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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 20:03:17 GMT
I don’t think anyone can argue with the first three, I think #4 has to go to Ritchie as all-time top scorer. The problem is, that we're then saying that we have done nothing of note (at least related to personalities) since the mid 70's (or before that). I'd say that getting to the prem, FA Cup final, Europe, 3 ninth place finishes in a row, more than 1 current "A" international players is an achievement worth commemorating and the person that best epitomizes those achievements has to be Peter Coates. My vote (based on achievements through the ages) Sir Stan - 1930's, almost Champs, 1960's promotion, our most famous son Tony Waddington - 1960's & 70's, promotion, building our best team, our only trophy, first european adventure Peter Coates - Our fall from grace, the golden share, fightback, the Prem era, FA Cup Final, Europe, assmbling our most expensive team Final place goes to a player representative who rivals sir Stan for most famous ...... Gordon Banks. World cup winner, League cup winner, best years of career spent with Stoke. Kind of an interesting point as under Tony Waddington we came in the top 10 3 times. To put more into perspective we had 2 fantastic 5th place finishes and a trophy but listening to the oldies you'd think we were a permanent top half fixture which we weren't. Don't get me wrong, not putting the team down at all, wonderful to watch but we had a 37% win record and lost as often as we have in recent times. I don't think the recent team gets enough credit on that front and we were one of the big spenders back then and no club dominated transfer fees ahead of us.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 13, 2020 20:31:00 GMT
The problem is, that we're then saying that we have done nothing of note (at least related to personalities) since the mid 70's (or before that). I'd say that getting to the prem, FA Cup final, Europe, 3 ninth place finishes in a row, more than 1 current "A" international players is an achievement worth commemorating and the person that best epitomizes those achievements has to be Peter Coates. My vote (based on achievements through the ages) Sir Stan - 1930's, almost Champs, 1960's promotion, our most famous son Tony Waddington - 1960's & 70's, promotion, building our best team, our only trophy, first european adventure Peter Coates - Our fall from grace, the golden share, fightback, the Prem era, FA Cup Final, Europe, assmbling our most expensive team Final place goes to a player representative who rivals sir Stan for most famous ...... Gordon Banks. World cup winner, League cup winner, best years of career spent with Stoke. Kind of an interesting point as under Tony Waddington we came in the top 10 3 times. To put more into perspective we had 2 fantastic 5th place finishes and a trophy but listening to the oldies you'd think we were a permanent top half fixture which we weren't. Don't get me wrong, not putting the team down at all, wonderful to watch but we had a 37% win record and lost as often as we have in recent times. I don't think the recent team gets enough credit on that front and we were one of the big spenders back then and no club dominated transfer fees ahead of us. I agree with your comment re lack of credit! The problem with the 70's was always consistency. Mark Hughes' trio of 9th place finishes is by far the best performance over any consecutive 3 year period. However, IMO, Waddo deserves the nod because he did mastermind our ONLY trophy to date. I can't believe that no-one spent more than us in the 70's. Do you have a reference for that?
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 13, 2020 20:35:22 GMT
Off twitter. Sure we can all agree and this won’t cause a single disagreement I’ll kick off with Waddo, Matthews, Banks, Ryan That's all well and good, but the real question which single individual is our equivalent of Crazy Horse? My vote is Arnie! Hmmm, on closer examination ...... Why does Crazy Horse have a nipple in his armpit?!?!? Perhaps Arnie wouldn't be a good choice as he was a nipple head.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 21:39:59 GMT
Kind of an interesting point as under Tony Waddington we came in the top 10 3 times. To put more into perspective we had 2 fantastic 5th place finishes and a trophy but listening to the oldies you'd think we were a permanent top half fixture which we weren't. Don't get me wrong, not putting the team down at all, wonderful to watch but we had a 37% win record and lost as often as we have in recent times. I don't think the recent team gets enough credit on that front and we were one of the big spenders back then and no club dominated transfer fees ahead of us. I agree with your comment re lack of credit! The problem with the 70's was always consistency. Mark Hughes' trio of 9th place finishes is by far the best performance over any consecutive 3 year period. However, IMO, Waddo deserves the nod because he did mastermind our ONLY trophy to date. I can't believe that no-one spent more than us in the 70's. Do you have a reference for that? Didn't say no one spent more- we did break a transfer world record though. Arsenal top spenders We had a few lower half finishes under Waddo but nit-picking to go through his record. We were really a 10th to 14th place team. What I meant re transfer fees was not like now where five or 6 teams totally outspend the rest by huge amounts
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 22:07:28 GMT
Waddington, Matthews, Banks and Coates I don’t think anyone can argue with the first three, I think #4 has to go to Ritchie as all-time top scorer. It’s a good argument but I’d want someone more modern in there and Banks and Waddington cover the 70s. Coates seems the obvious choice. Pulis too divisive. Shawcross another good shout. More of an argument for Ritchie for Banks imo.
