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Post by Lightwood on Feb 8, 2020 17:27:48 GMT
Its become a common thing nowadays that the opposing team immediately stand in front of the ball to stop a quick free kick. Countless times today, one of their players (i think 15) stopped us taking a quick free kick.
It's so frustrating that referee's seem to do nothing these days to stop it, rarely do you see a booking even if the ball is kicked at the player trying to stop the free kick.
Is it just me or does this need addressing in the game?
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Post by seabridgestokie on Feb 8, 2020 17:41:53 GMT
If referees enforced the laws of the game then they wouldn’t do it
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Post by elystokie on Feb 8, 2020 18:02:43 GMT
Should do the same as they do in rugby, team doing the stopping concede 10 yards, team with the free kick should have the option of taking the ten yards or declining them.
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Post by wolfinsheepsclothing on Feb 9, 2020 11:32:49 GMT
I swear at one point they stood over the ball, we took a quick kick and the ref made us take it again because of them
Ridiculous!!
Should be booked
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 12:28:48 GMT
I swear at one point they stood over the ball, we took a quick kick and the ref made us take it again because of them Ridiculous!! Should be booked There was an occasion where we took a quick free kick and he stopped us so he could talk to the player who committed the foul. Fair enough if you are going to book him but if not talk to him after. |
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Post by brumstokie on Feb 9, 2020 12:43:31 GMT
Should kick the ball at him & see what the ref does then
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Post by maninasuitcase on Feb 9, 2020 13:05:04 GMT
Should kick the ball at him & see what the ref does then How about missing the ball and kicking the player lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 6:18:39 GMT
Was a rule one season when an automatic booking but Rio Ferdinand did it every time I remember. Utd players used to surround the ref and Ferdinand stood over the ball. They also tried that awful Rugby 10 yard rule was it 2005 but soon thankfully scrapped? That was the worst rule change in history
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 10, 2020 6:51:28 GMT
Wayne Biggins harshly got a yellow card v Exeter for doing it. Free kick taker kicked the ball at him.
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Post by RAF on Feb 10, 2020 7:12:59 GMT
If referees enforced the laws of the game then they wouldn’t do it If referees enforced the laws of the game there would be no one on the pitch for swearing at him alone. Never mind anything else! H |
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Post by Veritas on Feb 10, 2020 8:12:41 GMT
Was a rule one season when an automatic booking but Rio Ferdinand did it every time I remember. Utd players used to surround the ref and Ferdinand stood over the ball. They also tried that awful Rugby 10 yard rule was it 2005 but soon thankfully scrapped? That was the worst rule change in history I think it was a good rule and should be brought back. |
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Post by elystokie on Feb 10, 2020 8:24:06 GMT
Was a rule one season when an automatic booking but Rio Ferdinand did it every time I remember. Utd players used to surround the ref and Ferdinand stood over the ball. They also tried that awful Rugby 10 yard rule was it 2005 but soon thankfully scrapped? That was the worst rule change in history I think it was a good rule and should be brought back. Apparently very popular and effective in this country and others but FIFA scrapped it because countries without a rugby culture couldn't get their heads around it. Why that makes it the 'worst rule change in history' I'm not quite sure. |
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Post by rawli on Feb 10, 2020 9:10:25 GMT
Was a rule one season when an automatic booking but Rio Ferdinand did it every time I remember. Utd players used to surround the ref and Ferdinand stood over the ball. They also tried that awful Rugby 10 yard rule was it 2005 but soon thankfully scrapped? That was the worst rule change in history Worse than the offside farce we have now? |
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Post by rawli on Feb 10, 2020 9:12:22 GMT
Its become a common thing nowadays that the opposing team immediately stand in front of the ball to stop a quick free kick. Countless times today, one of their players (i think 15) stopped us taking a quick free kick. It's so frustrating that referee's seem to do nothing these days to stop it, rarely do you see a booking even if the ball is kicked at the player trying to stop the free kick. Is it just me or does this need addressing in the game? Needs addressing along with time wasting. It's astonishing how much time keepers waste only to be finally booked in the 85th minute. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 10, 2020 9:15:38 GMT
