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Post by kerouac on Dec 29, 2019 21:33:38 GMT
Love him or hate him he's the player that makes this team tick.If he's not harrying or pushing or holding in mid field we may as well forget it,when this happens,particularly when he's pushing further up field hes a real menace and we are a different proposition.
Today he was fucked you could tell,as he was the second half against Sheff Wednesday.....for fucks sake either start him balls out or at realise when his engine is gone and replace him,its not rocketfuckingscience.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Dec 29, 2019 21:34:31 GMT
Love him or hate him he's the player that makes this team tick.If he's not harrying or pushing or holding in mid field we may as well forget it,when this happens,particularly when he's pushing further up field hes a real menace and we are a different proposition. Today he was fucked you could tell,as he was the second half against Sheff Wednesday.....for fucks sake either start him balls out or at realise when his engine is gone and replace him,its not rocketfuckingscience. Love him or hate him, he really doesn’t. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 21:38:08 GMT
Love him or hate him he's the player that makes this team tick.If he's not harrying or pushing or holding in mid field we may as well forget it,when this happens,particularly when he's pushing further up field hes a real menace and we are a different proposition. Today he was fucked you could tell,as he was the second half against Sheff Wednesday.....for fucks sake either start him balls out or at realise when his engine is gone and replace him,its not rocketfuckingscience. Love him or hate him, he really doesn’t. doesn't what? |
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Post by kerouac on Dec 29, 2019 21:39:32 GMT
Love him or hate him he's the player that makes this team tick.If he's not harrying or pushing or holding in mid field we may as well forget it,when this happens,particularly when he's pushing further up field hes a real menace and we are a different proposition. Today he was fucked you could tell,as he was the second half against Sheff Wednesday.....for fucks sake either start him balls out or at realise when his engine is gone and replace him,its not rocketfuckingscience. Love him or hate him, he really doesn’t. ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 21:39:49 GMT
Funny that cause Stoke City really don't tick.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2019 21:41:59 GMT
Love him or hate him, he really doesn’t. doesn't what? Make the team tick? |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 29, 2019 21:42:46 GMT
Funny that cause Stoke City really don't tick. Or tock 😎 |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Dec 29, 2019 21:47:06 GMT
Hes helped tick this team out of the premier and into a relegation fight in the championship.
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Post by kerouac on Dec 29, 2019 21:50:25 GMT
Hes helped tick this team out of the premier and into a relegation fight in the championship. Really,single handedly? I'm not his greatest fan but he gets far too much abuse on here,at least he puts his head above the parapet and when he doesn't we are completely toothless. |
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2019 21:53:04 GMT
I thought he appeared to be more disciplined since Cousins came into the team but today he was full on headless chicken, pup chasing a balloon mode.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 29, 2019 22:01:06 GMT
I thought he appeared to be more disciplined since Cousins came into the team but today he was full on headless chicken, pup chasing a balloon mode. Did you notice Super Sam ( apart from his woeful effort into the side netting) at all? It would help if he occasionally followed the man he’s supposed to pick up? |
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Post by nonameface on Dec 29, 2019 22:11:37 GMT
Love him or hate him he's the player that makes this team tick.If he's not harrying or pushing or holding in mid field we may as well forget it,when this happens,particularly when he's pushing further up field hes a real menace and we are a different proposition. Today he was fucked you could tell,as he was the second half against Sheff Wednesday.....for fucks sake either start him balls out or at realise when his engine is gone and replace him,its not rocketfuckingscience. He must not have had a kip for about four years then! Seriously we are at a time when he needs to perform, but it's winter and all he needs is a good hibernation! Not a great combo is it? That said, the little hobbits performances have got better since cousins does his positioning work. |
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Post by nigerianstokie on Dec 29, 2019 22:13:52 GMT
Yeah, I probably should have clarified. |
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2019 22:18:44 GMT
I thought he appeared to be more disciplined since Cousins came into the team but today he was full on headless chicken, pup chasing a balloon mode. Did you notice Super Sam ( apart from his woeful effort into the side netting) at all? It would help if he occasionally followed the man he’s supposed to pick up? That half chance into the side netting from a difficult angle on the 'wrong foot' on the wrong side from which he was supposed to be playing? Other than that I noticed Super Sam was head and and shoulders our best player. Now, going back to Allen's contribution today.............. |
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Post by thehoof on Dec 29, 2019 22:38:49 GMT
Did you notice Super Sam ( apart from his woeful effort into the side netting) at all? It would help if he occasionally followed the man he’s supposed to pick up? That half chance into the side netting from a difficult angle on the 'wrong foot' on the wrong side from which he was supposed to be playing? Other than that I noticed Super Sam was head and and shoulders our best player. Now, going back to Allen's contribution today.............. [/quote Really? What exactly did he do? First half non -existent, misplaced passes and total non tracking of ANY midfield runner. Wrong foot- what a joke, how many hours do these guys spend training to be able to kick with one foot? People jump on Butland for a supposed / actual mistake yet outfield players get away with being so talentless they can only use one foot? Jesus!] |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 29, 2019 22:42:20 GMT
Not his fault really. He’s another one who should have been benched.