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 13, 2020 22:59:53 GMT
Lambert Diouf Kitson Ince.
Although Ince’s would crumble at the tiniest bit of contact from anything e.g. air
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Post by maninasuitcase on Apr 13, 2020 23:12:51 GMT
Change splashmore to stokemore and we have our ad campaign courtesy of Krusty 😄😄
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:18:23 GMT
Lambert Diouf Kitson Ince. Although Ince’s would crumble at the tiniest bit of contact from anything e.g. air Diouf has been a good player for us.
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 13, 2020 23:21:52 GMT
Lambert Diouf Kitson Ince. Although Ince’s would crumble at the tiniest bit of contact from anything e.g. air Diouf has been a good player for us. Maybe a bit harsh but I can’t forget all the missed open goals
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:24:20 GMT
Diouf has been a good player for us. Maybe a bit harsh but I can’t forget all the missed open goals Best ever single goalscoring in a PL season for us. Scored goals that kept us in with a shout of staying up. Played actually really quite well at right back. There’s at least 50 others you could have picked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 23:29:14 GMT
Maybe a bit harsh but I can’t forget all the missed open goals Best ever single goalscoring in a PL season for us. Scored goals that kept us in with a shout of staying up. Played actually really quite well at right back. There’s at least 50 others you could have picked. Scarily he's our 14th all time top scorer in the top division Ryan Shawcross is 6th in the most own goals ever scored in the top flight. Level with Mike England and Rio Ferdinand. Useless trivia
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 13, 2020 23:33:08 GMT
Maybe a bit harsh but I can’t forget all the missed open goals Best ever single goalscoring in a PL season for us. Scored goals that kept us in with a shout of staying up. Played actually really quite well at right back. There’s at least 50 others you could have picked. That season ended nearly 5 years ago, he’s scored very few since (many games at rb during the time since so not entirely his fault) Many of those misses were in that season we went down. Was never a right back which wasn’t his fault it was down to the clown who kept picking him to play there but that’s another story. Like I said maybe a bit harsh, what about Wimmer instead?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:33:09 GMT
Best ever single goalscoring in a PL season for us. Scored goals that kept us in with a shout of staying up. Played actually really quite well at right back. There’s at least 50 others you could have picked. Scarily he's our 14th all time top scorer in the top division He’s a bloody good striker who was generally criminally used in his time here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 23:35:32 GMT
Scarily he's our 14th all time top scorer in the top division He’s a bloody good striker who was generally criminally used in his time here. I wouldn't say criminally. Some horrific misses but maybe not as bad as some make out
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:35:41 GMT
Best ever single goalscoring in a PL season for us. Scored goals that kept us in with a shout of staying up. Played actually really quite well at right back. There’s at least 50 others you could have picked. That season ended nearly 5 years ago, he’s scored very few since (many games at rb during the time since so not entirely his fault) Many of those misses were in that season we went down. Was never a right back which wasn’t his fault it was down to the clown who kept picking him to play there but that’s another story. Like I said maybe a bit harsh, what about Wimmer instead? And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 23:39:38 GMT
That season ended nearly 5 years ago, he’s scored very few since (many games at rb during the time since so not entirely his fault) Many of those misses were in that season we went down. Was never a right back which wasn’t his fault it was down to the clown who kept picking him to play there but that’s another story. Like I said maybe a bit harsh, what about Wimmer instead? And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 One thing would say re Jese was the game V Brighton turned on its head when he came on. Won the pen and should have taken it. We would possibly have stayed up. Apart from that what an absolute waste of good talent because he had it in droves but a total waste of oxygen.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:40:55 GMT
And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 One thing would say re Jese was the game V Brighton turned on its head when he came on. Won the pen and should have taken it. We would possibly have stayed up. Apart from that what an absolute waste of good talent because he had it in droves but a total waste of oxygen. One of the biggest cunts in a season full of cunts. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire. Other than that, love him.