I think it was a good rule and should be brought back. Apparently very popular and effective in this country and others but FIFA scrapped it because countries without a rugby culture couldn't get their heads around it. Why that makes it the 'worst rule change in history' I'm not quite sure. I think it should be brought back and amended so that the team taking the free kick can move it up to 10 yards IN ANY DIRECTION. That would mean that a specialist free kick taker could move the ball up to 10 yards left or right or back or forward to improve the angle (to suit which foot he uses or how much dip he puts on the ball, for example). I'm sure that would stop the delaying tactic by the opposition. If Countries don't "get" the rule because they don't have a rugby culture - they'd soon adapt - they'd have to if it was a law of the game. I don't see what is difficult to understand - if a team attempts to stop a free kick being taken quickly then the side taking it will be given the advantage of deciding where where it is placed - what's difficult to understand about that? |
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Post by elystokie on Feb 10, 2020 9:26:20 GMT
Apparently very popular and effective in this country and others but FIFA scrapped it because countries without a rugby culture couldn't get their heads around it. Why that makes it the 'worst rule change in history' I'm not quite sure. I think it should be brought back and amended so that the team taking the free kick can move it up to 10 yards IN ANY DIRECTION. That would mean that a specialist free kick taker could move the ball up to 10 yards left or right or back or forward to improve the angle (to suit which foot he uses or how much dip he puts on the ball, for example). I'm sure that would stop the delaying tactic by the opposition. If Countries don't "get" the rule because they don't have a rugby culture - they'd soon adapt - they'd have to if it was a law of the game. I don't see what is difficult to understand - if a team attempts to stop a free kick being taken quickly then the side taking it will be given the advantage of deciding where where it is placed - what's difficult to understand about that? I agree with everything you say there PP, I was merely repeating what I read in an article that a (very) brief Google search led me to regarding why FIFA decided to discontinue it. I was somewhat bemused by the 'worst rule change ever' comment tbh, that's obviously subjective but there's been an awful lot of competition for that title, not that I think it's (the rule) anything but a positive step personally, I'm sure we'll be enlightened in due course tho. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 10, 2020 9:32:37 GMT
I think it should be brought back and amended so that the team taking the free kick can move it up to 10 yards IN ANY DIRECTION. That would mean that a specialist free kick taker could move the ball up to 10 yards left or right or back or forward to improve the angle (to suit which foot he uses or how much dip he puts on the ball, for example). I'm sure that would stop the delaying tactic by the opposition. If Countries don't "get" the rule because they don't have a rugby culture - they'd soon adapt - they'd have to if it was a law of the game. I don't see what is difficult to understand - if a team attempts to stop a free kick being taken quickly then the side taking it will be given the advantage of deciding where where it is placed - what's difficult to understand about that? I agree with everything you say there PP, I was merely repeating what I read in an article that a (very) brief Google search led me to regarding why FIFA decided to discontinue it. I was somewhat bemused by the 'worst rule change ever' comment tbh, that's obviously subjective but there's been an awful lot of competition for that title, not that I think it's (the rule) anything but a positive step personally, I'm sure we'll be enlightened in due course tho. Yes, the fact that I replied to your post rather than a previous one was laziness - and not because I disagreed with you!  |
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Post by midtempo on Feb 10, 2020 10:41:52 GMT
IMO I agree, I think moving the ball 10 yards forward should be brought back but Charlton came with one man upfront and three defensive midfielders and time wasted from the start.
They came for a point and to stop and slow the game down at every opportunity and the ref let them, they soon speeded up when they were one down.
This is a bad as the tactical foul well adopted by the bin dipers, Mancs & instigated by the Arse over the years, the two tactical fouls by Charlton on Saturday ( 2nd half) were obvious, but the dark arts teams do it so craftily just a little pull back here and there when the player has gone passed them Fernandinho has it off to an art.
