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Post by bathstoke on Apr 5, 2020 9:01:18 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit)
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 5, 2020 9:14:44 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) BCGR might make a comeback I’ve seen somewhere people with it seem to do better with Covid than others who haven’t |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 5, 2020 9:16:18 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) No the state has to much control already over everyday life |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 5, 2020 9:44:12 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) BCGR might make a comeback I’ve seen somewhere people with it seem to do better with Covid than others who haven’t I remember the BCG needle being the one that the older kids would talk about to scare us when we got to senior school, it was like some sort of badge of honour  I had no idea they'd discontinued it, never really thought about it until I saw your post. |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 5, 2020 10:24:33 GMT
BCGR might make a comeback I’ve seen somewhere people with it seem to do better with Covid than others who haven’t I remember the BCG needle being the one that the older kids would talk about to scare us when we got to senior school, it was like some sort of badge of honour I had no idea they'd discontinued it, never really thought about it until I saw your post. It’s herd immunity the four pricks were to determine if you already had immunity and if you didn’t you had the jab which you should then pass on to your children. |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 5, 2020 10:26:55 GMT
BCGR might make a comeback I’ve seen somewhere people with it seem to do better with Covid than others who haven’t I remember the BCG needle being the one that the older kids would talk about to scare us when we got to senior school, it was like some sort of badge of honour I had no idea they'd discontinued it, never really thought about it until I saw your post. |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 5, 2020 10:32:21 GMT
I remember the BCG needle being the one that the older kids would talk about to scare us when we got to senior school, it was like some sort of badge of honour I had no idea they'd discontinued it, never really thought about it until I saw your post. Interesting stuff, just hope people don't adopt a 'fuck it, I'm alright then' attitude on the strength of it. |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 5, 2020 10:33:59 GMT
Interesting stuff, just hope people don't adopt a 'fuck it, I'm alright then' attitude on the strength of it. I agree but it shows the value of vaccination and herd immunity, it doesn’t say it keeps you safe it, it just says it could be the difference between walking or being carried out of hospital for a lot of people. |
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Post by elystokie on Apr 5, 2020 10:35:46 GMT
Interesting stuff, just hope people don't adopt a 'fuck it, I'm alright then' attitude on the strength of it. I agree but it shows the value of vaccination and herd immunity, it doesn’t say it keeps you safe it, it just says it could be the difference between walking or being carried out of hospital for a lot of people. Give it a few more weeks and that difference might be enough for some :/ |
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 5, 2020 13:23:47 GMT
Be interesting to see how many deaths without underlying heath the people hadn’t had the BCG in the UK. Portugal it’s mandatory to have it Spain it’s not same basic topology and infrastructure both next to each other , yet Portugal seems to be coping better
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 5, 2020 13:50:49 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) Can't blame the parents for this situation. I was in the middle of this scandal 20 years ago , I was told by two leading consultants at the Royal Free hospital in Hampstead that my daughters colitis was down to the MMR vaccination and gave me some compelling evidence / statistics to back this up . This debate raged for a further 10 years until they were both stuck off . Andrew Wakefield and prof walker- smith were found guilty of professional misconduct for inventing the evidence to fit their unproven theories |
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 5, 2020 14:03:24 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) Can't blame the parents for this situation. I was in the middle of this scandal 20 years ago , I was told by two leading consultants at the Royal Free hospital in Hampstead that my daughters colitis was down to the MMR vaccination and gave me some compelling evidence / statistics to back this up . This debate raged for a further 10 years until they were both stuck off . Andrew Wakefield and prof walker- smith were found guilty of professional misconduct for inventing the evidence to fit their unproven theories Andrew Wakefield was educated in one of Bath’s’Posh schools’. He’s still peddling his snakeoil theories in Yanksville... |
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Post by crowey on Apr 7, 2020 10:31:49 GMT
Can't blame the parents for this situation. I was in the middle of this scandal 20 years ago , I was told by two leading consultants at the Royal Free hospital in Hampstead that my daughters colitis was down to the MMR vaccination and gave me some compelling evidence / statistics to back this up . This debate raged for a further 10 years until they were both stuck off . Andrew Wakefield and prof walker- smith were found guilty of professional misconduct for inventing the evidence to fit their unproven theories Andrew Wakefield was educated in one of Bath’s’Posh schools’. He’s still peddling his snakeoil theories in Yanksville... .... doesn’t mean he’s an idiot because he went to a posh school |
