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Post by superleft on Jan 20, 2020 21:06:40 GMT
Let's just say that elbow on Joe Allen would have been given as a red card (which it would seem most people agree on)
This is the reason VAR is in existence.On a night like tonight, needing the points, where you've got your nose in front, that red card could change the chances of getting 3 points. Never mind it evening up over the course of the season. Just get what you deserve through technology assisting humans to get the right decision.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 20, 2020 21:20:38 GMT
Can't understand people who don't want VAR. This is what you get without it. And the ref was looking right at it 10 yards away.
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Post by adi on Jan 20, 2020 22:02:23 GMT
Exactamundo
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 20, 2020 22:07:05 GMT
I'd rather not have VAR if the flip side is every so often a red card is dished out, its ruining the game.
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 20, 2020 22:12:09 GMT
I really don’t see the problem with VAR. At the end of the day it gives the correct decision within the laws of the game...if you don’t like it, change the laws of the game. No longer can the big boys profit from biased referees.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 20, 2020 22:17:00 GMT
I really don’t see the problem with VAR. At the end of the day it gives the correct decision within the laws of the game...if you don’t like it, change the laws of the game. No longer can the big boys profit from biased referees. Are you happy with how its being used? I mean the decisions being made, they haven't all been right which is the argument for it and the way its being used for offsides is a mess.
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Post by maine on Jan 20, 2020 22:17:20 GMT
I hate VAR but I'm pretty sure that Pereira would have been rightly sent off. Gratuitous violence.
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Post by superleft on Jan 20, 2020 22:18:18 GMT
I'd rather have it and get the decisions right, to the letter of the law. Id go as far as saying some laws might need changing and implementation might be better but not losing var. It's helping gets results right.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 20, 2020 22:19:01 GMT
Was never a red card, not even a yellow IMO, he wasn't even looking where Allen was and just about caught him, well done Joe for making the most of it though, it's about time we started using a few of the darker arts. Gouranga.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 22:21:34 GMT
Was never a red card, not even a yellow IMO, he wasn't even looking where Allen was and just about caught him, well done Joe for making the most of it though, it's about time we started using a few of the darker arts. Gouranga. Wrong on every count
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 20, 2020 22:24:08 GMT
Was never a red card, not even a yellow IMO, he wasn't even looking where Allen was and just about caught him, well done Joe for making the most of it though, it's about time we started using a few of the darker arts. Gouranga. If he wasn't looking why did he then throw a elbow, absolute no reason other than to elbow Allen. Stone wall red card.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 20, 2020 22:25:07 GMT
Stop dreaming boys. Gouranga.
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Post by ursemboys on Jan 20, 2020 22:26:06 GMT
Stop dreaming boys. Gouranga. Give over Albert you know it was a red your just fishing for a reaction
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 22:32:16 GMT
Does the FA still issue retrospective red cards nowadays? If so then he deserves one for that elbow on Joe.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 22:51:17 GMT
I really don’t see the problem with VAR. At the end of the day it gives the correct decision within the laws of the game...if you don’t like it, change the laws of the game. No longer can the big boys profit from biased referees. Does it though? It gives a decision which is one referees interpretation of the laws of the game. Tonight didn't need VAR. It needed a referee who was simply prepared to be a referee. He bottled it though.
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Jan 20, 2020 22:53:33 GMT
If he’d have been sent off we’d have lost we’re stoke u know 😉
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Post by Davef on Jan 20, 2020 22:57:51 GMT
VAR would probably have ruled our goal out for handball against Ince.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 20, 2020 22:58:55 GMT
I’d rather he stayed on the pitch than have VAR.
Clear red mind.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 20, 2020 23:10:34 GMT
Was never a red card, not even a yellow IMO, he wasn't even looking where Allen was and just about caught him, well done Joe for making the most of it though, it's about time we started using a few of the darker arts. Gouranga. Out of all the daft things you've ever said, and let's be honest, they're nearly all daft, that's the daftest. Deliberate elbow, knew exactly where Allen was, knew exactly what he was doing. Red all night long.
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Post by upthefud on Jan 20, 2020 23:34:58 GMT
1 - VAR is a farce. Theres no guarentee that would have been overturned
2 - Now you all want the bloke to miss a a game against Luton? How exactly would that benefit us?
3 - it probably was a red but some of this mock outrage is OTT
4 - we won!! Enjoy it
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 20, 2020 23:42:01 GMT
Higginbottham said it was a red and if VAR was present he would’ve been off.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 20, 2020 23:48:14 GMT
VAR would probably have ruled our goal out for handball against Ince. Didn't it hit him on the hip?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 20, 2020 23:58:21 GMT
VAR is shit and ruining the game.....
Players have been sent off in the past for elbowing without the use of VAR!!!
Tonight the ref either DIDN'T see it, or he just bottled it!!! Either way, if we're convinced that VAR would have got him a red card, then it's up to the FA to review the situation and take necessary steps, without the use of VAR!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 0:04:57 GMT
VAR should exist for incidents like this, it should be thee to point out shocking errors and not to analyse every decision to painful degrees.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 21, 2020 0:29:12 GMT
No. I still dont want var.
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 21, 2020 3:07:47 GMT
Does the FA still issue retrospective red cards nowadays? If so then he deserves one for that elbow on Joe. Isn’t there some daft thing about not being able to change a decision if the ref penalised the incident on the pitch? It was a stonewall red, I couldn’t believe my ears when Denis was saying there was nothing in it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 3:21:33 GMT
If there had been VAR Allen himself would have walked off earlu in the second half when he kicked Kanu with no ball there. If not a straight red which I thought it was, then certainly a second yellow.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 21, 2020 7:23:24 GMT
VAR is shit and ruining the game..... Players have been sent off in the past for elbowing without the use of VAR!!! Tonight the ref either DIDN'T see it, or he just bottled it!!! Either way, if we're convinced that VAR would have got him a red card, then it's up to the FA to review the situation and take necessary steps, without the use of VAR!!! I don’t think the ref had a clear view of the incident and with the linesman on the other side could not be sure of what had happened Joe doesn’t usually go down like that and the culprit looked very concerned that he was about to receive a red Var would have been able to review this , agree his late tackle in the 2nd half could easily have been a 2nd yellow too
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Post by colinroberts1 on Jan 21, 2020 8:06:34 GMT
In all probability, if the ref did his job in the 1st half, Allen doesn't need to make the tackle in the 2nd half!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 8:15:47 GMT
In all probability, if the ref did his job in the 1st half, Allen doesn't need to make the tackle in the 2nd half! From his body language it looked very much like an old Welsh score settled.
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