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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 2, 2020 12:36:11 GMT
Admin please delete if this has been posted on another thread and I've missed it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:08:23 GMT
Robbie Savage with his usual in depth analysis.
"It's ridiculous".
Not anywhere near as ridiculous as your fucking hair or the way you are dressed you daft fuck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:19:56 GMT
I agree with Savage, it's ridiculous. Players have either little say in moves or have to make life changing decisions in literally minutes in some cases.
It's no wonder some transfers go wrong, players get unsettled etc.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 2, 2020 14:32:45 GMT
It's a really good point he makes about what if he'd had kids at the time who were settled in school?
I know they get rewarded with massive salaries but still.
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Post by waffles on Feb 2, 2020 14:47:44 GMT
He could afford to buy the school and take it with him
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Post by lennythegoose on Feb 2, 2020 14:53:20 GMT
Genuinely interesting angle to it. London to Stoke isn’t so bad but if you’re off abroad at the drop of a hat then it’s huge upheaval. Just an observation.
Great contribution and insight from Savage though... “you had a Big Mac? A full Big Mac?”
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Post by kerouac on Feb 2, 2020 15:48:55 GMT
I’d listen to it if it didn’t have Uber cunt Savage on it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 15:55:03 GMT
I agree with Savage, it's ridiculous. Players have either little say in moves or have to make life changing decisions in literally minutes in some cases. It's no wonder some transfers go wrong, players get unsettled etc. My heart bleeds for them, it really does. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 16:37:16 GMT
I agree with Savage, it's ridiculous. Players have either little say in moves or have to make life changing decisions in literally minutes in some cases. It's no wonder some transfers go wrong, players get unsettled etc. My heart bleeds for them, it really does. It works the other way aswell, doesn't it? I wonder how Anthonee Robinson feels at Wigan? A deadline day move to AC Milan fell through whereas if there was no deadline day it might have gone through. Come the summer they might go for someone else. Chance of a lifetime blasted away in the nonsense of deadline day. |
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Post by felonious on Feb 2, 2020 17:08:23 GMT
Admin please delete if this has been posted on another thread and I've missed it. Thanks for that, Peter finally confirming beyond all doubt that Stoke is in the Midlands  |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Feb 2, 2020 17:18:12 GMT
At least he wasn't in Woking Pizza Express
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 17:38:09 GMT
My heart bleeds for them, it really does. It works the other way aswell, doesn't it? I wonder how Anthonee Robinson feels at Wigan? A deadline day move to AC Milan fell through whereas if there was no deadline day it might have gone through. Come the summer they might go for someone else. Chance of a lifetime blasted away in the nonsense of deadline day. Suppose so, but I can't have sympathy for footballers for stuff like that, no matter what level they play at, it's all part and parcel of their chosen profession. Like i always say to my lady when she's moaning about working at home every night of the week, "you chose to be a teacher". |
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 2, 2020 19:34:36 GMT
My heart bleeds for them, it really does. It works the other way aswell, doesn't it? I wonder how Anthonee Robinson feels at Wigan? A deadline day move to AC Milan fell through whereas if there was no deadline day it might have gone through. Come the summer they might go for someone else. Chance of a lifetime blasted away in the nonsense of deadline day. Just wondering.....Do you think if AC Milan like, really, really, weally wanted Anthoneeeeee they would have been deterred by the big hand being on the 12 and the ickle hand being on the 11 on a certain day? Sounds more like someone’s agent needs a boat payment. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 2, 2020 19:40:15 GMT
It works the other way aswell, doesn't it? I wonder how Anthonee Robinson feels at Wigan? A deadline day move to AC Milan fell through whereas if there was no deadline day it might have gone through. Come the summer they might go for someone else. Chance of a lifetime blasted away in the nonsense of deadline day. Suppose so, but I can't have sympathy for footballers for stuff like that, no matter what level they play at, it's all part and parcel of their chosen profession. Like i always say to my lady when she's moaning about working at home every night of the week, "you chose to be a teacher". But that jobs vacational (damn spell check) I mean vocational, though  |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 2, 2020 20:09:26 GMT
It's a really good point he makes about what if he'd had kids at the time who were settled in school? I know they get rewarded with massive salaries but still. End of the day nobody *has* to go anywhere though, as we know only too well.. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 2, 2020 20:29:25 GMT
It's a really good point he makes about what if he'd had kids at the time who were settled in school? I know they get rewarded with massive salaries but still. End of the day nobody *has* to go anywhere though, as we know only too well.. To be fair, in the interview he says that he was told that he HAD to go to Stoke even though he didn't want to. It would have been interesting to see what the outcome would have been if he had flat out refused to do so. |
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Post by boothenender on Feb 2, 2020 20:42:17 GMT
I am so glad that Big Pete did come to Stoke.
He was one of our best ever signings.
The perfect Professional Player.
Gave his all every game.
He scored some great goals and some very important goals for our club.
One of my all time favourite Stoke City players, and i have seen some good ones after following Stoke for over 52 years.
Great player and and good bloke.
Conna fault the lad.
Every one has the right to resign from a job if they want to, but Peter Crouch decided to come to Stoke City and we where lucky to get him.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Feb 2, 2020 21:07:03 GMT
TP told me numerous times how he could tear a strip off him him in training, in front of everyone. He'd just say. Yes boss! and try even harder.
