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Post by robstokie on Feb 15, 2020 23:57:43 GMT
Would you stick with Michael O Neill? My answer is a resounding YES! (And this is from someone who believes that, generally, if you get relegated, then it's time to start afresh with a new man at the helm)
Why? He's come into a club who looked dead and buried, and he's revived us. Yes the last 2 results have been desperately disappointing, but who on here would have realistically thought that at this stage of the season, we would be sitting 3 points above the bottom 3 with the same group of players, a bunch of misfits, mercenaries and trier's who just ain't good enough, plus the fact that we have lost, in a lot of people's opinions, our 2 best players we had this season before MONs arrival (and revival) AND the managers hands have been tied realistically by both FFP and possibly the shambles that still presides above him. Obviously, I hope to god that we stay up, but the fact is whether we stay up OR go down, we need a massive change behind the scenes, not just to the playing squad, but to the processes and ethos of the club, and I believe we have the right man in place in MON, whether we are in this league or the one below based on his work both rejuvenating Northern Ireland and, more importantly, what he's done in his short time here.
I admit, I was skeptical in his appointment, given his lack of (zero) experience in English football, let alone this division, but he has been a breath of fresh air, has got this group working for him in a way they haven't worked for a manager since probably the first half of Sparky's reign, and is a straight shooter who doesn't feed us bullshit like a lot of people involved with Stoke City have done in recent times.
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Post by crowey on Feb 16, 2020 0:02:57 GMT
.... more to the point would he stay?
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Post by Block 26 on Feb 16, 2020 0:06:39 GMT
.... more to the point would he stay? 💵💵💵 |
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Post by robstokie on Feb 16, 2020 0:10:53 GMT
.... more to the point would he stay? To be fair, you couldn't blame him if he didn't (I remember hearing that when he got the job that the board offered him funds, but the January we had doesn't suggest that he had that, so that could be possibly something behind the scenes, that's just my take, and I'm not in the know about anything before anyone asks), he's obviously held in high regard considering his achievements with NI. What we need to offer him, in my opinion, is the chance to implement his blueprint on the club - it seems we were only to happy to do this for NJ, effectively writing off the second half of last season for that. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 16, 2020 0:12:14 GMT
I like him but is he still going to fuck off for 10 days next month? Seems a strange thing to do with this much wank on his hands. You'd think he'd like to sort his day job out.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2020 0:13:59 GMT
I reckon MON is safe as houses even if the grim reeper calls in May.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 0:24:15 GMT
I like him but is he still going to fuck off for 10 days next month? Seems a strange thing to do with this much wank on his hands. You'd think he'd like to sort his day job out. Ten days.
Give it a rest!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 16, 2020 0:32:51 GMT
I like him but is he still going to fuck off for 10 days next month? Seems a strange thing to do with this much wank on his hands. You'd think he'd like to sort his day job out. Ten days. Give it a rest!
We may as well set up as an amateur club, 'Michael would like to be here but he booked up an Interail holiday some time ago. Be a shame see him miss it. League one isn't so bad is it anyway?' |
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Post by pushon on Feb 16, 2020 1:13:19 GMT
We may as well set up as an amateur club, 'Michael would like to be here but he booked up an Interail holiday some time ago. Be a shame see him miss it. League one isn't so bad is it anyway?' It's time for him to get his priorities right. His decisions/actions will tell us a lot about those priorities. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 16, 2020 2:12:51 GMT
I like him but is he still going to fuck off for 10 days next month? Seems a strange thing to do with this much wank on his hands. You'd think he'd like to sort his day job out. Ten days.
Give it a rest!
Surely his entire focus has to be on keeping Stoke City Football Club in this league. Give me one good reason why it shouldn't be. Northern Ireland have had more than enough time to replace him, haven't they? |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Feb 16, 2020 3:06:01 GMT
Surely his entire focus has to be on keeping Stoke City Football Club in this league. Give me one good reason why it shouldn't be. Northern Ireland have had more than enough time to replace him, haven't they?And from what I've seen to date, they have made little or no attempt to do so. Or have I missed something? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 3:22:52 GMT
The two suspects still at it.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 16, 2020 3:43:41 GMT
I reckon MON is safe as houses even if the grim reeper calls in May. There is absolutely fucking no chance he’ll be managing us next season if we go down. And that won’t be our choice. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 16, 2020 4:48:41 GMT
No way he’d stay if we went down. He has nothing to gain from it at all. If we do go down, it will probably be pretty narrowly and you can easily say “he was fucked and did a good job getting them that close” which would preserve his reputation and standing.
If we go down again, we’ll probably be in Rookie Manager territory again, none of the established names who 60-70% of fans are aware of would touch us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 8:16:33 GMT
The decision to allow him to carry on with his proper job looks more ludicrous by the day, and it was batshit mental when he was unveiled. We could be rooted in the bottom three by the time he goes back to it, so how daft will we look if we are? If we go down I'm under no illusions that he won't be here and he will be back with NI full time, and our illusive owners and CEO will no doubt be scrambling around for the League One equivalent of Gary Rowett.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if we go down and end up with Kenny Jackett here.
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Post by zerps on Feb 16, 2020 8:18:20 GMT
If we continue to defend as we have against preston and qpr, we’re back to being a Jones team. So he’d be sacked.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2020 9:28:41 GMT
I reckon MON is safe as houses even if the grim reeper calls in May. There is absolutely fucking no chance he’ll be managing us next season if we go down. And that won’t be our choice. Let's hope we don't get to find out. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 16, 2020 10:02:36 GMT
If the worst did happen,there are a few crumbs of comfort.