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Apr 13, 2020 23:41:29 GMT
That season ended nearly 5 years ago, he’s scored very few since (many games at rb during the time since so not entirely his fault) Many of those misses were in that season we went down. Was never a right back which wasn’t his fault it was down to the clown who kept picking him to play there but that’s another story. Like I said maybe a bit harsh, what about Wimmer instead? And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 I forgot Berahino even existed wow... I’ll pick him, if any one player sums up our downfall it would be him. Owen is the only Stoke player to win a Balon D’or in the last 50 years though 😉
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 23:45:20 GMT
One thing would say re Jese was the game V Brighton turned on its head when he came on. Won the pen and should have taken it. We would possibly have stayed up. Apart from that what an absolute waste of good talent because he had it in droves but a total waste of oxygen. One of the biggest cunts in a season full of cunts. I wouldn’t piss on him if he was on fire. Other than that, love him. I read that piss isn't good for putting out fire . Can actually aggravate jellyfish stings as well. Not sure if the whole piss/fire thing has ever been tested on Mythbusters
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2020 23:46:49 GMT
And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 I forgot Berahino even existed wow... I’ll pick him, if any one player sums up our downfall it would be him. Owen is the only Stoke player to win a Balon D’or in the last 50 years though 😉 He is but he was wank for us and not through his own fault tbf. He should never have been signed. Pulis at his worst.
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Post by marwood on Apr 14, 2020 8:54:19 GMT
Tapei Paul Johnson (1) Paul Johnson (2) des backos
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 8:59:19 GMT
Tapei Paul Johnson (1) Paul Johnson (2) des backos I loved the NASL as a kid. Look at Des Backos in action. The poise and balance.
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Post by march4 on Apr 14, 2020 9:32:23 GMT
It should be four managers.
Pulis and McGrory obviously go on there.
Then Waddo who is a giant in our history.
Fourth one is trickier. I would go for the vastly underrated Durban who in a matter of weeks turned us from a club headed to the 3rd Division to one destined for the 1st Division.
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Post by riverman on Apr 14, 2020 10:20:44 GMT
Mathews,Banks,Greenhoff,Stein
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 14, 2020 10:58:31 GMT
That season ended nearly 5 years ago, he’s scored very few since (many games at rb during the time since so not entirely his fault) Many of those misses were in that season we went down. Was never a right back which wasn’t his fault it was down to the clown who kept picking him to play there but that’s another story. Like I said maybe a bit harsh, what about Wimmer instead? And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 I would say he's probably been our best right back since Hughes jettisoned Wilko and Shotton, who I think were both miles better than anything we've had since in that position. I can't remember Mame actually making any kind of a significant mistake from that position.
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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 14, 2020 11:04:14 GMT
Argue about who should be included all you like - we all know that this'll never get built whilst Scholes is here.
The lack of ambition and forward thinking from this club is startling.
Fucking wank Stoke.
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 14, 2020 11:12:23 GMT
Argue about who should be included all you like - we all know that this'll never get built whilst Scholes is here. The lack of ambition and forward thinking from this club is startling. Fucking wank Stoke. Now you mention him, doesn’t Sir Tony’s beautiful bonce deserve a place in the hall of fame? Frozen ticket prices, free away travel, introducing contactless payments this year? Waddo, Banks, Matthews, Scholes. End of thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2020 11:25:17 GMT
Whitehead, Van Deurzen, De Gooey, Luke Chadwick
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2020 11:51:58 GMT
And he still scored 6 that season despite playing in a crap side and spending at least a third of that at right back. And like I said, I actually thought he did ok-good at right back tbh. Wimmer is a far better shout. Berahino Jese Owen Gudjohnsen Carew Chopper all of the top of my head for being better shouts 😂 I would say he's probably been our best right back since Hughes jettisoned Wilko and Shotton, who I think were both miles better than anything we've had since in that position. I can't remember Mame actually making any kind of a significant mistake from that position. I wanted to say I thought he was better overall than Johnson and Bardsley but couldn't be arsed I agree!
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 14, 2020 21:38:18 GMT
4 Glenn Whelans with different hairstyles
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