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Post by thevoid on Apr 15, 2020 15:36:10 GMT
Has anyone else been catching this? It's been pretty good so far with the final part tonight.
Michael Sheen showing again what a good character actor he is, his Tarrant is as good as his Clough
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Post by yeokel on Apr 15, 2020 15:48:47 GMT
We watched the first one last night on catch-up. It was much better than I expected it to be and am looking forward to the next two episodes quite a lot.
I thought it was just going to show the 'cheating' but it's much wider than that.
As you say, Sheen's Tarrant is very impressive.
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Post by thevoid on Apr 15, 2020 16:13:49 GMT
We watched the first one last night on catch-up. It was much better than I expected it to be and am looking forward to the next two episodes quite a lot. I thought it was just going to show the 'cheating' but it's much wider than that. As you say, Sheen's Tarrant is very impressive. Yes they went into the creation of Millionaire as a concept which was interesting. Can't remember the pilot they did though, Cash Mountain. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Apr 15, 2020 18:30:06 GMT
Watched the first two episodes (on catch up) they were very enjoyable and Marc Bonnar (Mr Smith) and Sheen playing great parts. Starting up from the concept of the show was a great way to make the show more enjoyable and not just about the Coughing major whom is up to yet a weak character.
Looking forward to tonight's final episode.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 20:12:48 GMT
I did his Millionaire run on line last night . Got to 250k but was no phone a friend option and had used the other 2 lifelines. Might watch it now on catch up.
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Post by riverman on Apr 16, 2020 11:28:24 GMT
Thought it was pretty good too. I liked the fact it was done in a more light hearted way. Can't quite get my head round the coughing fits in court though, seemed rather far fetched. I liked how the writers have left it open to interpretation. I found myself siding with the defence and I believe they were stitched up. The fact that Smith didn't celebrate like the others suggested he had doubts, especially after his cross-examination and meeting the syndicate geek. Going for appeal as we speak.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 16, 2020 12:56:25 GMT
If the events in the courtroom were accurate I don’t know how they could possibly be found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. Nearly 200 coughs during the filming and Whittock’s medical record showing his coughing to be uncontrollable and TV recordings could easily be manipulated through editing. Though I do think they were guilty, the criminal conviction wasn’t acceptable all things considered.
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 16, 2020 13:32:55 GMT
I am going to Binge watch all three episodes this week end. This lockdown has some, but not many, good points. 🤔⚓️
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Post by greystokie on Apr 16, 2020 20:13:28 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 18, 2020 8:52:25 GMT
Guilty as fuck. Who has a blazing row in the dressing room moments after winning £1m? Thought to be because they'd agreed to stop at £250,000 and the prick got greedy. Also Ingram was convicted of insurance fraud too. From wikipedia: Insurance fraud case
In late 2003, Ingram and his wife were charged with further fraud offences. On 28 October, Ingram was found guilty at Bournemouth Crown Court of obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception, and of a second charge of deception, having attempted to claim on an insurance policy after an alleged burglary at his home. Ingram had failed to tell Direct Line Insurance about claims he had made in the three years before he took out the policy in July 2001. The court was told that Ingram had been a "habitual claimant" with Norwich Union after suffering "unfortunate" losses of private possessions. 
Christopher Parker, prosecuting, said Ingram switched insurers to Zurich Insurance Group in 1997, after Norwich Union reduced a burglary claim from £19,000 to £9,000, and in 2000 switched again to Direct Line. "He has been ineluctably dishonest", Parker said. "He went to Direct Line and didn't make a disclosure about his claims history because he knew he wouldn't have been insured. It might not have started off as the most monstrous piece of villainy but these things tend to snowball and it all came to a sticky end when he claimed for £30,000." Staff at Direct Line were already "suspicious" about Ingram's £30,000 burglary claim but decided to investigate only after reading newspaper coverage about his questionable win on Millionaire.
Ingram was given a conditional discharge on the charge of fraudulently claiming £30,000 on insurance. The judge told Ingram he took into account "the punishment [Ingram had] brought upon [himself] and [his] dire financial state" and rejected an alternative option of community service after Ingram told a probation officer he feared other criminals would bully him.I wonder how many of us would get a conditional discharge for the same offences? Interesting that some of the 'establishment' newspapers (The Telegraph mainly) are starting to side with Ingram now - they don't like it when one of their own gets done! Same with Prince Andrew, we all know he's 'enjoyed' the fruits of his friendship with the convicted paedo Epstein, but the same Royalist propaganda papers are doing their utmost to weaken the case against him. Not that he'll ever go anywhere near the trial or provide a sworn statement, despite promising to help in any way he can! |
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Post by thevoid on Apr 18, 2020 10:00:46 GMT
Did his wife and brother in law really appear on the show or was that part made up?
