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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 2, 2020 14:59:18 GMT
Struck me yesterday that our formation found more space out wide
Was that an illusion? Have visited the ground many times over recent years and it always seemed a big pitch
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 15:01:19 GMT
Huddersfield 105 x 69
Stoke City 105 x 68
That's according to the last update on footballstadiums.co.uk
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jan 2, 2020 15:04:23 GMT
So an extra 50 cms on either wing! Aye - that'll make a huge difference!  |
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Post by TheWiseMaster on Jan 2, 2020 15:05:56 GMT
So a metre wider?
Doesn't sound a lot - but seemed to suit us with a player of pace who could chase the wide ball...
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Post by banksisgod on Jan 2, 2020 15:19:53 GMT
I think you'll find that it was less to do with who wide the pitch was, and more to do with the difference between Campbell and Ince.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jan 2, 2020 15:39:12 GMT
Don't underestimate the difference Powell made in enabling that better use of space.
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Post by nott1 on Jan 2, 2020 15:45:49 GMT
So and extra 50 cms on either wing! Aye - that'll make a huge difference! They say size doesn't matter! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2020 15:46:36 GMT
Don't underestimate the difference Powell made in enabling that better use of space. This. Powell never stopped moving and this created tonnes of space to operate in. |
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2020 15:46:57 GMT
I still find it extraordinary that there is not an official exact size for a football pitch.
I mean can you imagine someone saying to Rafa Nadal in tennis where hitting the lines is their stock in trade 'Don't forget the courts are quite wide at Wimbledon so put a little extra on your cross court'.
You'd think pros at the top of their game on the world stage would be grooved to within an inch of their lives around the precise dimensions of the playing surface.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 2, 2020 15:54:41 GMT
Also think it was Powell that made space for everyone else.
He was popping up all over the pitch and Huddersfield never put a player on him.
Hes not just a skillful player but an expert at finding space in between the lines. I just hope he doesnt get injured falling over his dog
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Post by nott1 on Jan 2, 2020 15:55:36 GMT
I still find it extraordinary that there is not an official size for a football pitch. I mean can you imagine someone saying to Rafa Nadal in tennis where hitting the lines is their stock in trade 'Don't forget the courts are quite wide at Wimbledon so put a little extra on your cross court'. You'd think pros at the top of their game on the world stage would be grooved to within an inch of their lives around the precise dimensions of the playing surface. I agree totally. there should be a set standard size for all pitches in every sport almost, but not golf. |
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Post by westgatelakes on Jan 2, 2020 15:56:38 GMT
I still find it extraordinary that there is not an official size for a football pitch. I mean can you imagine someone saying to Rafa Nadal in tennis where hitting the lines is their stock in trade 'Don't forget the courts are quite wide at Wimbledon so put a little extra on your cross court'. You'd think pros at the top of their game on the world stage would be grooved to within an inch of their lives around the precise dimensions of the playing surface. Well Godfrey, according to Wikipedia, the standard size for a pitch is 105m x 68m but FIFA allow a variance of up to 5m (longer or shorter)in length and up to 4m (longer or shorter)in width, hence the reduction in width to accommodate Rory`s exocets a few years ago :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 15:57:34 GMT
Also don't underestimate the change in system also. It naturally lengthens the game and creates vertical space because of it's design, which forces the opponent to either change shape to pack the midfield or to go long. Chuck Powell in behind Vokes and you see the end result.
It's no coincidence to me that as well as Vokes playing better with players around him, the likes of Clucas and Allen also had more time and space on the ball in midfield.
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2020 16:16:01 GMT
I still find it extraordinary that there is not an official size for a football pitch. I mean can you imagine someone saying to Rafa Nadal in tennis where hitting the lines is their stock in trade 'Don't forget the courts are quite wide at Wimbledon so put a little extra on your cross court'. You'd think pros at the top of their game on the world stage would be grooved to within an inch of their lives around the precise dimensions of the playing surface. Well Godfrey, according to Wikipedia, the standard size for a pitch is 105m x 68m but FIFA allow a variance of up to 5m (longer or shorter)in length and up to 4m (longer or shorter)in width, hence the reduction in width to accommodate Rory`s exocets a few years ago :-) Yeah we perhaos owed our 10 years in the Prem to this flexibility in support of Rory and his tracer bullets! If I read that right you could have 2 pitches both legal one 10 metres and 8 metres wider than the other! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 16:44:52 GMT
So and extra 50 cms on either wing! Aye - that'll make a huge difference! They say size doesn't matter! Only men say that |
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Post by Linx on Jan 2, 2020 17:09:07 GMT
I can’t remember now, but was it true that TP narrowed the pitch to facilitate Rory’s throw-ins?
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Post by AlliG on Jan 2, 2020 17:32:47 GMT
I can’t remember now, but was it true that TP narrowed the pitch to facilitate Rory’s throw-ins? He certainly narrowed the pitch and shortened it (but whether that was specifically for Rory or just to make it easier to stay compact I can't remember). If you recall, when we played in The Europa League, the pitch had to be extended and widened to meet UEFAs minimum size. |
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Post by Gods on Jan 2, 2020 17:39:26 GMT
I remember West Ham putting some advertising boards in the way of the Rory run up at Upton Park.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 18:52:55 GMT
It stands to reason that wide balls (as apposed to the normal round ones) will require a wider pitch. This opens up a whole debate on pitch sizes for "long balls", "square balls" and "short balls".
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Post by rawli on Jan 3, 2020 1:14:17 GMT
Charlie going must have freed up quite a few yards as well.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 3, 2020 9:50:37 GMT
There is always plenty of width , it's just Ince wants to cut inside or go backwards!
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jan 3, 2020 12:09:33 GMT
The main difference was the movement of Nick Powell and Campbell. It was also good to see someone within 10 meters of Vokes for a change
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Post by scfcrmagic on Jan 3, 2020 22:28:01 GMT
Aah but the dressing rooms are smaller ....😀
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 3, 2020 23:42:00 GMT
As well as Powell moving about, the players were making themselves available for a pass far better, Normally it is only Allen that really tries in the middle. McClean makes himself available out wide, but tends to be too far forward, demanding long passes to him. Ince positively hides behind opponents, if he doesn't fancy it, and Clucas drifts in and out of the match.
Our passing accuracy in the final third against Huddersfield was much higher than against Fulham.
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