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 10, 2020 12:37:55 GMT
The person taking the kick should blast it into the person in the way to highlight the issue.
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Post by riverman on Feb 10, 2020 12:45:00 GMT
Apparently very popular and effective in this country and others but FIFA scrapped it because countries without a rugby culture couldn't get their heads around it. Why that makes it the 'worst rule change in history' I'm not quite sure. I think it should be brought back and amended so that the team taking the free kick can move it up to 10 yards IN ANY DIRECTION. That would mean that a specialist free kick taker could move the ball up to 10 yards left or right or back or forward to improve the angle (to suit which foot he uses or how much dip he puts on the ball, for example). I'm sure that would stop the delaying tactic by the opposition. If Countries don't "get" the rule because they don't have a rugby culture - they'd soon adapt - they'd have to if it was a law of the game. I don't see what is difficult to understand - if a team attempts to stop a free kick being taken quickly then the side taking it will be given the advantage of deciding where where it is placed - what's difficult to understand about that? Half the time the fuckers chuck the ball forward 10 yards anyway! |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 10, 2020 12:45:15 GMT
To be fair, it's not as if it's something that has suddenly become a common thing. People have been doing it for literally decades!
Anyway, we all know that there is only one real way to stop a free kick being taken quickly......
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Post by Widget123 on Feb 10, 2020 13:36:19 GMT
The person taking the kick should blast it into the person in the way to highlight the issue. Years ago I was helping out the local Cubs team by reffing their home games for them. In one game the opposition striker was jumping in front of our keeper every time he tried to kick the ball long. I had a minor reputation of being even handed and a stickler for the rules (going so far as to reversing a throw in three times due to multiple foul throws!) and had already warned the striker he wasn't permitted to obstruct the keeper. The strikers manager convinced him to continue however as yellow cards didn't really exist in cub football at the time and they were gaining a considerable advantage from the activity much to my annoyance. I quietly told our keeper at half time that I wouldn't punish him if he followed through on a kick and gave the striker one in the testicles. Sure enough five minutes into the second half the striker got his just deserts and to make it even better the dreaded cold bucket of water and sponge was tipped over his midriff to "ease the pain"! 🤣 |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 10, 2020 13:49:42 GMT
Its become a common thing nowadays that the opposing team immediately stand in front of the ball to stop a quick free kick. Countless times today, one of their players (i think 15) stopped us taking a quick free kick. It's so frustrating that referee's seem to do nothing these days to stop it, rarely do you see a booking even if the ball is kicked at the player trying to stop the free kick. Is it just me or does this need addressing in the game? Needs addressing along with time wasting. It's astonishing how much time keepers waste only to be finally booked in the 85th minute. Wasn't the rule the keeper had to get rid in 6 seconds? They routinely hold it for longer than that, including our Jack! Personal gripe! |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 10, 2020 17:30:27 GMT
The person taking the kick should blast it into the person in the way to highlight the issue. Years ago I was helping out the local Cubs team by reffing their home games for them. In one game the opposition striker was jumping in front of our keeper every time he tried to kick the ball long. I had a minor reputation of being even handed and a stickler for the rules (going so far as to reversing a throw in three times due to multiple foul throws!) and had already warned the striker he wasn't permitted to obstruct the keeper. The strikers manager convinced him to continue however as yellow cards didn't really exist in cub football at the time and they were gaining a considerable advantage from the activity much to my annoyance. I quietly told our keeper at half time that I wouldn't punish him if he followed through on a kick and gave the striker one in the testicles. Sure enough five minutes into the second half the striker got his just deserts and to make it even better the dreaded cold bucket of water and sponge was tipped over his midriff to "ease the pain"! 🤣 Classic  but did it stop the goon standing in front of the keeper? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 10, 2020 17:42:18 GMT
