral judgement to be at a disadvantage for those that have "played the system" for want of a better phrase....... Very true but that depends on Bet365's finances atm surely as to what we could actually do? I'm sure they'll still be making millions but just depends on how much and how much of that they want to waste* money on football transfer fees. But I totally agree with you, clubs who have made players take a cut or furloughed players should get a transfer ban. *it's what I'd suspect Denise Coates would see it as |
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Post by future100 on May 4, 2020 11:12:12 GMT
If FFP is scrapped or relaxed it should play into our hands. There will be teams happy to offload players that should be available at a relative bargain. Clubs like Stoke and others who have stood by their employees during this crisis should be pushing for a relaxation of the rules, as well as possible embargos for those clubs who have relied purely on the goodwill of the government. It would be plain wrong for those who have made a moral judgement to be at a disadvantage for those that have "played the system" for want of a better phrase....... Very true but that depends on Bet365's finances atm surely as to what we could actually do? I'm sure they'll still be making millions but just depends on how much and how much of that they want to waste* money on football transfer fees. But I totally agree with you, clubs who have made players take a cut or furloughed players should get a transfer ban. *it's what I'd suspect Denise Coates would see it as When you look at the list of players in the post's above that we have spent millions on and who are now almost worthless Denise probably has a point |
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Post by chigstoke on May 4, 2020 11:16:41 GMT
If we can afford to I'd keep Afobe. This market is going to be hell. I think we're going to have to. We need to be prepared for little movement in the market IMO, but if O'Neill intends on shopping around Scotland then we can do some of those clubs a favour if we find someone he wants. I |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2020 11:17:03 GMT
Very true but that depends on Bet365's finances atm surely as to what we could actually do? I'm sure they'll still be making millions but just depends on how much and how much of that they want to waste* money on football transfer fees. But I totally agree with you, clubs who have made players take a cut or furloughed players should get a transfer ban. *it's what I'd suspect Denise Coates would see it as When you look at the list of players in the post's above that we have spent millions on and who are now almost worthless Denise probably has a point In my post I nearly put it's why I and I suspect Denise would think tbh. I'm a cautious sort though but at the moment if I was her my priority would be the business that pays me 200m a year not the one that takes away x million a year. |
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Post by xchpotter on May 4, 2020 11:30:23 GMT
This is why I fancy us as an outside bet to go up whenever a new season starts. I think MON has a good record of his teams being greater than the sum of individual parts meaning a bit of wheeler dealing etc. If it presents a chance to off load on some of the bigger contracts and focus on hungrier players then it could bizarrely work in our favour.
Although there is a massive amount of hope in my heart and the SCFC blinkers are firmly on, I think the future could be special and the Coronavirus work unexpectedly to our benefit with the man in charge. Couple this with a canny and dynamic CEO to look after the money and contract side of things and the future is bright.😉
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Post by lordb on May 4, 2020 11:55:38 GMT
We will struggle to get rid of Wimmer,even for free, as his wages are obscene
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 12:05:19 GMT
We will struggle to get rid of Wimmer,even for free, as his wages are obscene Obscene by Championship standards and because he's absolutely shit, but because we implemented a drop in wages after we got relegated and also when we failed to get promoted most of the big earners are now on around the £27k mark I believe. I still thing we'd have to negotiate a deal for him to leave but it's not as far fetched as if he was still on £60k which is what the likes of Villa had to contend with...... |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 13:03:10 GMT
There really isn’t many of our squad I’d want them keep, but shifting them won’t be easy at all,
Only really the young lads I’d be wanting to keep, the rest have had numerous chances to impress and very few have, surely they don’t need more chances to keep on failing / under performing.
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Post by jebbstuart on May 4, 2020 13:12:16 GMT
think we enter a new era on transfer fees, who is now going to have the money to buy these players and pay there wages they want. a lot will be scared of taking on players on long contacts with no guarentee that football will be constantly played until we have a Covid cure.
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Post by innocentbystander on May 4, 2020 13:14:35 GMT
I wish we were buying Etebo rather than selling him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2020 13:34:56 GMT
Who's actually out of contract?
Federici
Ward
Diouf
Any others?
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Post by lagwafis on May 4, 2020 13:40:27 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2020 13:44:22 GMT
Yeah I don't think we'd come close to getting what we paid for him. Player swap and fiddle the books with it? |
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Post by robwahlmann on May 4, 2020 13:50:50 GMT
Yeah I don't think we'd come close to getting what we paid for him. Player swap and fiddle the books with it? If Millwall have a decent left back or winger we might be able to arrange a swap deal, as it seems our former manager really rates Woods. |
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Post by shrewspotter on May 4, 2020 15:16:05 GMT
I don’t think any teams will have spare cash. Can see another season of loaning out players and running down contracts
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 15:18:07 GMT
Yeah I don't think we'd come close to getting what we paid for him. Player swap and fiddle the books with it? If Millwall have a decent left back or winger we might be able to arrange a swap deal, as it seems our former manager really rates Woods. Shane Ferguson, Northern Irish. We were heavily rumoured to be after him in January. Can see him being involved in any swap deal. Maybe even Conor Mahoney also. |
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Post by robwahlmann on May 4, 2020 15:56:19 GMT
If Millwall have a decent left back or winger we might be able to arrange a swap deal, as it seems our former manager really rates Woods. Shane Ferguson, Northern Irish. We were heavily rumoured to be after him in January. Can see him being involved in any swap deal. Maybe even Conor Mahoney also. A better left back option than we have I guess? |
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Post by lordb on May 4, 2020 16:05:15 GMT
We will struggle to get rid of Wimmer,even for free, as his wages are obscene Obscene by Championship standards and because he's absolutely shit, but because we implemented a drop in wages after we got relegated and also when we failed to get promoted most of the big earners are now on around the £27k mark I believe. I still thing we'd have to negotiate a deal for him to leave but it's not as far fetched as if he was still on £60k which is what the likes of Villa had to contend with...... even if £27k a week is correct that's ten times (at least) the amount that the sort of clubs abroad who'd be interested in him yes we would have to pay him off a lump (appropriate pun) sum I actually think he's not as bad as all that - he isn't very good mind - we just paid many many times his value + his attitude wasn't good |
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Post by lordb on May 4, 2020 16:06:24 GMT
Yeah I don't think we'd come close to getting what we paid for him. Player swap and fiddle the books with it? another loan with a decent loan fee probably unless someone like West Brom comes in for him,or Forest or someone |
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Post by bolders on May 4, 2020 16:15:30 GMT
Before covid happened I was confident of offloading Wimmer, Afobe and possible Woods. Now though not too sure. I think most teams will struggle to offload their dead wood.
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Post by shrewspotter on May 4, 2020 16:38:16 GMT
Just speculating here but if the FA and UEFA turn a blind eye to FFP we may see us cancelling some contracts and paying them off
Every club up and down the land with perhaps exceptions to the elite will be looking at huge losses so UEFA surely can’t penalize everyone
If they do turn a blind eye it would be surely better to offload Wimmer, Bauer, NDiaye, Etebo and Woods now either for free or a small fee rather than take the hit when it does matter and FFP can bite us.
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