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Post by heyzeus on Apr 7, 2020 11:56:23 GMT
With the cataclysmic shift in our times, do you think families that refuse to get their children immunised agains MMR should face sanction(say withdrawal of childbenefit) No the state has to much control already over everyday life Quick question pal. Aren't you on disability benefits? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 7, 2020 12:17:20 GMT
No the state has to much control already over everyday life Quick question pal. Aren't you on disability benefits? I receive what the government choses to allow me for my ill health not that is relevant And am gratefull for it (worked 14 hours a day six days a week no holiday in 16 years whilst paying two lots of taxes bringing four sons up and looking after my mother who had dementia) Just in case you were worried I shouldn't get the money But that does not mean he who pays the piper should always call the tune and I certainly don't belive in the level of surveillance that is allowed in this country the government should be there for people who require assistance It shouldn't be telling people what to do only advise |
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Post by heyzeus on Apr 7, 2020 12:19:18 GMT
Quick question pal. Aren't you on disability benefits? I receive what the government choses to allow me for my ill health not that is relevant And am gratefull for it (worked 14 hours a day six days a week no holiday in 16 years whilst paying two lots of taxes bringing four sons up and looking after my mother who had dementia) Just in case you were worried I shouldn't get the money But that does not mean he who pays the piper should always call the tune and I certainly don't belive in the level of surveillance that is allowed in this country the government should be there for people who require assistance It shouldn't be telling people what to do only advise But you don't live off private income/savings and choose to live on government welfare - that is correct? |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 7, 2020 13:02:36 GMT
I receive what the government choses to allow me for my ill health not that is relevant And am gratefull for it (worked 14 hours a day six days a week no holiday in 16 years whilst paying two lots of taxes bringing four sons up and looking after my mother who had dementia) Just in case you were worried I shouldn't get the money But that does not mean he who pays the piper should always call the tune and I certainly don't belive in the level of surveillance that is allowed in this country the government should be there for people who require assistance It shouldn't be telling people what to do only advise But you don't live off private income/savings and choose to live on government welfare - that is correct? One I don't choose to live off anything I have no choice What do you do work wise? Have you paid many years of tax and national insurance ? I mean if you want to have a go at the disabled in this country bring it on I'm more than ready If not I'd stick to god bothering |
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Post by heyzeus on Apr 7, 2020 13:16:27 GMT
But you don't live off private income/savings and choose to live on government welfare - that is correct? One I don't choose to live off anything I have no choice What do you do work wise? Have you paid many years of tax and national insurance ? I mean if you want to have a go at the disabled in this country bring it on I'm more than ready If not I'd stick to god bothering I'm not having a go at the disabled buddy. I'm having a go at the sort of ludicrous thinking that the government has some kind of all consuming power over people's lives. It's simply not true. And it's kind of hypocritical to be saying so while also believing they should also be providing welfare. And if admin hadn't deleted my thread a bit ago, you'd have seen that I've rejected God. He's a daft sod, and don't even get me started on that idiot Jesus  The avatar should give it away. But don't worry, I'm still making tunes. Now they'll just be a little more evil |
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 7, 2020 13:26:03 GMT
One I don't choose to live off anything I have no choice What do you do work wise? Have you paid many years of tax and national insurance ? I mean if you want to have a go at the disabled in this country bring it on I'm more than ready If not I'd stick to god bothering I'm not having a go at the disabled buddy. I'm having a go at the sort of ludicrous thinking that the government has some kind of all consuming power over people's lives. It's simply not true. And it's kind of hypocritical to be saying so while also believing they should also be providing welfare. And if admin hadn't deleted my thread a bit ago, you'd have seen that I've rejected God. He's a daft sod, and don't even get me started on that idiot Jesus The avatar should give it away. But don't worry, I'm still making tunes. Now they'll just be a little more evil Fair enough Its just that I'm a touch of a libertarian at heart with slight consertive hints |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 7, 2020 16:35:38 GMT
But you don't live off private income/savings and choose to live on government welfare - that is correct? One I don't choose to live off anything I have no choice What do you do work wise? Have you paid many years of tax and national insurance ? I mean if you want to have a go at the disabled in this country bring it on I'm more than ready If not I'd stick to god bothering I'll give you a clue. You don't pay tax and national insurance if you don't live in the UK. |
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