Years ago I was helping out the local Cubs team by reffing their home games for them. In one game the opposition striker was jumping in front of our keeper every time he tried to kick the ball long. I had a minor reputation of being even handed and a stickler for the rules (going so far as to reversing a throw in three times due to multiple foul throws!) and had already warned the striker he wasn't permitted to obstruct the keeper. The strikers manager convinced him to continue however as yellow cards didn't really exist in cub football at the time and they were gaining a considerable advantage from the activity much to my annoyance. I quietly told our keeper at half time that I wouldn't punish him if he followed through on a kick and gave the striker one in the testicles. Sure enough five minutes into the second half the striker got his just deserts and to make it even better the dreaded cold bucket of water and sponge was tipped over his midriff to "ease the pain"! 🤣 Classic but did it stop the goon standing in front of the keeper? I bet it stopped him riding his bike home!  |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 10, 2020 17:57:05 GMT
I remember a few years ago a quick free-kick being taken against Chelsea, catching them unawares and resulting in a goal. The only one who spotted the danger was Gudjohnsen, who was right by the ball. He was screaming at his goalkeeper, all the while backing away from the free-kick... meanwhile I was screaming at *him* for not just standing over the ball to prevent the kick being taken. It's absolute basics, stand over the ball as soon as the ref blows for a foul against you, particularly in a dangerous area. I'd be pissed off if any of our players neglected to do it.
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Post by GoBoks on Feb 10, 2020 18:08:08 GMT
Its become a common thing nowadays that the opposing team immediately stand in front of the ball to stop a quick free kick. Countless times today, one of their players (i think 15) stopped us taking a quick free kick. It's so frustrating that referee's seem to do nothing these days to stop it, rarely do you see a booking even if the ball is kicked at the player trying to stop the free kick. Is it just me or does this need addressing in the game? Like one or 2 have said, absolutely nothing new. I remember, I think our first season in the prem, Fellaini scored for Everton against us with a quick free kick from about the halfway line and just about everyone on here exploded in a fit of rage because our players were too naive to stand in front of the ball while we organized. Personally, I like the rugby rule, but don't think it would work in football. It should be pointed out that the rule only applies if the player "interferes with play. I can just see the cheating bunch of ninnies starting to kick the ball directly at a player who is half an inch closer than he should be and then claiming that they should get the kick advanced. And at the end of the day, how much time is really lost? |
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Post by rawli on Feb 10, 2020 18:48:46 GMT
Its become a common thing nowadays that the opposing team immediately stand in front of the ball to stop a quick free kick. Countless times today, one of their players (i think 15) stopped us taking a quick free kick. It's so frustrating that referee's seem to do nothing these days to stop it, rarely do you see a booking even if the ball is kicked at the player trying to stop the free kick. Is it just me or does this need addressing in the game? Like one or 2 have said, absolutely nothing new. I remember, I think our first season in the prem, Fellaini scored for Everton against us with a quick free kick from about the halfway line and just about everyone on here exploded in a fit of rage because our players were too naive to stand in front of the ball while we organized. Personally, I like the rugby rule, but don't think it would work in football. It should be pointed out that the rule only applies if the player "interferes with play. I can just see the cheating bunch of ninnies starting to kick the ball directly at a player who is half an inch closer than he should be and then claiming that they should get the kick advanced. And at the end of the day, how much time is really lost? It's not time it's opportunity. |
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Post by madelinesmithmmmh on Feb 10, 2020 19:20:01 GMT
To be fair, it's not as if it's something that has suddenly become a common thing. People have been doing it for literally decades! Anyway, we all know that there is only one real way to stop a free kick being taken quickly...... This is probably my favourite bit of (non Stoke goal) football action, never fails to raise a smile. |
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Post by Boothen on Feb 10, 2020 19:38:05 GMT
To be fair, it's not as if it's something that has suddenly become a common thing. People have been doing it for literally decades! Anyway, we all know that there is only one real way to stop a free kick being taken quickly...... Came here to post this myself. |
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but did it stop the goon standing in front of the keeper?