Said he was brilliant and fantastic proffesional.
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Post by rawli on Feb 3, 2020 10:17:53 GMT
He put us on the map. Everyone knew him. A few of us went to the world cup in Brazil and even at the statue of Christ people were recognizing my Stoke shirt and saying 'Stoke - Peter Crouch'. Same in Valencia. We blagged our way into the seats behind the dugouts and the locals there were asking where Crouch was. To be fair I was shouting the same thing at Pulis and his sidekick.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 3, 2020 11:39:11 GMT
I love Crouchy but he was an unneccesary that did for TP in the end and was never part of our best teams really.
He scored goals yes but out play generally suffered when he played.
We needed a version of KJ that could be arsed and we diverged totally from that to a slow striker with poor movement.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2020 17:25:49 GMT
End of the day nobody *has* to go anywhere though, as we know only too well.. To be fair, in the interview he says that he was told that he HAD to go to Stoke even though he didn't want to. It would have been interesting to see what the outcome would have been if he had flat out refused to do so. Yeah, I assume he meant that in practical terms it was made clear they didn't want him and there wasn't much of a choice to be made. But he'd be perfectly within his rights to absolutely refuse to go. I guess the consequences would be being frozen out of any first-team action, playing with the 23s and generally having a miserable work life. Sent out on loan maybe? Don't know if the contract situation would be different with that... |
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Post by threepoints on Feb 3, 2020 18:52:00 GMT
Crouch's unexpected move was to Burnley for the last few games of his career. Can't see why it appealed to either him or Burnley.
Anyone know why he went?
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 3, 2020 19:09:07 GMT
Crouch's unexpected move was to Burnley for the last few games of his career. Can't see why it appealed to either him or Burnley. Anyone know why he went? Jones didn't want him, we wanted Vokes, gave Burnley a bit of experience and a different option (cheap), gave him a chance for a couple more PL goals. Doesn't seem a head-scratcher to me. |
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Post by threepoints on Feb 3, 2020 19:17:24 GMT
Crouch's unexpected move was to Burnley for the last few games of his career. Can't see why it appealed to either him or Burnley. Anyone know why he went? Jones didn't want him, we wanted Vokes, gave Burnley a bit of experience and a different option (cheap), gave him a chance for a couple more PL goals. Doesn't seem a head-scratcher to me. I understand that he commuted from 'down south' to Stoke, Burnley would be a different proposition. He may have been offered a bit more cash, but he's already a rich man.
All to play just six games!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 19:25:53 GMT
If you assume he got 40,000 a week and only even managed 6 weeks.
Regardless of how rich I was if I was offered 250,000 for a bit of a commute for 6 weeks I'd take it.
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Post by threepoints on Feb 3, 2020 19:29:16 GMT
If you assume he got 40,000 a week and only even managed 6 weeks. Regardless of how rich I was if I was offered 250,000 for a bit of a commute for 6 weeks I'd take it.
But he would have otherwise got paid by Stoke wouldn't he?
I can, however, understand why he left Spurs - £3 million pay off to go. There was a court case about the National Insurance implications of this pay off:
"Crouch agreed a deal with Tottenham Hotspur under which he received a “termination payment” of £3m in three equal instalments following the termination of his employment with the club on 31 August 2011."
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 3, 2020 19:32:25 GMT
Jones didn't want him, we wanted Vokes, gave Burnley a bit of experience and a different option (cheap), gave him a chance for a couple more PL goals. Doesn't seem a head-scratcher to me. I understand that he commuted from 'down south' to Stoke, Burnley would be a different proposition. He may have been offered a bit more cash, but he's already a rich man. All to play just six games!
He got the train from / to Euston for training and left a car on Stoke station car park, door to door his commute was probably 2hrs. Burnley is indeed a different proposition, he’d have to get to Piccadilly then it’s a 30mile drive (unless he got 2 trains). Easily a 3hr journey. I doubt Burnley paid him any more tbh. |
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Post by rawli on Feb 3, 2020 19:39:05 GMT
Jones didn't want him, we wanted Vokes, gave Burnley a bit of experience and a different option (cheap), gave him a chance for a couple more PL goals. Doesn't seem a head-scratcher to me. I understand that he commuted from 'down south' to Stoke, Burnley would be a different proposition. He may have been offered a bit more cash, but he's already a rich man. All to play just six games!
Chance to play premier league football one last time instead of not playing for an imbecile? |
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Post by threepoints on Feb 3, 2020 19:45:30 GMT
I understand that he commuted from 'down south' to Stoke, Burnley would be a different proposition. He may have been offered a bit more cash, but he's already a rich man. All to play just six games!
Chance to play premier league football one last time instead of not playing for an imbecile?
Could be, in which case it's a tribute to his attitude to the game.
I didn't know that Jones wouldn't play him at Stoke.
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Post by walrus on Feb 3, 2020 20:17:29 GMT
He elaborates what happened with the deadline day move to Stoke in his book. If I recall correctly the line he takes there is something like “Footballers know it’s a short career and usually don’t stay at one club for more than a couple of years. You have to accept that you’re going to move around a lot and may not get to have a settled home life. In exchange for that you get a huge amount of money and status. It’s a trade off worth taking.”
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