Campbell should bag 20+ goals in Div.1,that should help in US not getting relegated again,plus there must be some Div.1 London club's we can beat on the road.
Re O`Neil,why would he still be with us in Div.1? after all,apart from this season,it will be the highest grade of league football he`s managed in before,with a good chance of having a promotion on his CV.
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Post by jeycov on Feb 16, 2020 10:10:52 GMT
Surely his entire focus has to be on keeping Stoke City Football Club in this league. Give me one good reason why it shouldn't be. Northern Ireland have had more than enough time to replace him, haven't they?And from what I've seen to date, they have made little or no attempt to do so. Or have I missed something? Jim Magilton (Beginning of February) linked as he’s worked with MON before and is currently Irish FA Elite performance director March games priority for Northern Ireland |
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Post by Godo on Feb 16, 2020 12:58:45 GMT
I can't see a better manager being wiling to come here can you?? So yes I hope he'd stay BUT he'll now appreciate what a shit show he has walked into and the myth of "most managers would love to work for British owners like the Coates family" after the support he received in the January window! So I doubt he'd stay...………..
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 16, 2020 13:05:52 GMT
The problem with him staying if we go down is that it would a open
Admission the manager is not the issue and shine focus elsewhere , recent history suggests that the one held accountable is always and only the manager .
I can see
Some leaking of undermining detail should we lose at Wigan and Luton
Followed by
Following the clubs relegation
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Regrettably Michael has been unable to combine both roles and we have decided it’s best to move on and allow him to focus on his intentional commitments .
We would like to thank Michael for his efforts and the search for a new manager begins immediately the chief excited retuned form his holiday in July and the process that has done so well to date will
Commence then
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 16, 2020 16:10:22 GMT
After yesterday i would say yes the worst will happen we just have not got the fight for a full on relegation battle. We are so poor at defending & do not look like a team that wants to get out of the mess we find ourselves in. The games against Barnsley at home Wigan away & Luton away will define our season & i do not see us winning any of them add to that our run in which sees us away to 3 teams chasing promotion or a play off place & things look entirely bleak.
Will MON be here after relegation only he knows that but he would be a fool to stay on in my eyes when he can revert to being a full time international manager without all the shit he is putting up with here.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 16, 2020 16:48:24 GMT
The problem with him staying if we go down is that it would a open Admission the manager is not the issue and shine focus elsewhere , recent history suggests that the one held accountable is always and only the manager . I can see Some leaking of undermining detail should we lose at Wigan and Luton Followed by Following the clubs relegation “ Regrettably Michael has been unable to combine both roles and we have decided it’s best to move on and allow him to focus on his intentional commitments . We would like to thank Michael for his efforts and the search for a new manager begins immediately the chief excited retuned form his holiday in July and the process that has done so well to date will Commence then I think the blame could quite easily be shifted to our previous managers, leaving O'Neill and Scholes intact. If we get relegated from here though, would too many supporters see O'Neill as being the man to lead us back up again? At this point, people might say yes, but further defeats like yesterday leading to relegation, and I could easily see attitudes changing. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 18:25:06 GMT
Surely his entire focus has to be on keeping Stoke City Football Club in this league. Give me one good reason why it shouldn't be. Northern Ireland have had more than enough time to replace him, haven't they? He wouldn't have signed for scfc when he did unless he was given the freedom to do his duty for NI. Had he not signed when he did, we might have had Delap as caretaker until O'Neill was free to take up his position. The board made the decision to take him on his conditions. |
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Post by colnepotter on Feb 16, 2020 18:26:21 GMT
The problem with him staying if we go down is that it would a open Admission the manager is not the issue and shine focus elsewhere , recent history suggests that the one held accountable is always and only the manager . I can see Some leaking of undermining detail should we lose at Wigan and Luton Followed by Following the clubs relegation “ Regrettably Michael has been unable to combine both roles and we have decided it’s best to move on and allow him to focus on his intentional commitments . We would like to thank Michael for his efforts and the search for a new manager begins immediately the chief excited retuned form his holiday in July and the process that has done so well to date will Commence then [ And this folks clearly demonstrates that care in the community just simply isn't working |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 16, 2020 18:59:56 GMT
The problem with him staying if we go down is that it would a open Admission the manager is not the issue and shine focus elsewhere , recent history suggests that the one held accountable is always and only the manager . I can see Some leaking of undermining detail should we lose at Wigan and Luton Followed by Following the clubs relegation “ Regrettably Michael has been unable to combine both roles and we have decided it’s best to move on and allow him to focus on his intentional commitments . We would like to thank Michael for his efforts and the search for a new manager begins immediately the chief excited retuned form his holiday in July and the process that has done so well to date will Commence then [ And this folks clearly demonstrates that care in the community just simply isn't working Dreadful taste a very very poor post |
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Post by pretzel on Feb 16, 2020 19:15:48 GMT
Sorry to be stating the overstated but if we do go down, can the owners seriously justify paying a £1M+ salary for a CEO in division 1?... especially one who has so spectacularly under performed these last few years.
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Post by lifelong on Feb 17, 2020 16:01:45 GMT
will there be any fans left?
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