If anyone's interested, Michael Sheen as Brian Clough in The Damned United is on BBC1 just after midnight tonight
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Post by marwood on Apr 19, 2020 11:10:06 GMT
Just finished watching one episode a night for last 3 nights
Quality drama. Its made me explore the case in depth, I've just downloaded the accompanying 3 part podcast.
The acting was superb. Sheen has been out of the game for a while, apparently retiring from acting to take on Trump activism in the US. I'm glad hes back to doing what he does best.
Clough, Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, and David Frost -he's nailed them all.
None of those blokes look or act anything like each other and yet he gets it spot on every time. And with all of them, he avoids the common mistake of going OTT (pun intended) - everyone can do a bad Brian Clough impression.
Great to see the Peaky Blinder matriarch in a different role also
I agree with some of the other posters -the way they edited the trial left it open to debate and on TV the case for the defence looked (at the time) much stronger
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 19, 2020 11:36:10 GMT
Did his wife and brother in law really appear on the show or was that part made up? If anyone's interested, Michael Sheen as Brian Clough in The Damned United is on BBC1 just after midnight tonight Well, from memory I was pretty sure that they had, and that they had each won £32K. Anyway, just G'd it to check, and Wiki says: 'His wife Diana and her brother Adrian Pollock had previously been contestants on the show, each winning £32,000'. So yes, they did! Incidentally, IMO they were guilty as hell and should all have done a stretch behind bars. |
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 19, 2020 12:01:41 GMT
Just finished watching one episode a night for last 3 nights Quality drama. Its made me explore the case in depth, I've just downloaded the accompanying 3 part podcast. The acting was superb. Sheen has been out of the game for a while, apparently retiring from acting to take on Trump activism in the US. I'm glad hes back to doing what he does best. Clough, Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, and David Frost -he's nailed them all. None of those blokes look or act anything like each other and yet he gets it spot on every time. And with all of them, he avoids the common mistake of going OTT (pun intended) - everyone can do a bad Brian Clough impression. Great to see the Peaky Blinder matriarch in a different role alsoI agree with some of the other posters -the way they edited the trial left it open to debate and on TV the case for the defence looked (at the time) much stronger - I'm a huge fan. Never seen Peaky Blinders, but without any doubt she's one of the country's top, TOP, actresses. She did a TV film called 'Dead Gorgeous' with Fay Ripley maybe 15 or so years ago and she was absolutely superb. I think her first main TV role over here, which got her noticed, was in (I think the first) 'Trial and Retribution, a TV drama written by Lynda La Plante, as a mother whose young daughter had been abducted. She's married to Damian Lewis, one of our top actors - he starred in the USA drama 'Homeland' - so what a fantastic, truly superbly talented couple of actors. |
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Post by innocentbystander on Apr 19, 2020 12:07:29 GMT
Did his wife and brother in law really appear on the show or was that part made up? If anyone's interested, Michael Sheen as Brian Clough in The Damned United is on BBC1 just after midnight tonight Well, from memory I was pretty sure that they had, and that they had each won £32K. Anyway, just G'd it to check, and Wiki says: 'His wife Diana and her brother Adrian Pollock had previously been contestants on the show, each winning £32,000'. So yes, they did! Incidentally, IMO they were guilty as hell and should all have done a stretch behind bars. "Do a stretch"? For taking money off a TV company who expected to pay it out anyway? ITV certainly got their moneysworth in publicity. Do you know how much it costs to keep someone in prison? Prisons are so overpopulated -especially now - that real criminals who have committed real harm are out on tags. You think Society needs to be kept safe from TV quiz fraudsters in case they do it again? |
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Post by thevoid on Apr 19, 2020 12:21:00 GMT
Did his wife and brother in law really appear on the show or was that part made up? If anyone's interested, Michael Sheen as Brian Clough in The Damned United is on BBC1 just after midnight tonight Well, from memory I was pretty sure that they had, and that they had each won £32K. Anyway, just G'd it to check, and Wiki says: 'His wife Diana and her brother Adrian Pollock had previously been contestants on the show, each winning £32,000'. So yes, they did! Incidentally, IMO they were guilty as hell and should all have done a stretch behind bars. You'd think they'd know if someone from the same household had already been in the chair and have a 'one contestant per household' rule. |
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 19, 2020 12:21:17 GMT
Well, from memory I was pretty sure that they had, and that they had each won £32K. Anyway, just G'd it to check, and Wiki says: 'His wife Diana and her brother Adrian Pollock had previously been contestants on the show, each winning £32,000'. So yes, they did! Incidentally, IMO they were guilty as hell and should all have done a stretch behind bars. "Do a stretch"? For taking money off a TV company who expected to pay it out anyway? ITV certainly got their moneysworth in publicity. Do you know how much it costs to keep someone in prison? Prisons are so overpopulated -especially now - that real criminals who have committed real harm are out on tags. You think Society needs to be kept safe from TV quiz fraudsters in case they do it again? Oooo, didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition! Otherwise: Yes. Yes. Yes. What a pity. Yes. |