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Post by kerouac on Dec 29, 2019 22:45:54 GMT
The midfield was piss poor,Allen and Clucas totally anonymous.....I’ll give Allen the benefit of the doubt through working his bollocks off against Wednesday but Clucas has a tendency to go missing when the going gets tough.Needs to put a proper shift in.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 29, 2019 22:50:09 GMT
Clucas was popping up in all areas of the pitch, he was head and and shoulders above every other Stoke player.
That shushingate incident seems to have polarised a lot of views.
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Post by MilanStokie on Dec 29, 2019 23:35:01 GMT
Why is it when a player gets criticised it is now labelled as abuse?
Not once has Allen been abused. He has been strongly criticised for poor performances and rightly so!
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 29, 2019 23:41:56 GMT
Clucas was popping up in all areas of the pitch, he was head and and shoulders above every other Stoke player. That shushingate incident seems to have polarised a lot of views. He does get himself in some very useful areas in the attacking third. Would be nice if he occasionally put a tackle in or got back and mucked in with a bit of defending though. |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 29, 2019 23:46:58 GMT
Why is it when a player gets criticised it is now labelled as abuse? Not once has Allen been abused. He has been strongly criticised for poor performances and rightly so! Here, here!.....It would be so nice if there was more of an effort to make a distinction between words like criticism, abuse and agenda!...or even bother to look up what they actually mean |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 29, 2019 23:49:53 GMT
Clucas was popping up in all areas of the pitch, he was head and and shoulders above every other Stoke player. That shushingate incident seems to have polarised a lot of views. He does get himself in some very useful areas in the attacking third. Would be nice if he occasionally put a tackle in or got back and mucked in with a bit of defending though. I haven't looked up the stats but I feel that he's spent 80% of his Stoke career in 'no-man's land'. He was always seems to be busy there though! |
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Post by wuzza on Dec 29, 2019 23:53:37 GMT
The guy has sweated blood for the cause .. no one will feel it more than he does. The club has fallen apart around him not because of him.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 29, 2019 23:55:57 GMT
The guy has sweated blood for the cause .. no one will feel it more than he does. The club has fallen apart around him not because of him. If it wasn't for Allen we would have really struggled these last few seasons  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2019 23:57:27 GMT
Why is it when a player gets criticised it is now labelled as abuse? Not once has Allen been abused. He has been strongly criticised for poor performances and rightly so! Here, here!.....It would be so nice if there was more of an effort to make a distinction between words like criticism, abuse and agenda!...or even bother to look up what they actually mean Hear Hear! |
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 29, 2019 23:58:39 GMT
Here, here!.....It would be so nice if there was more of an effort to make a distinction between words like criticism, abuse and agenda!...or even bother to look up what they actually mean Hear Hear!  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 30, 2019 0:11:59 GMT
Allen is anything but a holding midfielder. Mainly because holding midfielders hold their position and have high levels of positional discipline which we know Joe lacks.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 30, 2019 0:13:34 GMT
The guy has sweated blood for the cause .. no one will feel it more than he does. The club has fallen apart around him not because of him. If it wasn't for Allen we would have really struggled these last few seasons Be smart all you want about it but yes we would have been even worse. |
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Post by jeycov on Dec 30, 2019 0:23:23 GMT
If it wasn't for Allen we would have really struggled these last few seasons Be smart all you want about it but yes we would have been even worse. Already being linked with Moyes at West Ham I really hope he stays here as part of a settled side |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 30, 2019 0:33:39 GMT
Although I'm no great Allen fan I do hope we can keep him as he is the player alongside Shawcross and McLean who doesn't give up when things go against us. The more players we have like that the more likely we are to save ourselves.
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