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Post by Linx on Apr 7, 2020 20:05:41 GMT
Just been reading Dave Cooper’s history of the Staffordshire Regiments. Apparently, it was a company from the 80th Regiment (The Staffordshire Volunteers) which, in the late 1830s, secured for the British Empire the South Island of what was to become New Zealand. 80th Regiment soldiers from Staffordshire shortly afterwards took their discharge and became an integral part of the first colonists there.
Anyone who has dipped a toe into the history of how the Staffordshire regiment came into being will know it’s a bit complicated but, essentially, the 80th Regiment and the 38th Regiments were both based in and recruited from Staffordshire, and were merged to form the South Staffordshire Regiment in 1881. The North Staffords were formed from the 64th and 98th regiments but at that early point in both regiments’ formation, both recruited widely throughout the whole of the county.
Sorry for being boring but you have to do something in lockdown.
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Post by lordb on Apr 7, 2020 21:39:00 GMT
The Staffordshire Knot is part of the emblem of Brisbane
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Post by Linx on Apr 7, 2020 21:54:03 GMT
The Staffordshire Knot is part of the emblem of Brisbane The 80th was in Australia, escorting a prison ship and then policing prisoners who had been transported. They were sent down there in 1836 and it was a company of 90 men that was detached to New Zealand because of concerns that there was too much activity around the islands from French and American ships. Their brief was to plant the flag on the hitherto unexplored South Island to secure it for Britain and prevent the expansion of French influence in the South Pacific. Perhaps the knot goes back to the regiment’s role in the early colonial days? Or it may just be coincidental? |
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Post by kiwistokie on Apr 7, 2020 22:57:12 GMT
In the North of the South Island is a town called Stoke
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Post by kingdong on Apr 7, 2020 23:06:33 GMT
The Staffordshire Knot is part of the emblem of Brisbane The 80th was in Australia, escorting a prison ship and then policing prisoners who had been transported. They were sent down there in 1836 and it was a company of 90 men that was detached to New Zealand because of concerns that there was too much activity around the islands from French and American ships. Their brief was to plant the flag on the hitherto unexplored South Island to secure it for Britain and prevent the expansion of French influence in the South Pacific. Perhaps the knot goes back to the regiment’s role in the early colonial days? Or it may just be coincidental? Sir Thomas Brisbane who was the Governer of New South Wales between 1821 and 1825 and who Brisbane was named after was also in the 1st Staffordshire Regiment. |
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Post by Dutchpeter on Apr 8, 2020 5:54:18 GMT
Joseph Cook of Silverdale was Australia’s minister of defence before WW1 and regarded as one of the fathers of the Australian Navy.
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Post by felonious on Apr 8, 2020 6:36:35 GMT
Joseph Cook of Silverdale was Australia’s minister of defence before WW1 and regarded as one of the fathers of the Australian Navy. Fending off those buggers from Knutton came in useful after all then  |
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 8, 2020 6:38:56 GMT
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Post by hoffgreen on Apr 8, 2020 7:29:10 GMT
"cough" Admiral Jervis 1st Earl of Cape St Vincent "cough" Just an average sailor really  |
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 8, 2020 7:38:56 GMT
"cough" Admiral Jervis 1st Earl of Cape St Vincent "cough" Just an average sailor really 🤣Does it count if we have to go back to the 18thCent... Did he cut his teeth on a dingy in the newly cut, cut!?! |
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Post by cerebralstokie on Apr 8, 2020 8:29:00 GMT
In the North of the South Island is a town called Stoke Yes, and Stoke beer is one of the best in N.Z. I speak from personal experience! |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2020 9:03:45 GMT
"cough" Admiral Jervis 1st Earl of Cape St Vincent "cough" Just an average sailor really I'd forgotten about that fella, what a career/life he had! Just had a read of his wiki page, incredible life all in all and to live to the age of 88 in those days must have been quite something, such a shame he had no sons to continue his legacy. The names 'Jervis' and 'St Vincent' still featured quite a lot in the RN when I was serving, one shore base and several blocks on other establishments carried the names. Thanks for mentioning him, made for an interesting diversion |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 8, 2020 9:28:19 GMT
A cousin of my great great grandad so a slight claim to fame lol |
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Post by crowey on Apr 8, 2020 10:11:22 GMT
In the North of the South Island is a town called Stoke Yes, and Stoke beer is one of the best in N.Z. I speak from personal experience! ... I liked it too. Knew about Joseph Cook, but didn’t know about the other connections with Oz, especially Brisbane |
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