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 19, 2020 12:27:39 GMT
Well, from memory I was pretty sure that they had, and that they had each won £32K. Anyway, just G'd it to check, and Wiki says: 'His wife Diana and her brother Adrian Pollock had previously been contestants on the show, each winning £32,000'. So yes, they did! Incidentally, IMO they were guilty as hell and should all have done a stretch behind bars. You'd think they'd know if someone from the same household had already been in the chair and have a 'one contestant per household' rule. Yes, that would probably be the most fair way as there were apparently so many people applying to go on the show who never got a look in. No doubt studios are checking up on a lot more things these days re. studio audiences etc. |
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Post by marwood on Apr 19, 2020 12:28:40 GMT
Just finished watching one episode a night for last 3 nights Quality drama. Its made me explore the case in depth, I've just downloaded the accompanying 3 part podcast. The acting was superb. Sheen has been out of the game for a while, apparently retiring from acting to take on Trump activism in the US. I'm glad hes back to doing what he does best. Clough, Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, and David Frost -he's nailed them all. None of those blokes look or act anything like each other and yet he gets it spot on every time. And with all of them, he avoids the common mistake of going OTT (pun intended) - everyone can do a bad Brian Clough impression. Great to see the Peaky Blinder matriarch in a different role alsoI agree with some of the other posters -the way they edited the trial left it open to debate and on TV the case for the defence looked (at the time) much stronger - I'm a huge fan. Never seen Peaky Blinders, but without any doubt she's one of the country's top, TOP, actresses. She did a TV film called 'Dead Gorgeous' with Fay Ripley maybe 15 or so years ago and she was absolutely superb. I think her first main TV role over here, which got her noticed, was in (I think the first) 'Trial and Retribution, a TV drama written by Lynda La Plante, as a mother whose young daughter had been abducted. She's married to Damian Lewis, one of our top actors - he starred in the USA drama 'Homeland' - so what a fantastic, truly superbly talented couple of actors. Didn’t know she had such an extensive or wide repertoire outside of PB, she makes the Polly role her own. I used to fall into the trap of thinking Sheen was just a talented mimic but then I saw him in Masters of Sex where he inhibited the role of Bill Masters completely. Another real person but you get the impression it’s mainly Sheen given free reign to create his own personality Vaguely remember trial and retribution as one of a slew of Prime Suspect knock offs back in the noughties with an angry bald Scottish man |
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Post by thevoid on Apr 19, 2020 12:29:40 GMT
You'd think they'd know if someone from the same household had already been in the chair and have a 'one contestant per household' rule. Yes, that would probably be the most fair way as there were apparently so many people applying to go on the show who never got a look in. No doubt studios are checking up on a lot more things these days re. studio audiences etc. You'd think so, you can't have account opening offers with a bookie if someone in the same household has an account |
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Post by murphthesurf on Apr 19, 2020 12:46:42 GMT
Helen McCrory - I'm a huge fan. Never seen Peaky Blinders, but without any doubt she's one of the country's top, TOP, actresses. She did a TV film called 'Dead Gorgeous' with Fay Ripley maybe 15 or so years ago and she was absolutely superb. I think her first main TV role over here, which got her noticed, was in (I think the first) 'Trial and Retribution, a TV drama written by Lynda La Plante, as a mother whose young daughter had been abducted. She's married to Damian Lewis, one of our top actors - he starred in the USA drama 'Homeland' - so what a fantastic, truly superbly talented couple of actors. Didn’t know she had such an extensive or wide repertoire outside of PB, she makes the Polly role her own. I used to fall into the trap of thinking Sheen was just a talented mimic but then I saw him in Masters of Sex where he inhibited the role of Bill Masters completely. Another real person but you get the impression it’s mainly Sheen given free reign to create his own personality Vaguely remember trial and retribution as one of a slew of Prime Suspect knock offs back in the noughties with an angry bald Scottish man Aaaaaagh!  Yes, PS and T&R were both by Lynda La Plante and both crime/detective series, but T&R wasn't a PS knock-off - they were totally separate entities, each with several individual parts, and both top-notch. David Hayman was the lead actor in T&R. Keeping this brief before some little monkey starts pulling their face about going off-subject.  |
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Yes, PS and T&R were both by Lynda La Plante and both crime/detective series, but T&R wasn't a PS knock-off - they were totally separate entities, each with several individual parts, and both top-notch. David Hayman was the lead actor in T&R.
